Richard wrote
> Bob Sneidar wrote:
>
>> In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation,
>> a VMWARE VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a
>> workstation and my Mac. As I am saving the stack, I am watching the
>> folder the stack is in. I see the tilde
Andre Garzia wrote:
> I just reinstalled LC and Devolution here but every time I try opening
> any of the panes, it does an audible chime. Trying to click any of the
> tabs in the first pane (the one with about, check for updates, etc)
> just sounds the chime and doesn't change anything. It
Hi Folks,
I just reinstalled LC and Devolution here but every time I try opening any
of the panes, it does an audible chime. Trying to click any of the tabs in
the first pane (the one with about, check for updates, etc) just sounds the
chime and doesn't change anything. It feels like there is a
Mark has identified some anomalies and is presently working on it.
Bob S
On Apr 6, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
I'm also experiencing some oddities with GLX2 4.0.1 here.
I've uploaded a screenshot to:
I'm also experiencing some oddities with GLX2 4.0.1 here.
I've uploaded a screenshot to:
http://andregarzia.com/img/shots/glx2/glx2-strange.png
* The GLX2 bar is misplaced and even though it moves when I move the main
LC menu, it moves to the wrong location.
* The menubar in the GLX2 script
Hi, everybody!
I apologize for the drive-by email.
And I miss everybody on the list. Been busy all that.
I am a strong believer in contact tracing as an implortant part of COVID-19
containment.
There are several teams out there working on voluntary privacy-protecting
contact tracing apps to
Hi Jacque,
Scott made many of the same good points as you did - so I won't
replicate my replies here.
On 06/04/2020 05:20, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On April 5, 2020 8:39:15 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
wrote:
1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally
Thanks for these links!
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> On Apr 6, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Devin Asay
That was my experience too… until LC added native support for other Android
processors. Now I find the Android emulator to be very usable!
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I suspect the repeated LC SE reversion is the same issue as prefs not sticking.
Bob S
On Apr 6, 2020, at 1:49 PM, Bob Sneidar
mailto:bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com>> wrote:
seeing some of the same things. There was an issue where the GLX2 menu under
certain conditions would become the custom
seeing some of the same things. There was an issue where the GLX2 menu under
certain conditions would become the custom menu of the open GLX2 SE, and the
system menu would revert back to the default. If the GLX2 menu becomes the
System Menu you cannot access the default System Manu at all.
regard 3. I meant
...changing the size manually in AN editor (while LC is not running)
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Matthias Rebbe
Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> Am 06.04.2020 um 22:38 schrieb matthias rebbe via use-livecode
> :
>
> Mark,
> where do you want feedback? I place it here for now.
>
>
> Tested
Mark,
where do you want feedback? I place it here for now.
Tested now with LC 9.5.1, 9.6.0DP3 on Mac OS 10.14.6 with two displays.
1. the GLX2 bar is not under the LC menubar. It´s placed on the right of the
screen
see https://livecode.dermattes.de/screenshots/glx2_bar.png
And it seems
Normally I wouldn’t, but in the past for one reason or another I turned off
GLX2 to get to the script editor, and somewhere in the process of turning it
off and on, a lot of new coding disappeared. That was long ago though, and I
may not even be looking at the same problem. It seems that once
On 4/6/20 12:36 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
This may be fixed in 4.0.1. I’ll check.
OK I verified that if I make a change in GLX2, then switch to the Native SE, I
see the change. If however I make a change in the Native SE, then switch to
GLX2, it does NOT reflect the change.
If
I ALWAYS want that. Nevertheless, have you tried select nothing in after
OpenCard?
Bob S
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:39 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go to
a card,
This may be fixed in 4.0.1. I’ll check.
OK I verified that if I make a change in GLX2, then switch to the Native SE, I
see the change. If however I make a change in the Native SE, then switch to
GLX2, it does NOT reflect the change.
If however I SAVE the stack, THEN GLX2 sees the code change.
Ack! Bernd just hipped me to the fact that I uploaded the wrong version.
It *should* identify itself as version 4.0.1 if you've got the right
one. If not, download it again - I *think* I've got the right one
uploaded to bitbucket now.
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>
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> On 4/6/20 11:49 AM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Quick question: I am interested in using the ‘Chalkboard Motiff’. When I
>> select it I do not see a change in the look. Same when I close the prefs.
>>
Both. The Windows lag is present on the LAN and Internet. The Internet does not
seem to be introducing any lag, or so little it’s not detectable.
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Phil Davis via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
Hi Bob,
I'm realizing now that your system
On 4/6/20 11:49 AM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode wrote:
Quick question: I am interested in using the ‘Chalkboard Motiff’. When I select
it I do not see a change in the look. Same when I close the prefs. What am I
missing?
The same is true for changing the font size. I changed the font to
Thanks for the example, Bob. Yes, it does seem very conclusive.
Do you know if there's an existing bug report for this?
I've seen a few other Win-specific reports, but the ones I recall were
mostly about file I/O, and I don't recall one for network I/O.
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J. Landman Gay wrote:
> I want a property or setting that lets me turn off this default
> behavior. It's annoying and disruptive, and has been there since
> day one.
I lost count of how many times I've seen that come up in the forums over
the years.
What you propose seems reasonable and
Whoa! Quite a bit smaller! I’ll check it out. Really excited! I loved GLX2 but
the code loss on OS X when switching GLX2 on and off was killing me! I will
back things up and check for that.
Bob S
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Hi Bob,
I'm realizing now that your system connects client and server via the
internet. Mine connects them via LAN. Big security difference!
In another system I wrote that connects client & server over the
internet, the server does this upon receiving a request:
does a 'wait flag' (temp
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:39 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
wrote:
>
> This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go
> to a card, particularly on mobile. And god forbid the first field is a list
> field, where the first line is hilited whenever the stack resumes
Hi Richard.
Just to be absolutely certain I excluded any other factors, I tested retrieving
data from mySQL from a Mac and from a PC using only the Message Box (no UI).
Since I am out of the office, I can only test my Mac remotely. I can however
remote into the mySQL server at work which is
On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:08 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode
wrote:
>
> I posted this to the web forum last night and figured I should put it in the
> list as well... so here's something to help with working in isolation.
Nice work Mark. I am giving it a try right now. I am interested in to
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I was a big believer that SSL was never going to be compromised… until
> it was. The retooling of industry security standards over the last 6
> years or so has taught me the opposite: NEVER rely on out of the box
> security if you can help it.
After acknowledging how bugs
This makes me crazy. I almost never want the first field selected when I go to a card,
particularly on mobile. And god forbid the first field is a list field, where the first line is
hilited whenever the stack resumes focus, even if the hilitedline was 0.
The workaround is tedious: on
When a desktop theme manager isn't available, LC reverts to its built-in
emulated Motif, hence the odd appearance (which is awesome if you love
NeXT, and horribly confusing to literally every newcomer if they're not
ancient enough to remember the old Unix UI and know the intricacies of
Skip Kimpel wrote:
> Richard,
>
> It took me two attempts at the Android Studio install. I realized
> during the first attempt that I had cut it short before it had
> finished everything. After re-installing, it worked just fine.
Thank you, Skip (and good to see you back on this list, BTW).
Colin Holgate wrote:
> You may have read the path where tools are as being where you need to
> point LiveCode to. Point LiveCode to ~/Library/Android/SDK, and not
> ~/Library/Android/SDK/Tools
Thank you, Colin. ~/Android/SDK/ is where I pointed it (Ubuntu 18.04).
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Fourth
I posted this to the web forum last night and figured I should put it in
the list as well... so here's something to help with working in isolation.
Whew! It's been a long time since I've updated this.
I really thought I had made my peace with the built-in script editor,
but I recently had to
Richard,
It took me two attempts at the Android Studio install. I realized during
the first attempt that I had cut it short before it had finished
everything. After re-installing, it worked just fine.
SKIP
On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:47 PM Colin Holgate via use-livecode <
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> Your application writing data to disk is a very different thing from
>> Windows Desktop Explorer automatically refreshing a directory view.
>
> Control doesn’t return to the application until the tilde version goes
>
On 4/6/20 10:12 AM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote:
But, afaik, it's not just scrolling fields; aren't there also issues with keyboard input
requiring you to scroll / move the field to remain visible,
That was fixed recently with mobileSetKeyboardDisplay.
Also, besides mouse events
I had been wondering when the third-class status of mobile platforms in the LC
world, particularly in relation to scrolling fields and groups, would crop up
here.
Some time ago I looked at converting an iOS project to LC, and was appalled at
the crude 1984-style appearance of scroll bars. I
You may have read the path where tools are as being where you need to point
LiveCode to. Point LiveCode to ~/Library/Android/SDK, and not
~/Library/Android/SDK/Tools
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Colin Holgate wrote:
>
> > On Apr 6, 2020, at
You are testing low level file operations. I am testing the saving of a
Livecode stack. I don’t think this test applies.
Bob S
On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
on mouseUp
put the long seconds into t
write "somedata"
Control doesn’t return to the application until the tilde version goes away.
On Apr 6, 2020, at 9:28 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
Your application writing data to disk is a very different thing from Windows
Desktop Explorer automatically
I was a big believer that SSL was never going to be compromised… until it was.
The retooling of industry security standards over the last 6 years or so has
taught me the opposite: NEVER rely on out of the box security if you can help
it.
Asking a web server to get data and return it introduces
Colin Holgate wrote:
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>
>> I'm setting up a new machine for Android development.
>>
>> Where is the one-page list of steps on the livecode.com site that
>> reliably guides a new user through this for all supported platforms
>> (Mac, Win,
Alex Tweedly wrote:
> On 06/04/2020 03:55, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately
>>> (e.g. scrolling fields).
>> I feel this is overly harsh. Livecode fields (and the creation of
>> native UIText fields) do work on mobile. I think
That link does work, and helps to solve the problem. The current Android Studio
comes with Android 10 installed, and LiveCode needs Android 9.
> On Apr 6, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> I'm setting up a new machine for Android development.
>
> Where is the
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation,
> a VMWARE VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a
> workstation and my Mac. As I am saving the stack, I am watching the
> folder the stack is in. I see the tilde version pop up and go away.
On Apr 5, 2020, at 11:18 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
wrote:
>
> I don’t think LC accepts multiple statement transactions at all, does it?
I’d be dead int the water if it didn’t. ;)
I’m flat out *dependent* on these—opening a debtor in my software requires
several hundred entries to be
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Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I’m curious how this client server method handles multiple
> simultaneous connections? I had the idea of having a listener agent
> spawn an SQL Agent stack the first time a client connected, that would
> then listen on a random port. The listener agent would return the
>
Bob Sneidar wrote:
> I’m curious though if a library could be created so that a handler for
> a mobile message (let’s say a touch message) could “translate” into a
> desktop message? In this way, the app on the mobile would send a
> mouseUp message to the target.
Why not? Most developers I
I'm setting up a new machine for Android development.
Where is the one-page list of steps on the livecode.com site that
reliably guides a new user through this for all supported platforms
(Mac, Win, Linux)?
This one fails:
Touch messages already send duplicate mouse messages. In fact, unless you
need two-finger zooming, you don't need touch handlers at all. I only use
standard mouse handlers generally because they wotk on both mobile and desktop.
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Me too!
On 6 Apr 2020, 11:40 +0100, Andre Garzia via use-livecode
, wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I missed the meeting, is there a recording available?
>
> Best
> A.
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Hi Richard.
In review, I tested saving stacks on a standalone Windows Workstation, a VMWARE
VM on a very robust server host, a Parallels VM on a workstation and my Mac. As
I am saving the stack, I am watching the folder the stack is in. I see the
tilde version pop up and go away. On Mac it’s
On 06/04/2020 03:55, scott--- via use-livecode wrote:
1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately (e.g. scrolling
fields).
I feel this is overly harsh. Livecode fields (and the creation of native UIText
fields) do work on mobile. I think the issue is that the use of some
I think that would kill the Apple Desktop OS.
Bob S
On Apr 6, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
Apple is absolutely working towards iOS and macOS being highly similar.
However, if you're hoping that brings increased simplicity of
There’s the rub I think. For RunRev (is the company still called that?) to make
what mobile objects they can universal, and leave the others as is would then
create a situation where developers would have to know what controls were
universal, and which were Mobile/Desktop only. It just adds
Graham,
I’ve just been through this gauntlet with my students. I provided some links
and lessons for them at http://livecode.byu.edu/mobile/test-deploy-links.php. I
found the process for setting up Android a little fraught with pitfalls, so I
created an expanded instruction sheet for Android
Hi Phil. Thanks for the reply.
I’m curious how this client server method handles multiple simultaneous
connections? I had the idea of having a listener agent spawn an SQL Agent stack
the first time a client connected, that would then listen on a random port. The
listener agent would return the
On 4/5/2020 10:48 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote:
The question is why don’t they make them compatible? Is their some
kind of FCC regulation that prevents Apple from using phone apps on
the desktop? Back in the HyperCard days there was hyperDialer and
I really liked it a lot but I think the
Hi Folks,
I missed the meeting, is there a recording available?
Best
A.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 11:31, Heather Laine via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> Dear list folks,
>
> I have now scheduled our first zoom meeting, open to anyone who wishes to
> discuss LiveCode, share
Hi Bob,
I created a client-server business system for a client some years ago.
It too uses data encryption. What I did on the server side was prep the
data for net transfer (base64Encode it as the final prep step, I think),
then transfer length(data) & CR & data.
On the client side, the app
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