Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode
Sooo... it's ARTIFICIAL intelligence, meaning there's a programmer behind it telling it how to respond, or else how not to. Obviously I'm not a huge believer in AI. It seems more like WIKI to me. Bob S > On Jan 12, 2023, at 01:16 , Heather Laine via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, it only retains this "learning" for the session with you. To ensure > wider learning for the future, you need to give feedback via the "Contact Us" > page. I think its trainers can then apply the learning in some unknown > fashion. > > Best Regards, > > Heather > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > > > >> On 12 Jan 2023, at 07:11, Beda via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Hell again, I just asked Chat GPT and it answered always very politly: >> >> Me: Thanks that's ok >> >> Chat GPT: You're welcome! I'm glad I could help. If you have any other >> questions about LiveCode or any other programming language, feel free to ask. >> >> Me: Did you learn something about Livecode by our conversation? >> >> Chat GPT: As a language model AI, I do not have the ability to learn or >> experience things. However, I do have access to a vast amount of information >> and knowledge, and my answers are generated based on that information. >> During our conversation, I provided you with specific examples of how to use >> the "answer" and "put" commands to display a message in the message box in a >> LiveCode application, and also I've clarified my previous mistake about the >> Livecode message box command line interface. >> >> (End of Chat) >> >> Well it even does aknowledge mistakes but doesn't realy say if it will avoid >> these in future! >> >> Best >> >> Beda >> >> >> Am 12.01.23 um 07:54 schrieb Beda via use-livecode: >>> Dear Heather, >>> >>> thank you for your hint, it is real fun! >>> >>> Here my first chat with AI GPT. It seems, that you have to insist sometimes >>> for your demands and then there will be the right answer, but does it learn >>> by this way? >>> >>> Me: Write some code in livecode >>> >>> Chat GPT: I'm sorry, I am a text-based AI and do not have the ability to >>> write code in livecode. However, I can write code in various programming >>> languages such as Python, Java, C++, JavaScript and more. If you give me a >>> specific task, I can write the code for you. >>> >>> >>> Me: Write a "Hello World" statement in livecode >>> >>> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, LiveCode is a visual programming >>> language and development environment that allows you to create apps, games, >>> and more using a drag-and-drop interface, it doesn't have a command line >>> interface. >>> However, I can give you an example of how to display "Hello World" in a >>> LiveCode application. >>> >>> Copy code >>> on mouseUp answer "Hello World!" end mouseUp >>> You would need to have a button in the application and then when you press >>> the button it will display the "Hello World!" message. >>> >>> >>> Me: But yes, livecode has a command line interface called message box >>> >>> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, you are correct that LiveCode does >>> have a command line interface called the message box. You can use the >>> "answer" command to display a message in the message box. >>> >>> Copy code >>> answer "Hello World!" >>> This command will display the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >>> >>> Copy code >>> put "Hello World!" >>> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >>> You can also use the "put" command to display a message in the message box. >>> >>> Copy code >>> put "Hello World!" >>> >>> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >>> >>> (End of the answer) >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Beda >>> >>> >>> Am 11.01.23 um 15:58 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode: Dear List Members and LiveCode Gurus, We're looking for your help. I should start with a warning though: this chatGPT is addictive, you might lose a few hours of your life. But you will have fun doing it :) Our idea is that the chatGPT to be found here: https://chat.openai.com is a truly great way for beginners and even more advanced LiveCoders to get into LiveCode, learn scripting and get common scripts pre-written. It could be an immensely powerful tool in bringing LiveCode to a wider audience. (In case you haven't already wasted hours of your life playing with it, you can ask it to write a LiveCode script for any specific task, and it will take its best shot, with very passable results). Unfortunately, at the moment it has a tendency to make schoolboy (or should I say schoolbot?) errors. It gets the script mostly right but there will be issues that a beginner would not know how to correct. We would love it if the community could help it learn to write beautiful, correct, >
Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode
ChatGPT has been called a search engine without the search engine. I would tend to agree with that. It seems to find bits and pieces of code or articles that others have written before and tries to put them together. It uses a text typing output mode to give it the appearance of an intelligence/person typing at the keyboard, but that is part of the illusion. ChatGPT claims that it isn’t connected to the internet, but it is, or it wouldn’t be able to respond to your questions over the internet. The database that it accesses for answers is however compartmentalized, as far as we have been told. If by some miracle we were able to train it to be super intelligent at writing computer code, do we as programmers really want to shoot ourselves in the foot by giving it the tools to replace our talent? That’s food for thought. Just because something may be technologically possible, doesn’t mean we should necessarily do that thing. Just my two cents. Enjoy your day! Rick > On Jan 12, 2023, at 9:02 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > yesterday was not a good session for me. all responses were irrelevant, and > sometimes seemed random. > we'll see what we find, the next time. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode
yesterday was not a good session for me. all responses were irrelevant, and sometimes seemed random. we'll see what we find, the next time. On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 4:17 AM Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yes, it only retains this "learning" for the session with you. To ensure > wider learning for the future, you need to give feedback via the "Contact > Us" page. I think its trainers can then apply the learning in some unknown > fashion. > > Best Regards, > > Heather > > Heather Laine > Customer Services Manager > LiveCode Ltd > www.livecode.com > > > > > On 12 Jan 2023, at 07:11, Beda via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Hell again, I just asked Chat GPT and it answered always very politly: > > > > Me: Thanks that's ok > > > > Chat GPT: You're welcome! I'm glad I could help. If you have any other > questions about LiveCode or any other programming language, feel free to > ask. > > > > Me: Did you learn something about Livecode by our conversation? > > > > Chat GPT: As a language model AI, I do not have the ability to learn or > experience things. However, I do have access to a vast amount of > information and knowledge, and my answers are generated based on that > information. > > During our conversation, I provided you with specific examples of how to > use the "answer" and "put" commands to display a message in the message box > in a LiveCode application, and also I've clarified my previous mistake > about the Livecode message box command line interface. > > > > (End of Chat) > > > > Well it even does aknowledge mistakes but doesn't realy say if it will > avoid these in future! > > > > Best > > > > Beda > > > > > > Am 12.01.23 um 07:54 schrieb Beda via use-livecode: > >> Dear Heather, > >> > >> thank you for your hint, it is real fun! > >> > >> Here my first chat with AI GPT. It seems, that you have to insist > sometimes for your demands and then there will be the right answer, but > does it learn by this way? > >> > >> Me: Write some code in livecode > >> > >> Chat GPT: I'm sorry, I am a text-based AI and do not have the ability > to write code in livecode. However, I can write code in various programming > languages such as Python, Java, C++, JavaScript and more. If you give me a > specific task, I can write the code for you. > >> > >> > >> Me: Write a "Hello World" statement in livecode > >> > >> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, LiveCode is a visual > programming language and development environment that allows you to create > apps, games, and more using a drag-and-drop interface, it doesn't have a > command line interface. > >> However, I can give you an example of how to display "Hello World" in a > LiveCode application. > >> > >> Copy code > >> on mouseUp answer "Hello World!" end mouseUp > >> You would need to have a button in the application and then when you > press the button it will display the "Hello World!" message. > >> > >> > >> Me: But yes, livecode has a command line interface called message box > >> > >> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, you are correct that LiveCode > does have a command line interface called the message box. You can use the > "answer" command to display a message in the message box. > >> > >> Copy code > >> answer "Hello World!" > >> This command will display the message "Hello World!" in the message box. > >> > >> Copy code > >> put "Hello World!" > >> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. > >> You can also use the "put" command to display a message in the message > box. > >> > >> Copy code > >> put "Hello World!" > >> > >> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. > >> > >> (End of the answer) > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Beda > >> > >> > >> Am 11.01.23 um 15:58 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode: > >>> Dear List Members and LiveCode Gurus, > >>> > >>> We're looking for your help. I should start with a warning though: > this chatGPT is addictive, you might lose a few hours of your life. But you > will have fun doing it :) > >>> > >>> Our idea is that the chatGPT to be found here: > >>> > >>> https://chat.openai.com > >>> > >>> is a truly great way for beginners and even more advanced LiveCoders > to get into LiveCode, learn scripting and get common scripts pre-written. > It could be an immensely powerful tool in bringing LiveCode to a wider > audience. (In case you haven't already wasted hours of your life playing > with it, you can ask it to write a LiveCode script for any specific task, > and it will take its best shot, with very passable results). > >>> > >>> Unfortunately, at the moment it has a tendency to make schoolboy (or > should I say schoolbot?) errors. It gets the script mostly right but there > will be issues that a beginner would not know how to correct. We would love > it if the community could help it learn to write beautiful, correct, > LiveCode. To do this, it needs feedback. We asked it how
Re: Training the AI to write better LiveCode
Yes, it only retains this "learning" for the session with you. To ensure wider learning for the future, you need to give feedback via the "Contact Us" page. I think its trainers can then apply the learning in some unknown fashion. Best Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com > On 12 Jan 2023, at 07:11, Beda via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hell again, I just asked Chat GPT and it answered always very politly: > > Me: Thanks that's ok > > Chat GPT: You're welcome! I'm glad I could help. If you have any other > questions about LiveCode or any other programming language, feel free to ask. > > Me: Did you learn something about Livecode by our conversation? > > Chat GPT: As a language model AI, I do not have the ability to learn or > experience things. However, I do have access to a vast amount of information > and knowledge, and my answers are generated based on that information. > During our conversation, I provided you with specific examples of how to use > the "answer" and "put" commands to display a message in the message box in a > LiveCode application, and also I've clarified my previous mistake about the > Livecode message box command line interface. > > (End of Chat) > > Well it even does aknowledge mistakes but doesn't realy say if it will avoid > these in future! > > Best > > Beda > > > Am 12.01.23 um 07:54 schrieb Beda via use-livecode: >> Dear Heather, >> >> thank you for your hint, it is real fun! >> >> Here my first chat with AI GPT. It seems, that you have to insist sometimes >> for your demands and then there will be the right answer, but does it learn >> by this way? >> >> Me: Write some code in livecode >> >> Chat GPT: I'm sorry, I am a text-based AI and do not have the ability to >> write code in livecode. However, I can write code in various programming >> languages such as Python, Java, C++, JavaScript and more. If you give me a >> specific task, I can write the code for you. >> >> >> Me: Write a "Hello World" statement in livecode >> >> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, LiveCode is a visual programming >> language and development environment that allows you to create apps, games, >> and more using a drag-and-drop interface, it doesn't have a command line >> interface. >> However, I can give you an example of how to display "Hello World" in a >> LiveCode application. >> >> Copy code >> on mouseUp answer "Hello World!" end mouseUp >> You would need to have a button in the application and then when you press >> the button it will display the "Hello World!" message. >> >> >> Me: But yes, livecode has a command line interface called message box >> >> Chat GPT: I apologize for the confusion, you are correct that LiveCode does >> have a command line interface called the message box. You can use the >> "answer" command to display a message in the message box. >> >> Copy code >> answer "Hello World!" >> This command will display the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >> >> Copy code >> put "Hello World!" >> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >> You can also use the "put" command to display a message in the message box. >> >> Copy code >> put "Hello World!" >> >> This command will output the message "Hello World!" in the message box. >> >> (End of the answer) >> >> Best regards >> >> Beda >> >> >> Am 11.01.23 um 15:58 schrieb Heather Laine via use-livecode: >>> Dear List Members and LiveCode Gurus, >>> >>> We're looking for your help. I should start with a warning though: this >>> chatGPT is addictive, you might lose a few hours of your life. But you will >>> have fun doing it :) >>> >>> Our idea is that the chatGPT to be found here: >>> >>> https://chat.openai.com >>> >>> is a truly great way for beginners and even more advanced LiveCoders to get >>> into LiveCode, learn scripting and get common scripts pre-written. It could >>> be an immensely powerful tool in bringing LiveCode to a wider audience. (In >>> case you haven't already wasted hours of your life playing with it, you can >>> ask it to write a LiveCode script for any specific task, and it will take >>> its best shot, with very passable results). >>> >>> Unfortunately, at the moment it has a tendency to make schoolboy (or should >>> I say schoolbot?) errors. It gets the script mostly right but there will be >>> issues that a beginner would not know how to correct. We would love it if >>> the community could help it learn to write beautiful, correct, LiveCode. To >>> do this, it needs feedback. We asked it how to give feedback and this is >>> what it suggests: >>> >>> There are a few ways you can provide feedback on ChatGPT: >>> • You can submit feedback through the OpenAI website by navigating to >>> the “Contact Us” page and selecting “Model Feedback” as the topic. >>> • You can also provide feedback on the OpenAI GPT-3 forum, where users >>> can share thei
