Re: Android Sleep
That's not right. The phone shouldn't sleep until you've been inactive for the amount of time in settings. Were you inactive for 30 seconds? Just tapping the screen or scrolling should reset the timer. I've got mine set for 5 minutes which seems like a good compromise. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On November 3, 2019 9:38:45 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: I was testing in my app in Android. I kept getting "blank screens" Thinking "Oh No something is wrong!" ha, silly me! I has donea factory reset, and the default is to go to sleep in 30 secs! Sheesh, and here I was thinking in was the app. One assumes, for example that you are a module and there is a LC process going on, that the phone would not sleep. On iOS it won't sleep unless there is no activity.(I think) But somehow on Android it sleeps right in middle, even if a LC process is underway Maybe that is normal android behavior. or is the a way to override the sleep setting and android. Insights? BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Android Sleep
I was testing in my app in Android. I kept getting "blank screens" Thinking "Oh No something is wrong!" ha, silly me! I has donea factory reset, and the default is to go to sleep in 30 secs! Sheesh, and here I was thinking in was the app. One assumes, for example that you are a module and there is a LC process going on, that the phone would not sleep. On iOS it won't sleep unless there is no activity.(I think) But somehow on Android it sleeps right in middle, even if a LC process is underway Maybe that is normal android behavior. or is the a way to override the sleep setting and android. Insights? BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
On 03/11/2019 22:04, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: I'm not sure if in some countries kids learn languages more easily than in others. But, I do think: 1. In English-speaking countries there is an unconscious feeling that learning a foreign language is not 100% serious as "all the world learns English." No, it's surely simpler than that. For an English speaker, a rational analysis shows that the Return on Investment for learning *any* other language is much lower than the RoI for anyone else thinking of learning English. Learning another language is (for most of us) difficult - it takes a lot of time, energy and effort; so it's a legitimate question whether or not it is worth that investment ? Although Mandarin and Hindi are spoken by more people than English, the great majority of those people are very unlikely to be encountered by any English speaker. Spanish has some claim - but outside of South America its numbers are much smaller - and the percentage of those outside South America who don't also speak English is (I suspect - can't find reliable numbers to back it up) probably low. There are many good reasons to learn another language, ranging from the well-proven neurological benefits of multiple languages to the simple common courtesy of doing so - but in straightforward "increase in ability to communicate" I'm unconvinced that an English speaker gains enough to justify the effort. Better to put the time / money into supporting EFL / ESL for others :-) Alex, only partially tongue in cheek. P.S. hmmm does that argument also apply to Livecode ?? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
The problem of learning human languages is not very different from the problem of learning programming languages. TMHO, not knowing JavaScript is comparable to not knowing Spanish (the dominant language in the USA). We all are more or less idiots. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
I'm not sure if in some countries kids learn languages more easily than in others. But, I do think: 1. In English-speaking countries there is an unconscious feeling that learning a foreign language is not 100% serious as "all the world learns English." 2. Many countries where the national language(s) is/are only confined to that country (as in Bulgaria) there is a realisation that any school kid who does not learn at least one more widespread language (such as English) is going to have a very restricted list of choices re jobs (especially internationally) when they are adults. 3. Where foreign languages are taught by immersion in the target language (i.e. instruction is entirely in the L2 without any use of the L1) fluency in the L2 is acquired more rapidly and more completely. It should also be remembered that the younger the pupil, the more plastic and impressionable the brain: after all, do you remember learning your Mother-tongue? No, of course, I thought not. :) 4. If the target language belongs to the same language family as the L1 (i.e. German to English, Hindi to English: all Indo-European languages) acquisition will be far, far easier than between language families (i.e. kiSwahlil to English, French to Chinese). On 3.11.19 23:25, JJS via use-livecode wrote: Funny, the mistake is why one got the error and thus had a blunder. It seems that in Finland due to their school system that they are also pretty good in languages, it also seems they have the highest learning scores in Europe. Surprislngly it seems to be a system created in the USA where it is apperantly not used as was said in the documentary. Childeren first attend school when they are 7 with much less pression. In NL they go to school when they are 4 and kindergarten at age 2 or 3. I can also not tell why in some countries they learn languages easier than in other countries. Op 3-11-2019 om 17:08 schreef Graham Samuel via use-livecode: Thanks to those who replied to my original question. I also liked the OT diversion into learning Dutch. I have Dutch friends and I just don’t know how they successfully learn languages at school when other nationalities (British, French, Spanish etc) seem hopelessly bad at it. As an illustration I, a Brit, have spent a great deal of time in France and I can communicate more or less, but I would not say I can speak French. To say that would mean that I could express myself completely both aurally and in written form, have no trouble reading anything in print or watching anything on tv, and probably should be able to dream in French. Sadly it will just never happen. Back to the grindstone (what’s the equivalent of that in French?). Graham PS In my experience, Germans are also pretty good at languages: years ago I met a polylingual man in Munich who told me that at his school, the English master made them discuss the difference between a blunder, and error and a mistake! On 2 Nov 2019, at 08:27, JJS via use-livecode wrote: Yes we watch it too, he is famous. I love when his son tries to speak dutch haha. Sometimes his brother is in the show, then you can hear some Drents which is different from normal dutch but not as hard as Fries that's a language on it's own. Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 1 november 2019 23:34:08 CET: Dr. Pol is Dutch. I love that show. Bob S On Nov 1, 2019, at 15:31 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to learn Dutch. But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or English instead of Dutch. ;) Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
Funny, the mistake is why one got the error and thus had a blunder. It seems that in Finland due to their school system that they are also pretty good in languages, it also seems they have the highest learning scores in Europe. Surprislngly it seems to be a system created in the USA where it is apperantly not used as was said in the documentary. Childeren first attend school when they are 7 with much less pression. In NL they go to school when they are 4 and kindergarten at age 2 or 3. I can also not tell why in some countries they learn languages easier than in other countries. Op 3-11-2019 om 17:08 schreef Graham Samuel via use-livecode: Thanks to those who replied to my original question. I also liked the OT diversion into learning Dutch. I have Dutch friends and I just don’t know how they successfully learn languages at school when other nationalities (British, French, Spanish etc) seem hopelessly bad at it. As an illustration I, a Brit, have spent a great deal of time in France and I can communicate more or less, but I would not say I can speak French. To say that would mean that I could express myself completely both aurally and in written form, have no trouble reading anything in print or watching anything on tv, and probably should be able to dream in French. Sadly it will just never happen. Back to the grindstone (what’s the equivalent of that in French?). Graham PS In my experience, Germans are also pretty good at languages: years ago I met a polylingual man in Munich who told me that at his school, the English master made them discuss the difference between a blunder, and error and a mistake! On 2 Nov 2019, at 08:27, JJS via use-livecode wrote: Yes we watch it too, he is famous. I love when his son tries to speak dutch haha. Sometimes his brother is in the show, then you can hear some Drents which is different from normal dutch but not as hard as Fries that's a language on it's own. Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 1 november 2019 23:34:08 CET: Dr. Pol is Dutch. I love that show. Bob S On Nov 1, 2019, at 15:31 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to learn Dutch. But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or English instead of Dutch. ;) Matthias Rebbe free tools for Livecoders: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from Scratch
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:10 AM, Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > > 1. It uses a higher order of language to issue instructions than the level at > which the learners > who are supposed to benefit from that software are supposed to be at. > > 2. It features screens that are cluttered with "eye-candy" to such an extent > that young learners cannot see > "the wood for the trees" (Thanks, Julian Pyttches - History teacher of mine > (1976-1978)). Richmond, Well said! I find both of these faults regularly interfering with commercial instruction packages… and not just electronic delivery. — Scott Morrow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows, Underlines and Printing
Craig, Yes, it's working as expected on a Mac. Seems to be only an issue on Windows. -Dan On 11/3/19, 7:11 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of dunbarx--- via use-livecode" wrote: Hi. I don't suppose you have tested on a Mac? If not, I will when I get to my office tomorrow. Craig -Original Message- From: Dan Friedman via use-livecode To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 1:04 pm Subject: Windows, Underlines and Printing Greeting! I have a field on a stack. In that field is some text and one word is underlined. If I print the card on a windows computer, the underline isn't printed. If I print the card to PDF, the underline is printed. I tried LC 9.0.4 Indy, 9.5.0 Business and 9.5.1 rc1 Business. Can anyone confirm? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
Thanks to those who replied to my original question. I also liked the OT diversion into learning Dutch. I have Dutch friends and I just don’t know how they successfully learn languages at school when other nationalities (British, French, Spanish etc) seem hopelessly bad at it. As an illustration I, a Brit, have spent a great deal of time in France and I can communicate more or less, but I would not say I can speak French. To say that would mean that I could express myself completely both aurally and in written form, have no trouble reading anything in print or watching anything on tv, and probably should be able to dream in French. Sadly it will just never happen. Back to the grindstone (what’s the equivalent of that in French?). Graham PS In my experience, Germans are also pretty good at languages: years ago I met a polylingual man in Munich who told me that at his school, the English master made them discuss the difference between a blunder, and error and a mistake! > On 2 Nov 2019, at 08:27, JJS via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes we watch it too, he is famous. I love when his son tries to speak dutch > haha. Sometimes his brother is in the show, then you can hear some Drents > which is different from normal dutch but not as hard as Fries that's a > language on it's own. > > Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 1 > november 2019 23:34:08 CET: >> Dr. Pol is Dutch. I love that show. >> >> Bob S >> >> >>> On Nov 1, 2019, at 15:31 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode >> wrote: >>> >>> we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously >> tried to learn Dutch. >>> But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German >> or English instead of Dutch. ;) >>> >>> Matthias Rebbe >>> >>> free tools for Livecoders: >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > -- > Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows, Underlines and Printing
Hi. I don't suppose you have tested on a Mac? If not, I will when I get to my office tomorrow. Craig -Original Message- From: Dan Friedman via use-livecode To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dan Friedman Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2019 1:04 pm Subject: Windows, Underlines and Printing Greeting! I have a field on a stack. In that field is some text and one word is underlined. If I print the card on a windows computer, the underline isn't printed. If I print the card to PDF, the underline is printed. I tried LC 9.0.4 Indy, 9.5.0 Business and 9.5.1 rc1 Business. Can anyone confirm? -Dan ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Learning from Scratch
Personally I'd far rather learn from LiveCode and NOT "Scratch" (awfully sorry but that was just too juicy to pass up on!) I posted something that is really goofy on the Forums: basically what I do with LiveCode when I'm not being a nutty fruitcake with Sanskrit, but actually making money shoe-horning English into young minds. When I was about 7 years old (that's 50 years ago: spooky when I think of where all that time has gone) I went to French lessons and all we had was a monochrome book with small line drawings, and, oddly enough we were satisfied with that and we learnt French from Monsieur Derek whose only other piece of equipment was a blackboard and bits of coloured chalk: and he did a d*mn good job too. Nowadays, young "people" have been "poisoned" by Jobs and his Technicolor Raincoat and so on. So, as kids seem to absorb what my generation absorbed from plain paper from computer screens that is the way we have to go faute de mieux (Thanks, Derek Swift - French teacher of mine (1969-1972)). However (I want "However" chiselled on my gravestone just below "But"), all the commercial EFL software that comes strapped to the back of EFL books has these faults: 1. It uses a higher order of language to issue instructions than the level at which the learners who are supposed to benefit from that software are supposed to be at. 2. It features screens that are cluttered with "eye-candy" to such an extent that young learners cannot see "the wood for the trees" (Thanks, Julian Pyttches - History teacher of mine (1976-1978)). I go for the minimalist, targetted approach. LiveCode lends itself very well indeed to rapid elementary content reinforcement and delivery software; something that may be being overlooked. A teacher should be able to go from "Zero to Reasonably Competent" with this sort of thing in a matter of about a week. You can find my post here: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=33287=184914#p184908 and download the example stack (28 MB!) here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7cd4c8gtz2x5rf/Boys%20and%20Girls.livecode.zip?dl=0 Oh, and, by-ther-way: Please feel free to use that stack, hack it to bits, and rip off any ideas you find useful there. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
