Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I would not expect a software company to maintain any sort of backwards compatibility unless they could see any _significant financial advantage_ in that. About a year ago someone waved $100 at me for a version of my Devawriter Pro that would run on Mac OS 10.6 32-bit, and as it took me all of

Re: Progressive Web App (PWA)

2020-02-18 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Does anyone have a reply to Ingar’s original question? > On Feb 18, 2020, at 6:16 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Aren't all discussions political? ;-) > > Bob S > > >> On Feb 16, 2020, at 13:33 , doc hawk via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> On Feb 16, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Paul

Re: player bug

2020-02-18 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
And I’ll add that the bug truly manifests itself when the file is non-existent on your local machine, if that makes any sense! If you’re trying to read a non-existent file from a remote server, there seems to be slow downs while the file is being requested, but not the non-responsiveness of

Re: Does any one know what Player "intervals" actually are?

2020-02-18 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Paul I was curious about your original question so tried to do a search and of course wanted to find search terms to define what an interval is. As Curry says it is likely each media type has a different definition. I did find a retired QuickTime document for the MovieToolbox that explains

Re: player bug

2020-02-18 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
I’ve experienced this for some time now. I haven’t reported it, though. Peter > On Feb 18, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Neville via use-livecode > wrote: > > Has this been reported already? > > if I try to play a non-existent audio file in the player object (LC 9.5.1 on > Mac) LC stop responding to

LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Charles Szasz via use-livecode
Mark, I also been using AppWrapper. It made notarizing Mac programs fairly easy to do once you set up app specific passwords and two step authentication in addition to certificates. Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Or a bad infection for that matter. > On Feb 18, 2020, at 15:39 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > wrote: > > It's much more likely for someone to get a bad impression from unlucky > hands-on experience with the thing itself... Bob S ___

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Craig: > WTF has lost most of its bite due to simple continued usage Then, to indulge your premise, which I agree is the trend in a great many social and media circles (but not all) consider this: So WTF is the continued point of using WTF? If it no longer has enough shock value to raise

player bug

2020-02-18 Thread Neville via use-livecode
Has this been reported already? if I try to play a non-existent audio file in the player object (LC 9.5.1 on Mac) LC stop responding to events - no menus or input work except for moving windows ; not exactly a hang, since the Activity Monitor says LiveCode is still working. Force Quit is the

Re: Progressive Web App (PWA)

2020-02-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Aren't all discussions political? ;-) Bob S > On Feb 16, 2020, at 13:33 , doc hawk via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2020, at 5:15 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: >> >> "A progressive web application is a type of application software delivered >> through the web, built

Re: Invalid Image File / Original Image Size

2020-02-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Another one for the Utility behavior! :-) Bob S > On Feb 17, 2020, at 13:57 , Phil Davis via use-livecode > wrote: > > function isSupportedImage pPath > # Allow JPG, PNG and GIF images. > > put byte 1 to 12 of url ("binfile:" & pPath) into tHeader > switch > case "JFIF"

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suppose one could also make the counter argument that software companies do not have oodles of money laying around to maintain endless backwards compatibility with older operating systems. Something has to give. Bob S > On Feb 17, 2020, at 12:40 , Richmond via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: Does any one know what Player "intervals" actually are?

2020-02-18 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
In your own case (Paul) luckily there is probably very little cause for concern - because your files have other context available, allowing us to either convert/confirm, or else entirely replace the most important interval values. And I don't consider this difficult to tame sufficiently for

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Not sure but the resulting text looks like this has been OCRd. We had a similar issue with this at a customer and I noticed that OCR seems to work best on greyscale 300dpi. It just depends on the engine. Bob S > On Feb 18, 2020, at 10:45 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > wrote: > > >

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread dunbarx--- via use-livecode
@Curry, mainly. The easy one. WTF has lost most of its bite due to simple continued usage. As Lenny Bruce noted 60 years ago, if you use a bad word often enough, it loses its badness. The hard one. Several threads on the forum have bemoaned what is labeled an overarching bug issue in LC. There

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
> Not to forget SpreadLib. ;) Since you mention it, SpreadLib is not forgotten at all! Proud that SpreadLib was first, and is best, of its type. SpreadOut, especially, has come a long way since last public release. Looking forward very much to that update. Most addons have progressed

Re: Does any one know what Player "intervals" actually are?

2020-02-18 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Hi Martin, Thanks for you post/reply. As we are updating our application, all times are being stored in seconds (real number) and converted to and from intervals as needed. Just like you in your application. The old version of our application stored data in user document files. In these

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Am 18.02.2020 um 19:40 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode > : > > Hi friends, > > I know that copying text form a PDF file may result in unexspected results, > but this is really ridicoulous!? > > I created a PDF from LC (selected "Save as PDF" in the macOS Print dialog) > and when I

Re: LC Server - HTTP response code 500: permission denied error

2020-02-18 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Ralf Thanks for your reply Ralf. Based on your comments I tried a number of tests. I tried an .lc file with no calls to RevIgniter. /home/myapp/sites/api.myapp.com/mylctest.lc I get the same error as when my application calls the api using RevIgniter. So that means it is an issue with

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Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
> On Feb 18, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Charles Szasz via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richard, > > I have been a member of the LC community since roughly 2003. I have not seen > the notes on LC 9.6.0 DP2. My main focus has been on updating my apps to 64 > bit Mac desktop apps and conquering

Re: Does any one know what Player "intervals" actually are?

2020-02-18 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Paul, I have had to deal with differing player intervals or timeScales in my application which I develop on the Mac working with the player in LC. It uses Video files only. I first realized this was a problem when I would create a project file that annotates a video then later compress the

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 18.02.2020 um 19:53 schrieb Klaus major-k via use-livecode > : > > >> Am 18.02.2020 um 19:45 schrieb Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode >> : >> >> That looks like a perfectly valid WTF file. > > very funny, almost as funny as "FieldTrip: fully paid, but still in beta > after 7 (SEVEN)

Re: Translate metadata to field content

2020-02-18 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2020-02-18 19:14, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for the reply guys, both Hermann and Mark, and Bernd who sent me materials offline. I'll be going over these suggestions to see what works best. The file content can be very long especially when separated into runs (more than

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 2/18/20 10:40 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Any insights very appreciated! Wieder came through with no problem. What more could you possibly ask for? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Translate metadata to field content

2020-02-18 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Thanks for the reply guys, both Hermann and Mark, and Bernd who sent me materials offline. I'll be going over these suggestions to see what works best. The file content can be very long especially when separated into runs (more than 200,000 runs for an average file) so speed will matter since

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Touche! :) Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
The prices for ESU double each year... https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-much-will-staying-patched-on-windows-7-cost-you-heres-the-price-list/ - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 18.02.2020 um 18:06 schrieb Mark Talluto via use-livecode > : > >> On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:08

Re: LC Server - HTTP response code 500: permission denied error

2020-02-18 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Hi Martin, don’t know if the issue is somehow related to the new server environment as I am not familiar with LiteSpeed Web Server. The permissions (644) for the files in drivers and externals should be OK (just check that the permissions for these folders are set to 755). Did you try to load a

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> Am 18.02.2020 um 19:45 schrieb Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > : > > That looks like a perfectly valid WTF file. very funny, almost as funny as "FieldTrip: fully paid, but still in beta after 7 (SEVEN) years"! 8-) Yes, I know I am just too impatient... > Best wishes, > > Curry

Re: text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
That looks like a perfectly valid WTF file. Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list

text copied form LC generated PDF, WTF?

2020-02-18 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi friends, I know that copying text form a PDF file may result in unexspected results, but this is really ridicoulous!? I created a PDF from LC (selected "Save as PDF" in the macOS Print dialog) and when I copy some text and past it into TextEdit, this is what i get:

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:07 AM Mark Talluto via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Here is a fun sidenote. Windows 7 has also lost support from Microsoft as > of Jan 14, 2020. Microsoft provides a program called Extended Security > Updates. > > This program buys companies

LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Charles Szasz via use-livecode
Richard, I have been a member of the LC community since roughly 2003. I have not seen the notes on LC 9.6.0 DP2. My main focus has been on updating my apps to 64 bit Mac desktop apps and conquering notarizing my apps. I was not concern and not surprised about Windows XP support. I will end

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
> On Feb 18, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richmond wrote: >> "The OP asked about using the latest version of LiveCode on an OS that was >> EOL'd many years ago." >> And I replied by suggesting a version of LiveCode that would produce >> standalones that would

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: "The OP asked about using the latest version of LiveCode on an OS that was EOL'd many years ago." And I replied by suggesting a version of LiveCode that would produce standalones that would work on that OS. Do you have any idea how long Charles has been a member of this

LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Charles Szasz via use-livecode
Richard, Thanks for your reply regarding Windows XP. Currently I use LC 6.1.3 to build apps for Windows XP. So this is not a problem. I am using LC 9.6.0 to build Mac 64 bit desktop apps. I have not yet tried building Windows 64 bit apps for the other Windows variants. Sent from my iPad

Does any one know what Player "intervals" actually are?

2020-02-18 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
Or even more specifically, does any one know what player object "intervals" (the values for currentTime, startTime, endTime, timeScale, and duration properties of a player) actually are? Are they frames? Something else? And does anyone know why they vary by Media Framework (i.e Quicktime vs

Re: Translate metadata to field content

2020-02-18 Thread hh via use-livecode
> JLG wrote: > I'm still working on htmltext in a field. There are anchors > that indicate positions elsewhere in the file. A browser will > automatically find and scroll to the right place in the text. > I need to reproduce that. Besides using style runs you could try the following simple method

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
"The OP asked about using the latest version of LiveCode on an OS that was EOL'd many years ago." And I replied by suggesting a version of LiveCode that would produce standalones that would work on that OS. That is probably all the chap needed to know. Richmond. On 18.02.20 10:34, Richard

Re: LC 9.6.0 DP2

2020-02-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: Banging on about endless upgrades is pretty pointless because, unless one lives in a cave, one already knows about that. What might be better is to offer the OP a practical solution to their problem. Enlighten us: what do you feel constitutes as "practical solution" to