Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/7/21 9:38 PM, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote: I hear you Sean ..it is pretty interesting These are like gritty details about the engine, and I love learning them. I did not expect less than a microsecond / operation, thats for sure. There are a few other operations I would like to

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I hear you Sean ..it is pretty interesting These are like gritty details about the engine, and I love learning them. I did not expect less than a microsecond / operation, thats for sure. There are a few other operations I would like to test in this way. thanks for reminding me about the

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Nice to hear from you Sean On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 02:02, John Balgenorth via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > GO SCREW YOURSELF! > > JB > > > On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Hi JB > > So what I

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread John Balgenorth via use-livecode
GO SCREW YOURSELF! JB > On Apr 7, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi JB > So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically, you > hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people > about things loosely related to my

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi JB So what I read from your message, appreciated as it is, that basically, you hijacked my thread for your own intents and purposes of educating people about things loosely related to my question but without actually answering said question and without changing the subject to one that better

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread John Balgenorth via use-livecode
This is a list of people reading and answering questions about LiveCode programming. You might think my explanation of your typo was not what you were looking for especially since I mentioned C and C++ in the reply. But I personally answered the way I did for many reasons and even told you to

Re: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 19:27, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > A good compromise would be providing a checkbox in standalone settings > where we can decide > whether we want to preserve local variables or not. If we don't care, the > SB should go ahead >

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Lagi, I feel your pain, I do. However, I only see a moderate amount of unresponsiveness and I can usually put it down to the way I use it on Windoze in a VM on a Mac. The stack I am working on at the moment takes 5 seconds to save on mac side but 30 seconds on the Win10. My colleague running on a

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Who, those who can't read simple instructions. I agree. ;) Sean On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 00:10, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I vote to ban. > > Bob S > > > > On Apr 7, 2021, at 15:59 , Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Hi Tom It is really interesting to see the results from this though. Tried it on my various machines and got pretty much the same results as everyone else consistently. It's amazing to see that in the region of 3000 loops occur in the period of 1ms. which means we are perhaps getting 1 (lowish

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I vote to ban. Bob S > On Apr 7, 2021, at 15:59 , Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Jacque, > > That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive, > knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course > prefer it if there were a way, but

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque, That's all I needed to hear. As long as it is an absolute, definitive, knowledgeable 'no', I'm 'happy' to hear it. Sort of. I'd of course prefer it if there were a way, but hey ho! I make no apology for 'insulting' 'people' if they cannot read instructions or get simple

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Fair enough. You are no good for my BPD. You needn't even say NO. If you don't have the answer, say nothing. You are not obliged to answer just because you have the means. Sean On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 23:09, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > On 07/04/2021

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I just DL LC 9.6.2 RC4 on a Windows VM running Server 2012R2. Saving is much faster, although not quite up to speed with the Mac OS. Querying a database however seems to be quite slow. When running a tick counter on my MacOS I get this: sites: 7 devices: 4 accessories: 6 service: 7 service: 6

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Excellent ... Yes the 1st one was usually the one that was the lowest for me, for the reason you described. But you also cleared up the mysterious big jumps,I too now get a consistent result. Thanks for chimming in On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:59 PM Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode <

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 07/04/2021 16:46, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: FFS Alex, I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY. And now I have too. And I found that fun and interesting. Thank you for triggering this interesting

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/7/2021 3:57 PM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Unresponsive to me is typing 10 characters and seeing them appear one by 1 after I have finished typing , or waiting for 3 4 or more seconds between each debugger step .. I'm not saying you're not seeing an unacceptable slow down on

Re: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
+1 > On Apr 7, 2021, at 11:27 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 4/7/21 12:03 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: >> The problems introduced were far more numerous than those "fixed." > > A good compromise would be providing a checkbox in standalone settings where > we

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hi Lagi, What unresponsiveness in windows 10 are you referring to? the one that needs wait 0 with messages to avoid a frozen window? I just reported what i think is a bug that has been there for years and thats endless high cpu usage when using -ui flag . on WIndows 10 ... and 7. I think. I

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi The unresponsiveness in Big Su is fixed and Ive only been asking for 3 or 4 years that the unresponsiveness in windows 10 (and probably 7) is fixed. I have a 10th generation core I7 with 16G of ram and it runs like molasses - especially when using the debugger. Ive tried EVERYTHING short of

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode
I tried this and got pretty constant results except for maybe the first ten iterations. I figured if you just jump in with the milliseconds you would not be at the "beginning" of the milliseconds and added a repeat loop to mitigate that effect. Furthermore I appended the result to a variable.

Re: More Android woes

2021-04-07 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Panos, > Am 07.04.2021 um 20:33 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > : > > Hello Klaus, > > Does your stack by any chance include a barcode scanner widget? I think you > should follow the workaround described here: > > https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22384 EX-ACTLY!

Re: More Android woes

2021-04-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Klaus, Does your stack by any chance include a barcode scanner widget? I think you should follow the workaround described here: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22384 Regards, Panos On Wed, 7 Apr 2021, 20:18 Klaus major-k via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/7/21 12:03 PM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: The problems introduced were far more numerous than those "fixed." A good compromise would be providing a checkbox in standalone settings where we can decide whether we want to preserve local variables or not. If we don't care, the

Re: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Ralph and Curry: Fortunately, I took a break for a week before trying your solutions. For someone who doesn’t do this every day, it is a confusing mess and I suppose that somewhere there is an explanation in the help files of what to do, but my cursory searches didn’t find anything for such a

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/7/21 10:46 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY. I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
tehe ;) Thanks Curry - a bit of relief. Sean On Wed, 7 Apr 2021 at 17:02, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Sean: > > > if there is a way of replacing using cr > > in the find/replace panel of the script editor. > > So what you are REALLY asking is

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I think I realized the problem will test to confirm. I think the Max is actually what the avg should be. I think the writing to the variable is what increases the time between those queries. On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:58 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

More Android woes

2021-04-07 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi all, macOS 10.14.6, LC 9.6.2 rc4 Today i removed JAVA 9.x, installed JAVA 8 and "Android Studio.app" on my Mac. then after hours of despair (why on earth must this be so difficult?) I could tell LC where the SDk etc. were. But only with the help of this forum thread and a Bernard, thank you

RE: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I never built a non-mobile standalone for the first 5 years of using LC. For a mobile build nothing gets closed and gets built from the stack(s) files on disk. What a surprise I got when I built my first desktop standalone. I initially thought that something was very wrong with the IDE and

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I closed everything down to make sure the core was being used as little as possible. It didn't make a difference in the counts or the variance I reported earlier. I guess its not important, but it sure is curious. I think it means the engine is busy with something most of the time, and once in a

Re: Help! I'm stuck

2021-04-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Jacqueline: > It's not a bug, it was intentionally introduced to allow a couple > of features, like retaining script local variables after a build. > Given the amount of extra scripting to work around it for existing > stacks, I think it may have introduced more problems than it tried > to

RE: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I added an average. i7-6700 3.4GHz 8 cores in the VM Run 1: Max==>4586 Min==>460 Average==>3096.058 Run 2: Max==>7573 Min==>460 Average==>3835.764743 Run 3: Max==>7573 Min==>728 Average==>2947.388 Interesting Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services

RE: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
I scanned the results after it was done and got this: Max==>3959 Min==>1015 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Tom Glod via use-livecode

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hmmm I averaged about 3500. but every so often 7000+. On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:17 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Here's the first few from LC 9.6.1 Win 10 Pro VM SSD > > 1473 > 3326 > 3397 > 3155 > 2442 > 3234 > 2292 > 3349 > 3380 >

RE: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Here's the first few from LC 9.6.1 Win 10 Pro VM SSD 1473 3326 3397 3155 2442 3234 2292 3349 3380 3275 3259 3498 3300 3634 3462 3228 3896 3762 3197 3186 2188 1461 2716 3358 2940 2886 2614 2264 3038 3322 3305 3372 3395 3418 2579 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services

Re: Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode
It averages around 3850 and 3900 every time I try. However, when I try to run the test 1 times the average goes down to just above 3600. BigSur on Xeon W 3GHz. Best regards Tore Nilsen > 7. apr. 2021 kl. 18:03 skrev Tom Glod via use-livecode > : > > Hey peeps, > > I wanted to measure

Checking the Milliseconds

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hey peeps, I wanted to measure how many times the LC engine can check the milliseconds count during each millisecond that passes. The results really surprised me, I thought it would be less, but I don't know why really. Anyone want to take a guess? What is strange about my results, is that

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Sean: > if there is a way of replacing using cr > in the find/replace panel of the script editor. So what you are REALLY asking is whether nested style arrays and chained behaviors can be used with tsNet and DataGrid in a git-compatible environment to create an IDE within an IDE, via a

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
FFS Alex, I HAVE created a plugin! I was JUST trying to ask, can I insert a cr using the replace field of the Find Replace ONLY. I flipping already know how LC works for most other things. I dont need explanations on how to suck effing eggs. Just answer the sodding question. Answer nothing but

Re: Find Replace in Script Editor with cr

2021-04-07 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Hi Sean, I'm struggling a bit to understand how you intend to use this. You give an example of *if* field "Level" begins with "Director" and field "UserDisplay" is not empty and field "UserDisplay" is not "All Agents" and the label of button "Status" is "All Sales"*then* *put*

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4 comes with 1