Re: livecode in terminal? (linux)

2020-08-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 8/10/20 7:31 PM, Eric A. Engle via use-livecode wrote:

is there any way to invoke the livecode engine from the terminal in linux?


suppose e.g. i wanted to run "put 7" or "put 3 + 2" from xterm or such. Is that 
possible? If so, how?

Or e.g. running a stack or script from the terminal? If so, how?


Yep. I use the server build that way. Who needs a GUI?
Just invoke it from the command line, i.e.

./livecode-community-server test.lc

where test.lc is



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livecode in terminal? (linux)

2020-08-10 Thread Eric A. Engle via use-livecode
is there any way to invoke the livecode engine from the terminal in linux?


suppose e.g. i wanted to run "put 7" or "put 3 + 2" from xterm or such. Is that 
possible? If so, how?

Or e.g. running a stack or script from the terminal? If so, how?

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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

Auto-complete made me do it.

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On August 10, 2020 5:35:40 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 8/10/20 2:43 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

I forgot we had a lawyer in our midst. So is Apple a monopoly in the
legal sense?


Ha! You used "legal" and "sense" in the same sentence!

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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Feeling old. I should have bought the program to know the players.
Good thing I’m not named Terry!

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:45 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jerry jesticulated,
> 
> 
>> Are you sure? The W12 used in some Bentleys is made by VW, and many years of 
>> Phantoms used a V12 of the proper displacement. Of course they don’t talk 
>> about mundane stuff like that! 
> 
> But VW now makes “Bentley", while “Rolls” is now a BMW brand.
> 
> In either case, you don’t get the real thing, and the Rolls Royce 8 cylinder 
> engine is now a bit of history . . .
> 
> (And for another odd quirk, Rolls once licensed the GM Turbo 400 transmission 
> for use n both, but made “improvements” in it.  That worked "so well” that 
> within a couple of years they instead just bought them from GM . . .)
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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread JB via use-livecode
Maybe she has never been to court.

JB

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 8/10/20 2:43 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>> I forgot we had a lawyer in our midst. So is Apple a monopoly in the legal 
>> sense?
> 
> Ha! You used "legal" and "sense" in the same sentence!
> 
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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 8/10/20 2:43 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
I forgot we had a lawyer in our midst. So is Apple a monopoly in the 
legal sense?


Ha! You used "legal" and "sense" in the same sentence!

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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread JB via use-livecode
If you sell chocolate chip cookies and the majority of the people buy your
cookies, does that make you a monopoly?

If Ford designs a new car should they be forced to make companies like
Chevy be able to use Chevy parts on the Ford car?

Anyone can make cookies, cars, computers and mobile devices if they have
the desire and money.  Apple does not prevent you or others from making
software or computers.

My personal thought about the 30% fee Apple charges to sell your software
is that it’s a really good deal.  Apple list your product allowing many millions
of people to see and buy it.  They handle all the global sales and taxes plus
provide a way to download it.  If your software is making a lot of money part
of the money you are paying Apple would have been added in taxes due to
you making more profit.  If you have an app that many schools or other types
of business want to buy Apple can make that deal better than most small
developers.  To me that seems cheap compared to the increased sales that
Apple can make with large companies.  But each developer has their own
reasons for using Apple or not.

JB


> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:45 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I forgot we had a lawyer in our midst. So is Apple a monopoly in the legal 
> sense?
> 
> 
>> On 8/10/20 3:45 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:
>> Jerry jesticulated,
>>> Are you sure? The W12 used in some Bentleys is made by VW, and many years 
>>> of Phantoms used a V12 of the proper displacement. Of course they don’t 
>>> talk about mundane stuff like that! 
>> But VW now makes “Bentley", while “Rolls” is now a BMW brand.
>> In either case, you don’t get the real thing, and the Rolls Royce 8 cylinder 
>> engine is now a bit of history . . .
>> (And for another odd quirk, Rolls once licensed the GM Turbo 400 
>> transmission for use n both, but made “improvements” in it.  That worked "so 
>> well” that within a couple of years they instead just bought them from GM . 
>> . .)
> 
> 
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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

I forgot we had a lawyer in our midst. So is Apple a monopoly in the legal 
sense?


On 8/10/20 3:45 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote:


Jerry jesticulated,



Are you sure? The W12 used in some Bentleys is made by VW, and many years of Phantoms 
used a V12 of the proper displacement. Of course they don’t talk about mundane stuff 
like that! 


But VW now makes “Bentley", while “Rolls” is now a BMW brand.

In either case, you don’t get the real thing, and the Rolls Royce 8 cylinder 
engine is now a bit of history . . .

(And for another odd quirk, Rolls once licensed the GM Turbo 400 transmission for 
use n both, but made “improvements” in it.  That worked "so well” that within a 
couple of years they instead just bought them from GM . . .)



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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode

Jerry jesticulated,


> Are you sure? The W12 used in some Bentleys is made by VW, and many years of 
> Phantoms used a V12 of the proper displacement. Of course they don’t talk 
> about mundane stuff like that! 

But VW now makes “Bentley", while “Rolls” is now a BMW brand.

In either case, you don’t get the real thing, and the Rolls Royce 8 cylinder 
engine is now a bit of history . . .

(And for another odd quirk, Rolls once licensed the GM Turbo 400 transmission 
for use n both, but made “improvements” in it.  That worked "so well” that 
within a couple of years they instead just bought them from GM . . .)
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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Are you sure? The W12 used in some Bentleys is made by VW, and many years of 
Phantoms used a V12 of the proper displacement. Of course they don’t talk about 
mundane stuff like that! 
.Jerry

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like my Rolls Royce Phantom, but it's so unfair of Rolls Royce not to offer 
> a Phantom with an engine from Volkswagen! ;)


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Re: ProtonMail vs Apple

2020-08-10 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
Yes, Apple's approach is very proprietary. But it is simply not monopolistic. 
Apple does not have a monopoly on smartphones or smartphone OSes.
What they do have is a very strict proprietary control of their products. Some 
argue an overly strict control of their products.

I like my Rolls Royce Phantom, but it's so unfair of Rolls Royce not to offer a 
Phantom with an engine from Volkswagen! ;)

As a consumer or developer if one doesn't like Apple's products and policies 
simply choose to buy and develop elsewhere. If enough folks do likewise, Apple 
will soon change as sales plummet. They did this back in the 90s when they were 
hanging by the thinnest thread and allowed other vendors to sell Mac-compatible 
hardware.

And yes, our laws may indeed need to be adapted for 21st century realities.

I'm going to stop now and this is recursion! ;)

Jim Lambert
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