Re: ...and a challenge

2019-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/5/19 8:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode wrote: Pi is a reserved work, so I used pie. I haven’t seen this way of producing Pi before, and in both JavaScript and LivceCode it seems to be instantaneous. I think it’s a rewording of 4*(1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9…) the Taylor algorithm is

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On Oct 5, 2019, at 3:59 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: What did we knock out of place to get there? Maybe it's all those new FM people searching for LC information. From what I saw, they are enthusiastic and word gets around. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Given that the rankings are based on search query frequencies and that Google searches seem to be the biggest contributor to the data they use I wonder why they don’t just do a series of Google Trends searches to come up with the relative rankings? Terry... Sent from my iPad > On 6 Oct 2019,

Re: ...and a challenge

2019-10-05 Thread Peter W A Wood via use-livecode
Colin > On 6 Oct 2019, at 11:34, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > Pi is a reserved work, so I used pie. I haven’t seen this way of producing Pi > before, and in both JavaScript and LivceCode it seems to be instantaneous. I > think it’s a rewording of 4*(1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9…) … >

Re: ...and a challenge

2019-10-05 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Does it give the correct answer for pie? I don’t think the n suffix is for floating point. I thought it was for expressing bigint type. > On Oct 5, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Pi is a reserved work, so I used pie. I haven’t seen this way of producing Pi >

Re: ...and a challenge

2019-10-05 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Pi is a reserved work, so I used pie. I haven’t seen this way of producing Pi before, and in both JavaScript and LivceCode it seems to be instantaneous. I think it’s a rewording of 4*(1-1/3+1/5-1/7+1/9…) Anyway, see for yourself on mouseup put the ticks into t put 1.0 into i put 3.0 *

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread JB via use-livecode
Well you know searches could be based on many different factors. If a programming language does things in such a way it needs a lot of different examples to really explain it all and LiveCode allows the user to do it easier then the search results would not be a good judge of how easy it is to

...and a challenge

2019-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/5/19 6:01 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 10/5/19 4:57 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark, I just visited the link Richard provided and it shows the following; Hah! I missed a very important word in that sentence. Nonetheless, here's pi in nine lines of javascript. I

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/5/19 4:57 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark, I just visited the link Richard provided and it shows the following; Hah! I missed a very important word in that sentence. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread JB via use-livecode
Hi Mark, I just visited the link Richard provided and it shows the following; It is important to note that the TIOBE index is not about the best programming language or the language in which most lines of code have been written. The index can be used to check whether your programming skills are

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
William: > where the programming effort to fix the funded bug will come from. That's a very good que... - er, a good example of a reactionary and blasphemous anti-bug question. I luvv buggs and perish the thought of losing even a single precious one. Actually we don't need to presume too

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/5/19 12:27 PM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: Well, well, well . . . out of the smoke a phoenix arises . . . I am in contact "with those who know what they are doing" with a mind to try to set up an "adopt a bug" scheme. But the real b*gger is how on earth to do some sort of triage on

Re: LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 10/5/19 3:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: But this month LC broke new ground: For the first time since I've been tracking TIOBE, LC IS NOW IN THE UPPER 50, ranked as the 49th most popular language: https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ Great news!, I think... note that the

LiveCode now #49 at TIOBE Index!

2019-10-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
As I discussed in the Community keynote at the conference in May, I've been tracking LC's presence on the TIOBE Index for the last two years. Each month TIOBE ranks the world's most popular programming languages by evident use. Only the first 50 are listed with specific rankings, while the

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread JJS via use-livecode
I find this whole idea rather strange, although i understand where it is coming from. But, for example when i buy a car and it has bugs (in the warranty period) it gets fixed for free. Even if the car is out of warranty then some are called back to fix a safety item, also for free. If it

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Well, well, well . . . out of the smoke a phoenix arises . . . I am in contact "with those who know what they are doing" with a mind to try to set up an "adopt a bug" scheme. But the real b*gger is how on earth to do some sort of triage on outstanding bugs and find out which ones: 1. Are

Re: Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks, The donations to fix specific bugs is a notable idea. But what comes to mind is where the programming effort to fix the funded bug will come from. Presumably, you are thinking it will come from mothership staff programmers. I don’t know, but suspect the staff programmers are already

Re: Button scripts

2019-10-05 Thread dunbarx--- via use-livecode
Hi. The "target" tells LC which control received a message. If you had a script in the card, something like: on mouseUp set the bordercolor of the Target to "orange" set the showBorder of the target to "true" --- do somethingend mouseUp You would not only have quotes in places you ought to, but

Give a bug a hug

2019-10-05 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
I have a very humble proposal to move things forward in more positive manner, and entirely eliminate ALL negativity. 1. Start a Society for the Sanctuary and Protection of Pitiful, Even If Not Always Very Endangered, Bugs. If someone even notices a bug and looks at it, some little

Button scripts

2019-10-05 Thread General 2018 via use-livecode
Hi , Have many buttons that do different operations , each one has the following script :- Is the script required for each button and is the use of flush correct ? on mouseUp set the bordercolor of me to orange set showBorder of me to true --- do something get flushEvents("mouseUp") end

Re: Always negative

2019-10-05 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
I am not sure why LC doesn't just play a DONATE (via paypal or something) button on either the https://livecode.org/ page or the https://livecode.org/contribute/ page It's kind of hidden, but in the footer of https://www.joomla.org/contribute-to-joomla.html there is a link to donate

Re: Always negative

2019-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
As organizer you should do it as you think best. What I meant by Indigogo not returning funds is that the donors don't get their money back. That's okay as long as the donors know that LC gets the money even if it isn't enough to fix the target bugs. Otherwise they may come back to you with the

Re: Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-05 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Hi Roland This is the very reason my client and I have opted for the HTML5 LC. Easy language for him to handle, operating in the browser, no need to go through IT departments to have it installed on their systems. This is a seriously MAJOR plus for us. 100% of my clients customers IT depts

Where do we want LiveCode to go? (was "Re: Where LiveCode is Now")

2019-10-05 Thread R.H. via use-livecode
I always appreciate Richards insight and clear expressions. Thank you Richard. What do we really want LiveCode to be? Honestly, I would enjoy LiveCode to replace JavaScript and would put this as CHOICE NUMBER ONE, ONE and ONE. And, of course, I know, this will not work. Let us face the fact

Re: Recommended specs for Windows Development computer.

2019-10-05 Thread R.H. via use-livecode
Windows on dedicated hardware is my choice. Only then you really can say that you tested on Windows. The brand of the hardware (metal) is not important in this case. You are not confined to a closed system as with Apple. I am exlusively using Windows 10 and I am quite happy with it. I do not

Re: Always negative

2019-10-05 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
On 5.10.19 0:08, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Figuring it out is one of the challenges. Yes. I think you'd first need to prioritize the bugs you and others want fixed, which may be the hardest part. I know LC faces that daily, their criteria is to prioritize by severity and/or

Re: LiveCode 9.0.5

2019-10-05 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 6:38 PM Dalton Calford via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > 9.05 is for the foolish people who bought the special indy license for > version 9 Or for those of us creating commercial applications with LiveCode. I know the memory leak fixes in 9.0.5