Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Friends,

For those that want to check things out, I've uploaded a video showing the
creation of a minimal stack that is able to post to Facebook.

http://vimeo.com/93548602

=D


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
 GRAVE!

 Hey Folks,

 Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
 the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5 and
 Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
 been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is always
 impressed.

 Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
 managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
 works.

 You can learn more about it at:

 http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/

 Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
 relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I will
 sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
 decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an MVP.

 The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
 and photos to a user wall.

 I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib available.

 Check them out and send any feedback my way.

 Cheers
 Andre

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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-02 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Man! :D


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 02/05/14 00:49, Andre Garzia wrote:

 auhahuahuahuahuauhauha

 Its very good to be back my friends!

 Hey Jacqu :D




 Hey Ho!

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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Folks,

Once you authorize once, Facebook stores some cookies. So the next time you
ask for authorization it will only flash the RevBrowser window because as
soon as we open it and ask for the authorization dialog, facebook
recognizes who it is and redirects straight to the authorization callback
with the tokens.

If you logged and authorize as some user and want to authorize yourself as
some other user instead, you need to call fbLogout() function. This
function will call facebook to remove the app permissions for the logged
user and remove the data from the script local array used to store the
tokens. The next time you call fbAuthorize then you will see the dialog.

This all happens because the webview inside RevBrowser stores local data
from Facebook. There is no way around it unless we start injecting
Javascript into that window and thats a recipe for bugs.

I've updated the library and you should download again from the link you
received. The current version is numbered 1.4, it appears that sendowl
system is not sending the update emails. I will add some update checking
routine to the stack.

Richard, I am writing a better manual that you will enjoy.

Cheers




On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 That sounds about right. I am having more problems on the Windows side
 than on the Mac side. If you get it to log out and then display the log-in
 window again (i.e. asking for username/pw), please let me know. I can't get
 that working.

 Richard



 On 5/3/14, 8:48 AM, Gerry wrote:

 Mac. And no, not tried that. Also the FB authorisation window displays as
 blank before disappearing - it seems to authorise ok without me doing
 anything and lets me post from my app too. Not had a lot of time to look
 beyond the basics yet, and I'm really waiting for the iOS version :)

 Gerry

 Sent from my iPad

  On 3 May 2014, at 7:55 pm, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

 Gerry,

 Are you running in on a Mac or PC?

 Have you been able to log out of one FB account and log back in under a
 different one?

 Thanks,
 Richard Miller




  On 5/2/14, 5:48 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote:
 Got mine - works so well and I can't wait till the mobile version.

 Gerry


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Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

In 2012 I've registered the domain name livecodebooks.com I'd be happy to
put a page up with links to all books available if someone could send me
links, blurbs and covers.

Cheers
andre


On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:

 I am encouraging the use of LiveCode as a preferred language for a
 corporation and some its sister companies.

 Once of the concerns expressed is the lack of books.

 I’ll do my diligence in searching lists, Amazon and the web in general,
 but I wonder if people could mention their books or book projects or books
 that might not get mentioned otherwise.

 I also crave reasons why such a lack (if real) is mitigated.

 Dar
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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Kaveh,

It appears that we're both back! I too went away for a while but I am so
happy to be back!

At this moment I am using LiveCode community version but I hope to have a
subscription again at some point in the future (or I may have a
subscription but I am not aware of it, so many kickstarters and promotions,
I lost track).

Its so good to hear from you, how life has been treating you over there?

Cheers


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Kaveh Bazargan 
ka...@rivervalleytechnologies.com wrote:

 Hi Andre

 What a great welcome for me. I have just raised my head here after a long
 time of dormancy and renewed my subscriptions and the first mail I see is
 my friend André. :-)

 The HyperCard bug never left me. I started using it since beta!

 Looking forward to enjoying the knowledge of my friends again, and perhaps
 at last doing something real...


 On 1 May 2014 19:51, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
  GRAVE!
 
  Hey Folks,
 
  Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
  the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5
 and
  Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
  been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is
 always
  impressed.
 
  Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
  managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
  works.
 
  You can learn more about it at:
 
  http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/
 
  Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now it
  relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I
 will
  sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
  decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an
 MVP.
 
  The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
  and photos to a user wall.
 
  I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib
 available.
 
  Check them out and send any feedback my way.
 
  Cheers
  Andre
 
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Re: Editor hints

2014-05-03 Thread Andre Garzia
We had completion in the 1.x or 2.x era IIRC...


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 On 5/3/14, 4:03 PM, Dar Scott wrote:

 Nothing?

 No editor hints or completion?


 Not yet. I don't remember ever having it. Sounds like a feature request to
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Re: [ANN] Facebook Lib

2014-05-03 Thread Andre Garzia
Guys,

I've added a PDF quick guide that you can take a look at:

http://andregarzia.com/files/FacebookLib.pdf

This guide is included with the new version of the library. There is also
an update checked if you click on the version number. Current version is
1.5 so if you're not running it then you should download again.

Cheers


On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:48 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Hi Kaveh,

 It appears that we're both back! I too went away for a while but I am so
 happy to be back!

 At this moment I am using LiveCode community version but I hope to have a
 subscription again at some point in the future (or I may have a
 subscription but I am not aware of it, so many kickstarters and promotions,
 I lost track).

 Its so good to hear from you, how life has been treating you over there?

 Cheers


 On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Kaveh Bazargan 
 ka...@rivervalleytechnologies.com wrote:

 Hi Andre

 What a great welcome for me. I have just raised my head here after a long
 time of dormancy and renewed my subscriptions and the first mail I see is
 my friend André. :-)

 The HyperCard bug never left me. I started using it since beta!

 Looking forward to enjoying the knowledge of my friends again, and perhaps
 at last doing something real...


 On 1 May 2014 19:51, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  As said in the popular Sega Genesis game Altered Beast: RISE FROM YOUR
  GRAVE!
 
  Hey Folks,
 
  Long time no see! I missed you all and this is my I am back email. For
  the past year and a half I've been heavily involved with Mozilla, HTML5
 and
  Firefox OS but I never forgot LiveCode or how much I love you all. I've
  been showing LiveCode to people all over the past year, everyone is
 always
  impressed.
 
  Well, back to business, there will be time for small talk later! I've
  managed to build a simple Facebook Library for LiveCode. Finally! And it
  works.
 
  You can learn more about it at:
 
  http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/
 
  Basically it allows you to post and get stuff from Facebook. Right now
 it
  relies on RevBrowser so its available only for Mac OS X and Windows. I
 will
  sort mobile shortly but since I knew that some people here needed this I
  decided to start selling it with the Desktop platform only. Call it an
 MVP.
 
  The library is there along with a sample stack that is able to post text
  and photos to a user wall.
 
  I've also made new bundles of DB Lib, AAG Tools and Facebook Lib
 available.
 
  Check them out and send any feedback my way.
 
  Cheers
  Andre
 
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  http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service.
 
 
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Re: Oauth in Livecode?

2014-05-05 Thread Andre Garzia
OAuth 1.0 and 1.0a sucks! Horrible specs and hard to implement. On the
other hand OAuth 2.0 is quite easy to implement. I've did that for Facebook
Lib. Does the API you need has an OAuth 2.0 endpoint?


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Monk in Exile david.bov...@gmail.comwrote:

 Any updates on this - I've got a bunch of stuff that needs oAuth in various
 flavours.


 On 1 February 2014 04:36, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:

  Hi Geoff,
 
  I'm currently working on a Vimeo code lib that includes Vimeo's OAuth
 1.0a
  implementation to the extent it's needed for logging in and using parts
 of
  their Advanced API. ( https://developer.vimeo.com/apis/advanced )
 
  I know Andre had hopes of creating a more generalized OAuth lib in the
  past, but I don't know if he plans to finish it. That's everything I know
  about the subject.
 
  Phil Davis
 
 
 
  On 1/31/14, 7:14 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
 
  I see references online to various efforts toward this, but I don't
  see any actual working code. Am I missing it?
 
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Re: Oauth in Livecode?

2014-05-05 Thread Andre Garzia
Howard,

As far as I can tell this article is a complete FUD.

What it is saying is that someone could use the redirect URL part of the
OAuth 2.0 cycle to redirect you to some place else. This is the same thing
as opening any phishing site. If you open a website, click for example
Login with Facebook and click OK for all the permission requests, you're
giving away that information to the site. There is no real limit to what it
can do with that info.

If the Login with Facebook (or any other OAuth 2.0 button) has been
tampered or fiddled with by someone with bad intentions so that it
redirects to some evil site and steal if your info this is not a flaw in
OAuth 2.0, this is how the web works. The thing is that people will give
their access to their personal information freely without thinking about
the consequences. Next time some site is asking for access to all your
profile information, plus your friends, plus your contacts, plus
everything, you should think why does this site needs this information?!
People often just click Allow without thinking.

This was all solved by Mozilla with Persona Login system that shared no
information besides attesting that someone was really someone.
Unfortunately and probably because it would not allow profile information
to go thru and was minimal and federated, it never saw strong adoption to
the point where its on community maintenance mode. I still use it everyday
to log into Mozilla properties such as our Bugzilla.

Cheers


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.comwrote:

 And of course, there's this:


 http://lifehacker.com/security-flaw-found-in-oauth-and-openid-heres-what-it-1570872265


 On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Dar Scott d...@swcp.com wrote:

  I’ve created an OAuth 1 in the past for Evernote all in LiveCode plus the
  favorite browser.  So, it can be done, but I won’t say it is not hard.
 
  I did run into some OAuth 2 problems with a kiosk that connected to
  ConstantContact and used an alternate security.  Those problems were
  related to the kiosk environment and the management console.  In that
 one,
  I ended up using an alternative scheme.
 
  Dar Scott
  Controls, Libraries and Externals
 
 
 
 
  On May 5, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
 
   OAuth 1.0 and 1.0a sucks! Horrible specs and hard to implement. On the
   other hand OAuth 2.0 is quite easy to implement. I've did that for
  Facebook
   Lib. Does the API you need has an OAuth 2.0 endpoint?
  
  
   On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Monk in Exile david.bov...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Any updates on this - I've got a bunch of stuff that needs oAuth in
  various
   flavours.
  
  
   On 1 February 2014 04:36, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote:
  
   Hi Geoff,
  
   I'm currently working on a Vimeo code lib that includes Vimeo's OAuth
   1.0a
   implementation to the extent it's needed for logging in and using
 parts
   of
   their Advanced API. ( https://developer.vimeo.com/apis/advanced )
  
   I know Andre had hopes of creating a more generalized OAuth lib in
 the
   past, but I don't know if he plans to finish it. That's everything I
  know
   about the subject.
  
   Phil Davis
  
  
  
   On 1/31/14, 7:14 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote:
  
   I see references online to various efforts toward this, but I don't
   see any actual working code. Am I missing it?
  
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Re: SUMMARY Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard,

I have the domain livecodebooks.com, can you provide me with some URLs
and then I will put a simple page up. Google will index it and everyone
will be wiser! :D

Cheers


On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 Dar Scott wrote:

 I noted these:

 RunRev Ltd.
 LiveCode User Guide

 Mark Schonewille
 Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner

 Scott McDonald
 Coding Nine LiveCode Games

 Colin Holgate
 LiveCode Mobile Development

 Edward D. Lavieri Jr.
 LiveCode Mobile Development Hotshot

 Did I miss anything?  Is the last one real?


 It's from the well-established Packt Publishing, so it seems real enough:
 http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-mobile-development-hotshot/book

 If the list is limited to books specifically, while there are at least two
 or three others in development I believe that list is fairly complete for
 the moment.

 But if we consider the larger scope of learning materials for LiveCode
 online works make a great way to learn programming, and of those there's
 Devin Asay's free LC course:
 http://livecode.byu.edu/

 ...and his expanded paid course, priced about as low as a book:
 https://livecode.com/store/training/livecode-university/

 There are of course hundreds of smaller topic-specific tutorials floating
 around, but as far as scope and quality on par with a book Devin's work is
 IMO definitely important to add to such a list.

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Re: SUMMARY Re: LiveCode Books

2014-05-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Pete,

I don't plan to host tutorials. I just want to host the cover for each
book, a tiny blurb/sales pitch and a link to where people can buy them.
Thats it. A single page pointing to resources. Don underestimate the
potential of the domain name livecodebooks.com when searching for books
about livecode... search providers will crawl it easier and the authors
will get more exposure.

;-)


On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:

 Hi Andre,
 Without wishing to dampen the enthusiasm to do this, it does result in yet
 another place to look for Livecode resources online.  It might be better to
 ask Scott McDonald to add a section to his Livecode supersite for books.

 Pete
 lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
 Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
 SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html


 On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com
 wrote:

  Richard,
 
  I have the domain livecodebooks.com, can you provide me with some URLs
  and then I will put a simple page up. Google will index it and everyone
  will be wiser! :D
 
  Cheers
 
 
  On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Richard Gaskin
  ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:
 
   Dar Scott wrote:
  
   I noted these:
  
   RunRev Ltd.
   LiveCode User Guide
  
   Mark Schonewille
   Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
  
   Scott McDonald
   Coding Nine LiveCode Games
  
   Colin Holgate
   LiveCode Mobile Development
  
   Edward D. Lavieri Jr.
   LiveCode Mobile Development Hotshot
  
   Did I miss anything?  Is the last one real?
  
  
   It's from the well-established Packt Publishing, so it seems real
 enough:
   http://www.packtpub.com/livecode-mobile-development-hotshot/book
  
   If the list is limited to books specifically, while there are at least
  two
   or three others in development I believe that list is fairly complete
 for
   the moment.
  
   But if we consider the larger scope of learning materials for LiveCode
   online works make a great way to learn programming, and of those
 there's
   Devin Asay's free LC course:
   http://livecode.byu.edu/
  
   ...and his expanded paid course, priced about as low as a book:
   https://livecode.com/store/training/livecode-university/
  
   There are of course hundreds of smaller topic-specific tutorials
 floating
   around, but as far as scope and quality on par with a book Devin's work
  is
   IMO definitely important to add to such a list.
  
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[UPDATE] FacebookLib now works on Mobile

2014-05-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Friends,

Just to announce that FacebookLib now works with Mobile. So all you happy
mobile developers can now integrate Facebook features into your application.

Current customers should be receiving their update notice email shortly
(courtesy of SendOwl).

This means that you can create applications that:

* Acquire user data with their consent.
* Post status updates and pictures.
* Interact with FB groups and pages.

It doesn't matter if you're just fetching user data to build a user record
to replace your old form filling process or if you're posting high scores
to the user wall. FacebookLib is currently the only 100% LiveCode solution
for FB posting.

Check it out at:

http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/

For USD 30 this is a very good price!

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Re: [UPDATE] FacebookLib now works on Mobile

2014-05-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Roger,

When I say mobile I mean Android and iOS.

To check more about liking stuff using the Open Graph API from FB:

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/opengraph/guides/og.likes

FacebookLib can be used for that type of action but the API doesn't allow
liking a page.

Cheers


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote:

 When you say Mobile, you do mean both Android and iOS, correct?  Also, can
 it simply apply a like to a post or a fb page?

 Sent from my Android tablet
 On May 21, 2014 7:17 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  Hey Friends,
 
  Just to announce that FacebookLib now works with Mobile. So all you happy
  mobile developers can now integrate Facebook features into your
  application.
 
  Current customers should be receiving their update notice email shortly
  (courtesy of SendOwl).
 
  This means that you can create applications that:
 
  * Acquire user data with their consent.
  * Post status updates and pictures.
  * Interact with FB groups and pages.
 
  It doesn't matter if you're just fetching user data to build a user
 record
  to replace your old form filling process or if you're posting high scores
  to the user wall. FacebookLib is currently the only 100% LiveCode
 solution
  for FB posting.
 
  Check it out at:
 
  http://andregarzia.com/pages/en/facebooklib/
 
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Re: [UPDATE] FacebookLib now works on Mobile

2014-05-21 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote:

 The use case I had in mind was for example, a user downloads your new app,
 and a button is included to Like this app on Facebook.  Sorry I asked for
 clarity on the term 'mobile'.  Not everyone means both platforms.


Roger,

You can use this library for that type of action but it is overkill, its
easier just to launch a url in the browser from your stack with the like
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Re: Calling Andre Garzia

2014-09-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Simon,

Thanks a lot! Both Richard and Matthias forwarded the thread to me. I've
already replied.

Damn, the guy sent me a single email that goes to spam and all hell breaks
lose. And the worse thing, the problem was not even with my library but
with the fact the he is trying to write to read-only folder. Argh!

Anyway, thanks a lot folks, I've replied to him and refunded him just to be
sure. Don't want unhappy customers.

I miss you all and I wish I was there at the conference with you folks!

Cheers



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 Hi Andre,
 There is some guy not very happy with you here:
 http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=31t=21499

 If any can pass this along directly to Andre I'm sure he'll appreciated
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Re: Calling Andre Garzia

2014-09-09 Thread Andre Garzia
hauhauahahu

Yep, I had a long run going to RunRev conferences. Since it was always
expensive it didn't really made a difference if it was on the US or EU. I
miss Malta a lot.

This is the first time I miss a conference. I feels really bad... :-P

On the other hand I think I did more than 20 conferences last year with
Mozilla so I am also tired of traveling.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Trevor DeVore li...@mangomultimedia.com
wrote:

 On Monday, September 8, 2014, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:
 
 
   Which Malta ?  2004 or 2006 ?
  or both ?
in which case maybe it's not a 3-way tie :-)
 

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Re: dBLib

2014-09-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Terence,

The author did this because sometimes he is not that smart. I've spoken to
the author and he will do an update changing the behaviour. He explained to
me that when the library was built that sounded like a good idea.

;-)


On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com
wrote:

 May have found the answer in the following handler in dbLib.

 I have commented out an “if” test that seems to overwrite the contents of
 the column dbWhere when you try and add another condition.

 Why the author did this, I am not sure, would anyone care to hazard a
 guess?

 Thanks

 Terry


 command dbWhere pColumn, pValue, pConcatenationOperator
if the number of words in pColumn  1 then
   put word 2 of pColumn into tOperator
   put word 1 of pColumn into pColumn
else
   put = into tOperator
end if

if pValue is null then
   put IS into tOperator
   put NULL into pValue
end if

if pValue is not null then
   put IS NOT into tOperator
   put NULL into pValue
end if

if pConcatenationOperator is empty then
   put AND into pConcatenationOperator
end if



--if dbA[where columns][pColumn] is empty then
   if dbA[where] is empty then
  put WHERE  pColumn  tOperator  placeholder(pValue) before
 dbA[where]
   else
  putpConcatenationOperator   pColumn  tOperator 
 placeholder(pValue) after dbA[where]
   end if
--else
   --replace dbA[where columns][pColumn] with (pColumn  tOperator
  placeholder(pValue)) in dbA[where]
--end if

set the itemdel to space
put item -3 to -1 of dbA[where]  into dbA[where columns][pColumn]
 end dbWhere





 On 11 Sep 2014, at 10:03, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com
 wrote:

  Thought I’d give this plugin a try:
 
  convert tStartDate from short system date to seconds
  convert tEndDate from short system date to seconds
 
  dbResetQuery
 
  dbWhere category, pItemName
 
  dbWhere date =, tStartDate
 
  dbWhere date =, tEndDate
 
  dbOrderBy “date
 
  put dbGet(sq(tTableName)) into tTranData
 
  tStartDate and tEndDate are in seconds.
 
  The SQL generated is
 
  SELECT * FROM ‘my table' WHERE category = :1 AND date = :3  ORDER BY
 date
 
  Why is it not including tStartDate?
 
  Can anyone help?
 
  Thanks
 
  Terry
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Re: Can LC application receive a shell command with parameters?

2014-09-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Bill,

This is a shot in the dark but if you're doing that on Mac OS X then I
think you may be able to use AppleEvents. I don't know if they are still
supported.

Cheers
andre

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote:

 Mike,

 I’m not sure. I want to have a running application and then periodically a
 different application on the computer might send my app a text string.

 Scenario
 A different application sends the command pathtomyapp 555-555-.

 My application would have some way of receiving the command and then call
 a handler in my app to do a search..

 I don’t see what my handler would look like in my app.

 Thanks,
 Bill Vlahos

 On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Michael Doub miked...@gmail.com wrote:

  Look up $ in the dictionary.   You can get access to all of the
 environment variables for command line apps.   Is that what you are looking
 for?
 
  -= Mike
 
 
  On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Bill Vlahos bvla...@mac.com wrote:
 
  I want to have a different program pass a parameter (in this case a
 callerID phone number) to my LC application via a shell command to do a
 search in and bring up a person’s record.
 
  How can I receive it and handle it?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: revHHTP

2014-11-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Friends,

I haven't touched this in ages. I have a couple gigs on a folder called
RunRev Source here and there was a RevHTTP folder there. There is a lot
of non-working half baked goodies in that folder but I think that the main
httpd.rev file should work ok.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0636wl30z4btg1u/RevHTTP.zip?dl=0

Have fun and send me feedback.

Also, a disclaimer: You should not host any public facing thing using this
server. Its a research, hobbie, toy thing. It can't answer more than one
request at a time and this will kill things for public access. Even so,
people have used this or variations of this source in production for their
internal stuff and were happy with it.

My advise: Go with nginx + livecodeserver.

Cheers


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wrote:


 On 5 Nov 2014, at 7:02 am, Todd Geist t...@geistinteractive.com wrote:

  I put the code on github
 
  https://github.com/toddgeist/lchttpd

 Yay for another FOSS lcVCS project on GitHub! If we keep this up the Ohloh
 folks might eventually get around to merging in my pull request adding
 livecode as a recognised language ;-)

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Re: OT: How to serve a 8GB download?

2014-11-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Tiemo,

I would use bittorrent to serve this file or some public hosting thing
where I didn't pay for traffic. 8gb downloads pile up pretty quickly.

cheers

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de
wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a LC application, which has a total size of about 8GB (including a
 bunch of videos). Usually it is distributed via DVD-DL.

 If I would like to serve it as a download on my webserver, how should I
 package it? Should I just create a single 8GB zip file, or should I split
 it
 in several zip files - is there a tool, which would automate it that all
 related zip files are download one after the other and combined after
 download? Or what would  be an appropriate approach for such a big file? No
 user credentials, no payment is necessary, just a link to the download.

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Re: Comparison of Speed of LiveCode with PHP

2014-11-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Peter,

Thanks for your testing!

I think we're approaching this performance issue wrong. Most webapps will
be I/O bound and not CPU bound. Calculations are not the most common thing
going on but I/O in the sense of reading and writing from database and
files are. Also the only way to deal with structured data in memory in a
straight forward way is LiveCode multilevel arrays but there is no built-in
way to serialize these arrays for consumption outside of LiveCode. For
example, a common thing these days is to have your client-side HTML5 code
calling back your server-side code for more information which is normally
presented in JSON but LiveCode has no built-in function for JSON encoding
and decoding, so both operations happen in pure transcript (or whatever
they are calling it these days) which will make it really slow.

If we want LiveCode to have better performance we need ways to improve I/O.
Things that would be good and have a real impact out of the box:

- JSON and XML encode and decode functions in the engine.
- Non-blocking DB routines


A different issue is scalability. Right now, LiveCode Server works in CGI
mode which is very straight forward but it is not the most scalable thing
under the sun. When I say scale, I am not saying things such as serving
5.000 users. Serving a couple thousand users is easy. I am saying serving
some hundred thousand users with complex server side logic, afterall doing
100.000 hello worlds is easy.

PHP is going thru lots of revolutions in the form of the Facebook
initiatives such as hack (new PHP variation), that VM they created and
the little compiler they created which I forgot the name. The PHP
developers are also pushing PHPNG and other gizmos. Even current generation
PHP is not usually server with CGI technology.

Ruby, Node, Python, Clojure, Java, none are served with CGI. Most of them
could be used as CGI but no one is using them this way. CGI is easy but it
is not scalable. Imagine that if you were serving 10.000 concurrent
requests on your little server farm, you're have a collection of 10.000
LiveCode server processes between your servers.

What we need is something like Python WSGI or a non-blocking engine such as
Node. Then we could with a simple pool of couple LiveCode engine instances
serve a lot of people.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 In a previous email Richard Gaskin, the LiveCode Community Manager, wrote
 Given the role of memory and performance for scaling, if we want to see LC
 Server taken seriously as a professional server tool we need to identify
 and eliminate any significant performance difference between it and PHP.”

 I thought that it would be worth spending a little time to compare the
 speed of LiveCode against the speed of PHP. I came up with a test based
 loosely on Carl Sassenrath’s Rebol Speed Script (
 http://www.rebol.com/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0506 ). I have found it a useful
 base for writing comparative scripts (either comparing languages on a
 single machine or comparing machines using a single language). It is far
 from perfect in a multi-tasking environment but I believe provides decent
 comparative data.

 I have attached two scripts, speedtest.lc and speedtest.php. I’m sure
 that both could be improved significantly and welcome such improvements.
 The results of running the two scripts on my machine, LiveCode 7.0.0-rc-3
 and PHP 5.5.14 are:

 Schulz:LiveCodeServer peter$ ./speedtest.lc
 LiveCode Speed Test Started
 The CPU test took: 2851 ms
 The Memory test took:   3656 ms
 The File System test took:  1975 ms
 LiveCode Speed Test Finished

 Schulz:LiveCodeServer peter$ ./speedtest.php
 PHP Speed Test Started
 The CPU test took:  3921 ms
 The Memory test took:   1200 ms
 The File System test took:  666 ms
 PHP Speed Test Finished

 So it seems the LiveCode has the edge on PHP when it comes to calculations
 but not on memory access or file access.

 The memory test relies on using arrays, I'm not sure if that is the best
 way to test memory access.

 Regards

 Peter

 Speedtest.lc

 #!livecode

 if the platform = MacOS then
   set the outputLineEndings to lf
 end if

 put LiveCode Speed Test Started  return

 ##cpu test
 put the millisecs into tStart
 repeat with i = 1 to 1000
   put sqrt(exp(i)) into tTemp
 end repeat
 put the millisecs into tEnd
 put The CPU test took:  tEnd - tStart  ms  return

 ##Memory Access
 put the millisecs into tStart
 repeat with i = 1 to 100
   put random(255) into tMem[i]
 end repeat
 put the millisecs into tEnd
 put The Memory test took:   tEnd - tStart  ms  return

 ##Filesystem
 open file test.tmp
 put the millisecs into tStart
 repeat with i = 1 to 10
   write This is a test of the write speed  random(255) to file
 test.tmp
   read from file test.tmp for 1 line
 end repeat
 put the millisecs into tEnd
 put The File System test took:  tEnd - tStart  ms  return
 delete file test.tmp

 

Re: [OT] Android Material Design

2014-11-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Dave,

Do not count brick in the same box as material design. Material Design is
the new HIG for Android, Web and ChromeOS properties of Google. It can be
used from Java and from HTML5. On HTML5 it uses Web Components which can be
used in Browsers that do not support Web Components thru the Polymer
polyfill and libraries. Mozilla Brick uses the plataform core library from
Polymer Project and builds standard Web Components out of it. Right now
Brick is changing directions and is nowhere close to the current HTML5
implementation of Material Design.

Back to LiveCode, the best way is to be inspired by Material Design and
create your own interface by using beautiful fonts, plain old rectangles
and some of the new graphic effect to give the illusion of depth which is
important in Material Design.

One could craft some reusable LiveCode groups that implement this type of
thing but it is not reusing nothing from Google, its just a new thing that
is inspired by.

Cheers

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com
wrote:

 Yep 'material design' IS nice and can accessed on browsers via Google
 Polymer
 http://itshackademic.com/ - and there are some nice tutorials here
 http://itshackademic.com/codelabs

 I understand Mozilla has a similar project called 'brick'
 (http://brick.mozilla.io/) - but I've never played with brick so you'll
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Need list of books available for LiveCode

2014-11-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Friends,

I know some of the books available about LiveCode but I am sure I am
missing some more recent endeavours. Can you folks provide me with replies
listing the current and future books available?

I own livecodebooks.com and I want to set it up like I did for
firefoxosbooks.org

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Re: Comparison of Speed of LiveCode with PHP

2014-11-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Eons ago I created a library to do FastCGI from LiveCode. Even though my
library supported multiplexing stuff LiveCode could not respond to more
than one user at a time. If LC was multithreaded or had co-routines or
fibers or whatever lightweight gizmo they could create in Scotland to let
us run more than one thing at the same time then FastCGI would be viable.

As it is, FastCGI is worse than CGI for LC because with CGI we can answer
more than one user at the same time by spawning new processes. With
FastCGI, while the request was being processed, no other request would be
answered. Thats not a FastCGI limitation, the protocol is way smarter than
CGI you receive all requests on the same port and you're supposed to
fork(). Since we have nothing like forking on LC, we're dead on that front.

The main issue is that without multithread, fork or something similar that
would allow us to delegate some execution of handlers to another context
and thus enable us to execute multiple stuff at the same time we can't
implement FastCGI.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co wrote:

 The benefit of FastCGI would be that the Fast cgi instance would always be
 running and would not need to be restarted every time a .lc script is
 parsed saving on the execution time.

 Even as a CGI process, LiveCode should already be able to run behind a load
 balancing server,

 Kind Regards
 Simon

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Andre
 
  I agree with your comments on the appropriateness of the tests. I’ll give
  some thought to incorporating more I/O based tests.
 
  Do you think that having FastCGI support so that LiveCode could be run
  behind a load balancing server would be an improvement from a scalability
  point of view.
 
  Regards
 
  Peter
 
   On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:42, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
  
   Hi Peter,
  
   Thanks for your testing!
  
   I think we're approaching this performance issue wrong. Most webapps
 will
   be I/O bound and not CPU bound. Calculations are not the most common
  thing
   going on but I/O in the sense of reading and writing from database and
   files are. Also the only way to deal with structured data in memory in
 a
   straight forward way is LiveCode multilevel arrays but there is no
  built-in
   way to serialize these arrays for consumption outside of LiveCode. For
   example, a common thing these days is to have your client-side HTML5
 code
   calling back your server-side code for more information which is
 normally
   presented in JSON but LiveCode has no built-in function for JSON
 encoding
   and decoding, so both operations happen in pure transcript (or whatever
   they are calling it these days) which will make it really slow.
  
   If we want LiveCode to have better performance we need ways to improve
  I/O.
   Things that would be good and have a real impact out of the box:
  
   - JSON and XML encode and decode functions in the engine.
   - Non-blocking DB routines
  
  
   A different issue is scalability. Right now, LiveCode Server works in
 CGI
   mode which is very straight forward but it is not the most scalable
 thing
   under the sun. When I say scale, I am not saying things such as serving
   5.000 users. Serving a couple thousand users is easy. I am saying
 serving
   some hundred thousand users with complex server side logic, afterall
  doing
   100.000 hello worlds is easy.
  
   PHP is going thru lots of revolutions in the form of the Facebook
   initiatives such as hack (new PHP variation), that VM they created
 and
   the little compiler they created which I forgot the name. The PHP
   developers are also pushing PHPNG and other gizmos. Even current
  generation
   PHP is not usually server with CGI technology.
  
   Ruby, Node, Python, Clojure, Java, none are served with CGI. Most of
 them
   could be used as CGI but no one is using them this way. CGI is easy but
  it
   is not scalable. Imagine that if you were serving 10.000 concurrent
   requests on your little server farm, you're have a collection of 10.000
   LiveCode server processes between your servers.
  
   What we need is something like Python WSGI or a non-blocking engine
 such
  as
   Node. Then we could with a simple pool of couple LiveCode engine
  instances
   serve a lot of people.
  
   On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
  
   In a previous email Richard Gaskin, the LiveCode Community Manager,
  wrote
   Given the role of memory and performance for scaling, if we want to
  see LC
   Server taken seriously as a professional server tool we need to
 identify
   and eliminate any significant performance difference between it and
  PHP.”
  
   I thought that it would be worth spending a little time to compare the
   speed of LiveCode against the speed of PHP. I came up with a test
 based
   loosely on Carl Sassenrath’s Rebol Speed Script (
   http

Re: LC Script in PHP File

2014-11-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Peter,

Most PHP installations will not allow file_get_contents() to be run on
localhost to prevent infinite loops. I've been hurt by that before.

cheers


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:09 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 You should be able to use file_get_contents in PHP to do what you want.
 Though it will take longer to get the results from LiveCode than it would
 from PHP.

 Here is an example:

 PHP file:
 !DOCTYPE html
 html
 head
 meta http-equiv=content-type
 content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
 titleTesting Getting Results From Website/title
 /head
 body
 p
   ?php
 $livecode_returned = file_get_contents('
 http://localhost/webtest.lc');
 echo($livecode_returned);
   ?
 /p
 /body
 /html

 LiveCode file:
 ?lc
 if $_GET[name]   then
   put Peter into tName
else
   put World into tName
end if
 put header Content-Type: text/html
 put html
 put head
 put titleMy LiveCode Server Test Page/title
 put /head
 put body
 put h1My LiveCode Server Test Page/h1
 put pHello  tName  from LiveCode Server/p
 put pThe date is  the internet date  /p
 put p  the second char of 12345  /p
 put /body
 put /html
 ?

 Results:
 My LiveCode Server Test Page

 Hello World from LiveCode Server

 The date is Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:27:24 +0800

 2

 Hope this helps.

 Peter

  On 23 Nov 2014, at 13:29, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am in the process of putting a web app together using the UserFrosting
 system as a starting point.
  I am slowly getting the hang of the framework and am now wishing to
 start using LC Server to do some backend crunching to render the pages. (Im
 not picking up PHP as fast as I hoped!)
 
  The UserFrosting system bases all of its page contents in PHP Files by
 design.
 
  For example the index file is index.php
 
  My question is, am I able to call LC functions from within a PHP file?
 
  For example, in the below page (which is a PHP file)
  Red content...
 
  ?php
  /*

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Re: LC Script in PHP File

2014-11-25 Thread Andre Garzia
I've just replied on another thread why FastCGI is not a good candidate for
LiveCode in my humble opinion.

As for Apache Modules, those things are on the way out. If we want LC
Server to be taken seriously then it need to work with Apache and Nginx. it
needs to work like Node, Ruby, Python and others are working which is by
having a LC Server process (or pool) listening on a port talking back to
the Apache/Nginx usually thru some reverse proxy directive.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Simon

 FastCGI support would be excellent from my point of view as it would allow
 LiveCode to be run behind a web server acting as a load balancer.

 Regards

 Peter

  On 24 Nov 2014, at 21:34, Simon Smith he...@simonsmith.co wrote:
 
  Would supporting Fast CGI not be a better way forward?
 
  On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Monte Goulding 
 mo...@sweattechnologies.com
  wrote:
 
 
  On 24 Nov 2014, at 3:29 pm, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
  wrote:
 
  What would it take to make an Apache module for LiveCode?
 
 
  Apache modules themselves don't look all that complicated. As far as LC
  goes as long as you don't support threaded mpms it should be largely a
  matter of handling the request and setting the globals up then passing
  headers and output via the module api rather than stdout.
 
  Cheers
 
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[ANN] LiveCode library for Gnome 3.0 notifications...

2011-05-26 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Folks,

I am now a Fedora 15 user. One of the things that I think are really cool
about Gnome 3.0 (default in Fedora 15) is their new notification system. The
new system is not unlike the ones found in Android or WebOS phones (it is
more like WebOS). I just created a minimal wrapper around their notification
system. So anyone using Gnome 3.0 can use this library to send
notifications. Well, you know it is about blending in...

http://andregarzia.com/stacks/lib.aag.gnome3.livecode.

I will eventually add more Gnome 3.0 Love to that library.

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Re: Datagrid, can't delete a line

2011-05-30 Thread Andre Garzia
solved...

for a strange weird reason, I ended up with a duplicate datagrid with the
same name (in the same position) so deleting lines, deleted from one grid
that was on the wrong layer... silly me.

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

 Folks,

 I am facing a strange issue where the datagrid will not honor a deleteline
 command. It appears that if the datagrid has a column behaviour script,
 then, it will ignore commands such as:

 dispatch deleteline to group datagrid 1 with 4

 It will not return or trigger any error but the line will not be deleted.

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Re: Simple Game Server -- request for help

2011-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
try using something along these lines:

1) go with ssh to a shell on your server.

2) use screen

3) launch your cgi script

4) detach.

Your script should stay running... you might need a secondary script or tool
to monitor the first one to see if it fails and then relaunch it.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 wrote:

 Shao Sean wrote:

  if you can run revCGI on your web host you can actually use it to run
 servers (the cgi process does not die) but make sure to check with
 your host that you are within their ToS as they most limit the amount
 of CPU cycles, ram, time, etc...


 How do you launch the Rev CGI engine in a way that keeps it alive after
 it's done processing the startup handler?

 I've even tried using nohup, and all manner of different scripts, and thus
 far have been unable to set up the CGI engine to stay alive, even on my own
 custom server in my office.

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Re: Simple Game Server -- request for help

2011-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote:

  How do you launch the Rev CGI engine in a way that keeps it alive after
 it's done processing the startup handler?


 don't let it finish the startup handler ;-)


Won't apache kill it after some time...




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Re: eBooks and LiveCode

2011-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
eBooks these days basically mean one of the following file formats:

* PDF
* mobi
* nook
* ePub
* amz

These formats can be generated from any tool that can process text data and
binary files. ePub for example is nothing but some xml and html inside a zip
file. LiveCode can't generate those in the sense of creating a stack with
cards as chapters or pages and generating a standalone but it can be used to
create tools that automate the generation of the popular ebook files. So
instead of creating ebooks with LiveCode, you create a tool to create eBooks
with LiveCode

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 7:30 PM, stgoldb...@aol.com stgoldb...@aol.comwrote:




 Like many publishers, we are considering developing a number of our titles
 as eBooks.  I've used LiveCode (RunRev) for many of our projects, including
 CDs in our books, free downloads of built applications from our website, and
 even in the construction of our invoice system.  Does anyone have any ideas
 as whether it would be feasible to use LiveCode as a good means to develop
 eBooks that might be downloaded or read on the Internet (perhaps with some
 form of DRM, so that they cannot easily be pirated)?  Thanks.
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Re: Simple Game Server -- request for help

2011-05-31 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Shao Sean shaos...@wehostmacs.com wrote:

  Won't apache kill it after some time


 the server i was testing with it seem to run fine, but did not run it for
 days though..


oh cool! I learn something everyday... thanks for this!




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Linux Externals...

2011-06-01 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

does anyone knows if the ExternalEnvironmentV3 modified for Linux available
at
http://www.runrev.com/developers/lessons-and-tutorials/tutorials/advanced-linux-externals/
is
still working? I can't build an empty external or one of my previous
externals that used to work.

I receive an error like:

./src/curlexternal.c:136:8: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ before string
constant
./src/curlexternal.c: In function ‘__dummy_function’:
./src/curlexternal.c:136:8: warning: implicit declaration of function
‘getXtable’ [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
./src/curlexternal.c: At top level:
./src/curlexternal.c:145:1: error: ‘EXTERNAL_END_DECLARATION’ undeclared
here (not in a function)
./src/curlexternal.c:145:1: error: expected ‘}’ at end of input

and yes, I am working on a curl external...

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Re: How to obtain browser version in web app?

2011-06-02 Thread Andre Garzia
you can use javascript and do in browser command to get the browser version.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Martin Baxter 
mblivec...@harbourhosting.co.uk wrote:

 On second thoughts I should have had my coffee before replying as you
 are talking about a stack not an irev script and my reply is irrelevant.

 In the revlet case I can't recall if there is a simple way off the top
 of my head. It is possible, but awkward to get the user agent from
 javascript and pass it to the revlet in its startup parameters. Not sure
 if server variables are available inside the revlet itself.

 Sorry for the preceding noise

 Martin Baxter

 On 02/06/2011 09:08, Martin Baxter wrote:
  Hi Kee,
 
  You have to parse out the HTTP_USER_AGENT string yourself I think
 
  This old test script might get you started:
 
  ?rev
  put $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] into tua
  put offset(MSIE,tua) into tie
  put offset(Safari,tua) into tmac
  put offset(Opera,tua) into topera
  put offset(Gecko/,tua) into tgecko
 
  put puser agent:   tua  /p
  put poffset of MSIE:   tie  /p
  put poffset of Safari:   tmac  /p
  put poffset of Opera:   topera  /p
  put poffset of Gecko:   tgecko  /p
  ?
 
  Sample output
 
  user agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17)
  Gecko/20110420 Firefox/3.6.17
 
  offset of MSIE: 0
 
  offset of Safari: 0
 
  offset of Opera: 0
 
  offset of Gecko: 62
 
 
  Probably needless to say that user agent strings aren't standardised.
 
  Martin Baxter
 
 
 
  On 01/06/2011 23:48, Kee Nethery wrote:
  It is possible to get any information about the browser running a web
  based livecode stack? If so, how? Didn't see anything in the
  dictionary.
 
  For example, Safari 5.0.5 or IE 7.2 or anything like that?
 
  Thanks, Kee Nethery



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Re: How to obtain browser version in revWeb app?

2011-06-02 Thread Andre Garzia
what he said!

On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can do this.

 do result = navigator.appName in browser

 at which point the result will contain Microsoft Internet Explorer if
 thats the browser in use.

 result = navigator.userAgent returns..
 ; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
 for the version of IE i'm using.

 there is also result = navigator appVersion which for me returns..
 5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET
 CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0;
 .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)

 Didn't test with firefox, didn't test with chrome since the plugin doesn't
 work there for me. I'm sure there are quite a few other useful items that
 can be queried this way.

 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote:

  I see HTTP stuff in the dictionary for talking to a server and getting
 web
  pages. I don't see a way to query revWeb to ask it what browser it is
  running in.
 
  Kee
 
 
 
  On Jun 1, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 
   I think it's an http thing.
  
   Bob
  
  
   On Jun 1, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Kee Nethery wrote:
  
   It is possible to get any information about the browser running a web
  based livecode stack? If so, how? Didn't see anything in the dictionary.
  
   For example, Safari 5.0.5 or IE 7.2 or anything like that?
  
   Thanks, Kee Nethery
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Re: My first Livecode iOS App with Externals (SQLite) approved!

2011-06-03 Thread Andre Garzia
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 David C. wrote:

 Congrats Andy that really looks good!
 Unfortunately I am unable to try it for you since I'm still using my
 original iPhone which cannot be updated to iOS 4 specs. Drat, drat,
 drat!


 Is that the F-word I hear, fragmentation?

 Golly, the way the lay press tells it that only happens on Linux and
 Android.  :)


everybody knew me as an avid fan of apple products... these days, I don't
want them anymore. I have an iPhone, Android and WebOS phones... much to my
surprise, even though I have the flagship android phone out there (Nexus S),
my personal phone turned out to be Palm Pre 2 running WebOS 2.1, the
hardware is not on par with the nexus or the iphone 4 but the UX on WebOS is
great and even if I am not able to develop with LiveCode for WebOS, I still
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[TEASER] It is Alive! SFTP support in LiveCode

2011-06-06 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

Today, more precisely at 3:03 AM, the SFTP external worked for the first
time and transfered its first file. It was a simple text file called
test.txt whose content was simply YES, but hey, it worked.

The SFTP external is based on libCURL and libSSH2. Right now I managed to
build it only for Mac OS X with x86 processors but I think I am able to
build it for PPC and Linux as well. Windows might be a little tricky since I
am out of a windows machine right now.

The main issue was that the libcurl version that is bundled with Mac OS X
has no SFTP support, so I had to build my own from source and that had
dependencies such as libssh2 and others. After some effort, I could finally
build everything and managed to convince XCode to link statically with them
(XCode kept trying to link with Mac OS X bundled curl library). So after
linking for the first time, it managed to transfer a single text file over
SFTP connection. Right now it is a blocking call till I figure out how to do
callbacks.

There is a silly movie proving it here:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1340110/XcodeSnapz002.mov
or if you want to view it over the web: http://www.vimeo.com/24707584 (it is
waiting in line to be converted right now)

There is still a lot of work to do before releasing this external but we're
now much closer to SFTP support in LiveCode.

This external will be commercial and will probably cost about USD 99 to
cover my costs of developing and the amount of tea I am drinking to calm me
down after working with gdb...

:-D

Now, who among you all is felling like a guinea pig and want to join the
beta tester group? Initial beta will launch for Mac OS X and then Linux,
after that I will worry about Windows.

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Re: Will iOS 5 Beta break usage of LiveCode App testing?

2011-06-07 Thread Andre Garzia
folks,

just a word of warning, Lion installation failed on my machine it is a
macbook pro with intel C2D... be sure to pass the disk utility and repair
your HD before installing, if Lion install finds anything wrong with your HD
it will fail installation.

Andre

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

 I'll be able to tell in a while. The existing Xcode won't set your iOS 5
 device for development, so I'm having to download the new Xcode, then I'll
 know and will report back.


 On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Terry Vogelaar wrote:

  I would like to try iOS 5 beta on my iPod Touch, and I can because I am a
 registered iOS developer. But I also use the iPod for testing apps I make in
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Re: Software Order Processing Service?

2011-06-07 Thread Andre Garzia
I have a paypal solution that will go on sale after I test it some more.
I hope to have a beta available shortly.

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 Trying to setup a paypal subscription system that works with my revIgniter
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Re: Software Order Processing Service?

2011-06-07 Thread Andre Garzia
Actually I need the IPN solution to process the purchases from the Facebook
library, so they are both being done together.

Four things are being developed together since I need them all working
before I can start selling stuff:

* CMS built with RevServer, code named Beluga, this is basically a blogger
clone or mini WordPress. This will serve my website.

* PayPal IPN libraries for RevIgniter. This integrates with Beluga to form a
shopping experience.

* The Social Network Libraries, built for desktop, mobile and server. They
are my first product for sale and will be used inside Beluga.

* SFTP external code named three-legged hippo, this is my second product.  I
need this working because I don't trust FTP and disabled FTP access on my
own server.

So all these go together to form my new presence on the LiveCode community.
And most of those tools are being developed for linux first (go tux go)

I know people are waiting but I am doing this stuff on my spare time.

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 On Jun 7, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

 I have a paypal solution that will go on sale after I test it some more.
 I hope to have a beta available shortly.

 Cheers

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Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
My lion installation failed four times until I managed to boot from other
media and used disk utility to repair the HD, mind you that the HD was
working fine with Snow Leopard.

My machine is a macbook pro with intel core 2 duo and 4GB of RAM. I find the
system slower than with Snow Leopard. Also on a pure aesthetic note, I don't
like the new login screen.

LiveCode appears to be fine here.

Cheers
andre

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:36 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote:

 Hello Sarah,
 Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll bar
 is visible, not the pipe... (?)
 René

 Le 8 juin 2011 à 12:54, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com
 wrote:
  Hello Stephen,
  Some problem with scroll bars... ?!
  René
 
  No René - that is how scroll bars look in Lion.
  And they work in the opposite direction i.e. they are designed for
  trackpad swiping rather than mouse clicking.
 
  Cheers,
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Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Pierre,

The problem here was that my snow leopard dvd was at another place so I had
no way to boot from a different startup disk to recover the main disk... now
it is done.

I advise you to wait till it is released, I just installed DP4 and I don't
think I like it (just for personal reasons, nothing technical)

cheers
andre

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:

 Andre,

 Along the DiskWarrior disk recovery tool always at hand if needed..., i use
 the free SmartReporter disk integrity tool for years and it would perhaps
 help in such cases.

 Lion ?... I did't install its DPs and i suspect i will wait for the final
 public release to test it...

 Best,

 Pierre

 Le 8 juin 2011 à 14:30, Andre Garzia a écrit :

  My lion installation failed four times until I managed to boot from other
  media and used disk utility to repair the HD, mind you that the HD was
  working fine with Snow Leopard.
 
  My machine is a macbook pro with intel core 2 duo and 4GB of RAM. I find
 the
  system slower than with Snow Leopard. Also on a pure aesthetic note, I
 don't
  like the new login screen.
 
  LiveCode appears to be fine here.
 
  Cheers
  andre
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:36 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Sarah,
  Yes I know, but in Lion (like in iOS) only the dark part of the scroll
 bar
  is visible, not the pipe... (?)
  René
 
  Le 8 juin 2011 à 12:54, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :
 
  On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM, René Micout 
 rene.mic...@numericable.com
  wrote:
  Hello Stephen,
  Some problem with scroll bars... ?!
  René
 
  No René - that is how scroll bars look in Lion.
  And they work in the opposite direction i.e. they are designed for
  trackpad swiping rather than mouse clicking.
 
  Cheers,
  Sarah
 
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Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Garzia
I can see the future, and right now I see myself going back to linux very
soon... if LiveCode had RevBrowser support on Linux and a FreeBSD engine, I
would be really happy.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.us wrote:

 On Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:14:12 AM J. Landman Gay wrote:
  On one hand, you can't immediately see
  where you are in the document, but on the other hand, a quick touch
  brings that up and the remainder of the time the scrollbars stay out of
  the way


 Since we're sharing (and it does relate to UI design practices generally,
 so it's not a bad topic) I don't
 like it. I also find it a very surprising decision in light of the fuss
 made over the dirty window
 indicator. I see some inconsistency here, to put it mildly.

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Re: LIVECODE running in LION

2011-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Richmond Mathewson 
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 06/09/2011 07:28 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

 So by that rule, we should have skipped the next three versions of MS
 Office and Server, since Server 2000 and Office 2000? ;-)


 Yeah, well, my experience is that if a product says Microsoft I don't
 even bother to
 check for zeros or not . . . I start finding another way to do things.


truth be said: Microsoft makes great video games, the XBOX 360 is a great
machine for both players and developers but on the other hand, their desktop
computing business well... you know






  Bob


 On Jun 8, 2011, at 11:52 PM, FlexibleLearning wrote:

  Rule of Thumb: Never buy anything with a zero on the end.

 :)

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 Colin Holgate wrote

 My last attempt to install Lion resulted in a drive that is so unhappy
 that
 I can't even format it using Terminal. DiskWarrior makes a little
 chuckling
 sound when I try to use it to see the drive, and Disk Utility has no clue
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Re: [ANN] MobGUI plugin : mobile development aid

2011-06-09 Thread Andre Garzia
JC,

You made my day!!! I tried creating a similar tool to myself but I couldn't.
Your tool is greater than anything I could throw together, I just loved
it

Thank you very much for your dedication!

Cheers
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PS: Now we just need browsers in Android

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 Following a good response after the live demo on livecode.tv, I've posted
 the latest version of the MobGUI plugin.  It's still in it's infancy, so
 feedback is much appreciated!

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Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

2011-06-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I've just reverted back from Lion. I don't have enough space for a dedicated
volume, so, I decided to upgrade my Live Main Development system to lion and
guess what, BETA really means BETA. After it managed to crash the mac with
that fine kernel panic message six times in two or three hours.

After seeing those inovations, I decided that I will avoid Lion, there is
nothing there for me. If Fedora had a decent File transfer program like
Interarchy or Filezilla. If we had RevBrowser for linux, then, I would go
back to Linux and never come back...

:-D

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Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

2011-06-12 Thread Andre Garzia
I don't have any extra info regarding that. Its just that as unix-friendly
developer, I see no advantage in Lion for me. From a user perspective, both
iCloud and Versions are really attractive but I have a heterogeneous
ecosystem here with Macs and Linux machines and Android, WebOS and iOS
machines, so any technology that is Apple only, is not attractive anymore.

For 11 years, I've been an Apple advocate here, I still recommend it to my
friends because I know it is better than Windows and requires less
maintenance but for me, all I need is basically an engine and a terminal,
then, I am happy.

:D

(Pro Tools and FCP have no competition... they are just great)

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:43 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 I'm involved with trying to keep up with Pro Tools and  whatever replaces
 Final Cut Pro - I may have no choice. Also Lion is going to go live soon
 this summer - and I will at least need to check compatibility with anything
 I create.

  Future versions of FCP most certainly will be 'Lion Only' to take
 advantage
 of the best 64 bit situation. Pro Tools is already using 12 cores, and 64
 bit is next.  Correct me if you have other information regarding these.

 sqb

 On 12 June 2011 18:07, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  Folks,
 
  I've just reverted back from Lion. I don't have enough space for a
  dedicated
  volume, so, I decided to upgrade my Live Main Development system to lion
  and
  guess what, BETA really means BETA. After it managed to crash the mac
 with
  that fine kernel panic message six times in two or three hours.
 
  After seeing those inovations, I decided that I will avoid Lion, there is
  nothing there for me. If Fedora had a decent File transfer program like
  Interarchy or Filezilla. If we had RevBrowser for linux, then, I would go
  back to Linux and never come back...
 
  :-D
 
  (but I still root for the BSD engine)
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Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

2011-06-13 Thread Andre Garzia
if you can live with a script launches instead of calling the standalone
directly then you can set some environment variables by hand and then check
the on the startup handler, something along the lines of:

standalone.sh:

#!/bin/bash

export ARGS=$1

./standalone.x86


And then you check for the environment variable called ARGS

2011/6/13 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com

 err, sorry for being unclear. I mean it's a bug as in, it should work as
 you expected. in addition, there's no workaround that i'd know of.


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  Bug in the documentation, or the implementation?
 
  Any workaround to determine if launched facelessly?
 
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  Björnke von Gierke wrote:
 
  bug
 
  On 13 Jun 2011, at 14:41, Richard Gaskin wrote:
 
  As Todd Geist quoted here earlier, in the Dictionary entry for $ it
 says:
 
If you start up the application from the command line (on OS X,
Unix or Windows systems), the command name is stored in the
global variable $0 and any arguments passed on the command line
are stored in numbered variables starting with the $ character.
For example, if you start the application by typing the following
shell command:
 
  myrevapp -h name
 
then the global variable $0 contains myrevapp (the name of the
application), $1 contains -h, and $2 contains name.
 
  In my tests here, it seems this is only partially correct:  $0 contains
 the app name from the command line (myrevapp in their example), but $1
 contains the name portion after the -h option flag, and the flag itself
 does not appear in any $ variable.
 
  I have an app in which I'd like to have two different behaviors,
 depending on whether it's being run from the command-line or as a GUI.
 
  This would be easy if the engine worked as described in the Dictionary
 so I could easily detect if the user launched it with -ui, but it seems
 the option flags are not being passed to the application, though everything
 that doesn't begin with - is.
 
  So my question is two-fold:
 
  1. I've tested this on Windows and Linux and get identical behavior, in
 which the - flags aren't present in the $ vars.  Can anyone here confirm
 this on Linux, Win, or OS X?
 
  2. If this is indeed a documentation bug and what I see in my tests is
 what happens for everyone, how can I determine whether the app was launched
 with -ui or not?
 
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Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

2011-06-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 wrote:

 Mark Schonewille wrote:

  Hi Richard,

 What does the environment function return, if launched with -ui?


 It returns standalone application whether launched with -ui or not.

 @Andre: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd really like to keep things
 simple for the user so I'd prefer not to rely on an additional file if I can
 avoid it.


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Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

2011-06-16 Thread Andre Garzia
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com
 wrote:

 Warren Samples wrote:

  Just to point out, although I'm sure you noticed;  while I do get the
 promised $ vars, which appears to be not
 working for you, the -ui flag is not being stored here, and it seems
 you're interested in getting that. That
 the $ values exist at all would indicate commandline, but it's not
 inconceivable that one might want some
 conditional behaviors based on whether or not the app is running with a
 gui, thus storing the -ui flag could
 be helpful. Such refinement is naturally only useful if the basics can be
 relied on, though :(


 Actually, the $ vars will contain the paths to any files the app is
 launched with in the GUI too, which is why relying on the presence of the $
 vars alone won't work for me since our apps read those values to determine
 which files to open at launch.

 Thanks for confirming what Mark Weider discovered, that flags used by the
 engine (-ui is among the very few that are still used) aren't passed along
 to the app.  It seems other args not used by the engine are passed along,
 however, so we can design our own syntax as needed - quite exciting, in a
 geeky sorta way. :)

 For now it seems I can use the window ID to figure out whether the app is
 launched with -ui; in my testing on all three platforms the window ID of the
 mainstack is 1 when launched with -ui, but not when launched with the GUI.


 Extra bonus points:

 When using R, MySQL, Mongo, and many other apps, I'm in an interactive mode
 in which the app provides its own console UI and its own prompt.

 It may be useful down the road to be able to provide such an interactive
 mode for the command line, but I've been unable to wrap my head around using
 stdin and stdout to do this.  So far, I can only pass args to the app, have
 it process those, and deliver output from them and quit.

 How can I set up my own interactive mode from the command line, and can I
 make a custom prompt to signify to the user that they're in my app?



if you do put in a standalone, it will echo its message to the stdout, so
that gives you output. You can try reading from stdin to see if you can get
keyboard input, never tried though.



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thanks for the tools

2011-06-17 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

This is just a little email to show some appreciation for Ken Ray, Richard
Gaskin, Chipp Walters, Mark Wieder and Jerry Daniels.

Kens XML Lib saved my life many times but what I want to talk right now is
about DropTools. Since I installed it, I became much happier and I am
already thinking about building and sharing new controls. The architecture
is easy and simple just the way it should be. Ken, Drop Tools Rock! (I wish
I could replace LiveCode toolbar with DropTools toolbar and
have a single place to drag controls from)

Yesterday, I dusted up my old G4 and went for source code hunting. I lost a
lot of data some years ago when both my intel machines fried up at the same
time (the main development machine and the main backup clone, two identical
macbooks, both fried). So while I was recovering from my bad Lion
installation, I decided to go back to the G4 to fish for some tools I liked.
The G4 booted fine and Revolution 2.7 launched with GLX2 (I also
found constellation there) man that editor is GREAT, Jerry should really be
proud and Mark too. I've installed the newly patched GLX2 on my Mac and it
is great. Talking about Jerry, there is a little tool that he made that I
think is really great, it is a simple thing but it is really useful and it
is Time Gadget. Time Gadget is a time tracking tool that is compatible with
altToolbar. I used that all the time and will keep using it indefinitely
probably. I think it is a great example of building really useful tools,
Jerry makes products with great usability, I wish he would still maintain
TimeGadget or consider giving it to some developer to maintain, it is a
great tool.

Marks recent work with GLX2 and PowerDebug adds a lot of power to our
development cycle. How many times I wished for some feature to be present in
LiveCode built in debugger... now, most of them are in PowerDebug :-)
Yay!

I've already talked about altToolbar many times but I think many in the
LiveCode community are not aware of it. Chipps altToolbar is to plugins what
DropTools is to controls. Man, so many great plugins. I still use magic
carpet, interface designer and time gadget. I have my own silly plugins as
well thanks to Chipps insight in creating an extensible architecture for
altToolbar.

Well, I got my first contract thanks to Richards beyond the browser article
but that is another tale, right now I am thinking about Devolution toolkit.
It is a simple extensible toolset, not unlike altToolbar with some great
stuff inside. I know Richard still works in it and may release an update
someday but the current Devolution incarnation is very good. The only thing
I miss is an updated form maker... I loose a lot of time building forms in
LiveCode...

During the recent years we had an influx of many new users who never used
these tools, many who are not aware that these tools exist. My advise to the
new guys and gals here is: Grab them, use them!

and to all the authors, you guys rock

Cheers
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datagrid bug? An error has occured in the behavior for the column template

2011-06-17 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I am receiving this message upon opening a stack here: An error has occured
in the behavior for the column template. Handler not found.

If I click the edit script, I am redirected to the revlibrary backscript and
the offending piece is revSetActiveStacks or something similar.

for the visually oriented:
http://andregarzia.com/shots/_-20110617-185906.jpg


In the meanwhile, I am trying to solve it...


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Re: [OT] My first impressions of Chromebook

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
I have mixed feelings about chromebooks. I tend to place them in the same
category of netbooks and then they lose the competition but I know they are
a whole different thing with a different purpose. I just think they should
be cheaper. $250 would be the right price for an online appliance like that.

My own online gizmo is my OLPC XO-1...

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:02 AM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Excellent and thorough review, Chip. thanks.

 On 20 June 2011 02:00, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

  For those of you interested in Google's new, and fascinating Chromebook,
  here's my first thoughts after spending the weekend with one:
 
  http://blog.chipp.com/chromebook-first-impressions/
 
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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netwrote:

 Chipp-

 Monday, June 20, 2011, 3:21:56 PM, you wrote:

  It seems to
  me it would be a good idea for LC or someone else to evaluate what it
 takes
  to export to HTML5.

 Don't know about HTML5 (and maybe Andre can step in and say something
 here as well), but having spent way too much time on rev-HTML
 conversion, I can say that even with Ajax and css file help there are
 some insurmountable problems without serious server-side help. These
 problems fall under the general categories of lack of threading and
 multiuser issues. FastCGI (when available) helps the multithreading
 issue but exacerbates the variable namespace collision problem. Since
 there aren't transactions in HTML you either end up in a situation
 where you don't have persistent variables or multiple users clobber
 each other's variables. Ugly stuff.


been there as well, I am circunventing the problem by not trying to solve
it. Desktop code is not portable to server environment but if you start from
the server point of view from the beggining then it is possible.


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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp,

I tried that but I couldn't build the language tree parser, so I started
coding from the other point, assuming there would be a parser, I started
coding the javascript parts to be used by the parser/converter once it was
done but when I lost my HD I lost basically everything. Both my main machine
and my backup fried at the same time, so, it was lost but it is not hard to
recreate again.

I have a new project now (I still call it revImpossible) but instead of
focusing on translating LC to JS, I am focusing more on the workflow and
helpers and eventually I will get to the translating part.

:-D

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 Well, I talked with Chris. He said he remembers years ago someone built or
 started to build a language tree parser for Rev so they could transcode
 Transcript to another language. Once a Transcript language parser is
 created, you can move it to other languages-- or so the theory goes.

 Chris imagined it would take a couple weeks to do such a thing, assuming
 not
 all tokens were supported, just the main stuff. Of course, language
 conversion is only a small part of the problem. I'm thinking one would want
 to adopt an Open Source set of Javascript controls and convert them to
 DropTools, so they match exactly the look/feel/size of the real thing. Then
 each would have a custom inspector which set the properties and methods.

 And there needs to be some sort of MVC framework put in place (libraries?).
 Still, according to Chris, he believes a lot of what you need to do can all
 be done client-side in Javascript-- at least that's a good place to start.
 I
 can imagine a proof of concept HyperCard like demonstration, with different
 gui widgets and some biz logic, all running local.

 It is food for thought...
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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-20 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I just can't resist, this thread is just too good.

Here is a movie I just recorded:
http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4
http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.webm

As I said, the trick is to start by thinking that you are building a web
page, not a stack. In this little demo video, I show a simple web layout
stack with graphics, patterns, images, text and buttons. RevImpossible
converts this stack to a valid web page. I show the page and the source code
for the page. It is all very clean.

I am not yet converting code of any type, right now my focus is to convert
the layout. After the layout is right, I have a plan about doing the coding
part but don't expect to script a desktop stack and magically have it on the
server, that is not how it will work. My idea is that the stack script will
become a RevServer page. Some controls will RPC back to the server. Right
now I will not attempt conversions into JS.

RevImpossible is just a way to code a whole website from inside LiveCode
IDE, it is not a desktop to web converter. It will make each card into its
own page. It will output stack script and card script as server side
components. It will remove the compile cycle since RevImpossible is powered
by RevOnRockets so it works from inside the IDE itself while you are coding,
you tweek your layout and code and refresh the browser, just that. When
happy, you export the whole thing and upload it.

RevImpossible does not attempt to be a way to build full web portals or make
the new google, it is a quick way to prototype sites and to create small
medium websites.

and no, it is not ready, I named it RevImpossible for a reason, but it is
going places...

I will shortly begin fundraising campaings for this project and others. This
will be a commercial project but those that contribute during the
fundraising for development period will receive big discounts and even full
licenses once it is released. More details to come during the next days...
(I am using RevImpossible to create the RevImpossible page...)

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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp,

You know what? I already have part of the geometry manager somewhat working.
You can see that rectangle graphics, it has a geometry setting for absolute
position on the right side, I use that as a hint that the given object
should have width: 100% instead of its actual width... it is all about
hints

In the movie the graphic fills 100% of the container. The webpage is set to
1000px wide, so the content is centered with a div.

The hard part of geometry is the whole stay 20 pixels from this control
thing... One thing at a time!

I am glad you liked it. :-)

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 Andre,

 Very nice! Of course your challenge will be how to add a geometry manager
 to
 the stack-- and the resulting website! It might be interesting to have it
 pop out a WordPress theme ;-)

 Good stuff for sure. I look forward to hearing more about it.

 On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com
 wrote:

  Folks,
 
  I just can't resist, this thread is just too good.
 
  Here is a movie I just recorded:
  http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4
  http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.webm
 
  As I said, the trick is to start by thinking that you are building a web
  page, not a stack. In this little demo video, I show a simple web layout
  stack with graphics, patterns, images, text and buttons. RevImpossible
  converts this stack to a valid web page. I show the page and the source
  code
  for the page. It is all very clean.
 
  I am not yet converting code of any type, right now my focus is to
 convert
  the layout. After the layout is right, I have a plan about doing the
 coding
  part but don't expect to script a desktop stack and magically have it on
  the
  server, that is not how it will work. My idea is that the stack script
 will
  become a RevServer page. Some controls will RPC back to the server. Right
  now I will not attempt conversions into JS.
 
  RevImpossible is just a way to code a whole website from inside LiveCode
  IDE, it is not a desktop to web converter. It will make each card into
 its
  own page. It will output stack script and card script as server side
  components. It will remove the compile cycle since RevImpossible is
 powered
  by RevOnRockets so it works from inside the IDE itself while you are
  coding,
  you tweek your layout and code and refresh the browser, just that. When
  happy, you export the whole thing and upload it.
 
  RevImpossible does not attempt to be a way to build full web portals or
  make
  the new google, it is a quick way to prototype sites and to create small
  medium websites.
 
  and no, it is not ready, I named it RevImpossible for a reason, but it is
  going places...
 
  I will shortly begin fundraising campaings for this project and others.
  This
  will be a commercial project but those that contribute during the
  fundraising for development period will receive big discounts and even
 full
  licenses once it is released. More details to come during the next
 days...
  (I am using RevImpossible to create the RevImpossible page...)
 
  :-D
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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Richard,

That is Fedora 15 running Gnome 3.0. It is very good and it will replace Mac
OS X as my main machine as soon as we get feature parity between the
platforms (revBrowser, I am looking at you).

I am running vanilla Fedora 15, with no tweaks or anything, just the plain
OS. I've installed LiveCode and couple other tools.

:-D



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 wrote:

 Andre Garzia wrote:

  I just can't resist, this thread is just too good.

 Here is a movie I just recorded:
 http://andregarzia.com/movies/**revimpossible.mp4http://andregarzia.com/movies/revimpossible.mp4


 Is that Gnome 3?  Which distro are you using?

 Looks nice.


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Re: Wondering about LC and HTML5

2011-06-22 Thread Andre Garzia
no no no, you are doing it wrong, you need to attack straight away with the
KING the pawns and knights will see the king charging and will follow!

On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 You keep your queen for 15 minutes??? I always use her to take as many
 pawns as I can!!

 Bob


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  PS: I actually very much suck at chess, but my ineptitude with the game
 doesn't stop me from enjoying it.  If anyone wants an easy win just bring a
 board to the next conference - I won't be able to resist, and will likely
 lose my queen in under 15 minutes. :)
 
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Re: LiveCode 4.6.2 released

2011-06-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark,

Just logout from the store and download the trial with no user.

:-D

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, people who DO have an account on the RunRev store website
 are UNABLE to download a trial version. Does anyone know why?

 Don't tell me to make another account. I am already receiving every e-mail
 from the marketing department in 5-fold, I don't need another registration
 with RunRev. I'd like to be able to freely download trials.

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 Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
 KvK: 50277553

 New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here
 http://qery.us/ce

 On 24 jun 2011, at 13:14, Matthias Rebbe wrote:

  Hi,
 
  today i wanted to redownload LiveCode from my account and saw that
 Version 4.6.2 was released. So i thought i would share that info with the
 list.
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: LiveCode 4.6.2 released

2011-06-24 Thread Andre Garzia
Damn you are right the download link was removed!

Argh!

Talking about usability, this is bad.

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Hi Andre,

 How? I don't manage. I see no links to download the files and I'll need a
 trial license.

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 On 24 jun 2011, at 14:40, Andre Garzia wrote:

  Mark,
 
  Just logout from the store and download the trial with no user.
 
  :-D
 
  On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Mark Schonewille 
  m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:
 
  Unfortunately, people who DO have an account on the RunRev store website
  are UNABLE to download a trial version. Does anyone know why?
 
  Don't tell me to make another account. I am already receiving every
 e-mail
  from the marketing department in 5-fold, I don't need another
 registration
  with RunRev. I'd like to be able to freely download trials.
 
  --
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  Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
  Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
  KvK: 50277553
 
  New: Download the Installer Maker Plugin 1.6 for LiveCode here
  http://qery.us/ce
 
  On 24 jun 2011, at 13:14, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  today i wanted to redownload LiveCode from my account and saw that
  Version 4.6.2 was released. So i thought i would share that info with
 the
  list.
 
  Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Amiga OS in 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Andre Garzia
hey I was using a newton up until last year...

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Talk about a device that defied obsolescence!

 Bob


 On Jun 25, 2011, at 7:54 AM, Roger Eller wrote:

  Richmond and Andre may enjoy this.  I just stumbled across this video,
 which
  is a pretty good history lesson of the many variants of Amiga OS.  Then,
 at
  23 minutes into the video is a short review of some original Amiga
  hardware.  I still have my original Amiga 4000 from the 1990's btw.
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=s1RsvEm7UrU#at=148
 
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Re: [OT] Amiga OS in 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Andre Garzia
the newton was under a magazine on the sofa, someone thru a hard suitcase on
top of it, the screen broke but the newton was responsive enough that I was
able to dump all my ROM... now my ROM lives in my MacBook Pro under the
Einstein emulator.

I almost bought a new newton these days, but right now, I have other
priorities.

:-)

Another favorite is Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org ), it would be my desktop
of choice if LiveCode supported it but right now, I don't even dream of
asking for support. It is such a niche platform that no business case can be
made to RunRev to support it. In my ideal world, all my desktops would run
Haiku, my servers would be BSD and my mobiles would be WebOS. Now, have you
guys notices that all my favorites are unable to run the LiveCode engine,
that is why I am locked with macs

one day maybe this will change, but not right now.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Let me guess, you dropped it into a toilet... OH WAIT! It wouldn't fit, now
 would it? LOL! Actually, I was sad to see the newton go. Apple did all the
 RD, and then others came along and improved upon it. Way of the world I
 guess.

 Bob


 On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

  hey I was using a newton up until last year...
 
  On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:
 
  Talk about a device that defied obsolescence!
 
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Re: [OT] Amiga OS in 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Andre Garzia
but but but ... I don't like Lion

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

 Once a Mac user, always a Mac user. What makes you think we will LET you
 leave?? BWAAH HAAH AHAH AHA AHAH HAHAAA!

 Bob


 On Jun 27, 2011, at 2:15 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

  Another favorite is Haiku (http://www.haiku-os.org ), it would be my
 desktop
  of choice if LiveCode supported it but right now, I don't even dream of
  asking for support. It is such a niche platform that no business case can
 be
  made to RunRev to support it. In my ideal world, all my desktops would
 run
  Haiku, my servers would be BSD and my mobiles would be WebOS. Now, have
 you
  guys notices that all my favorites are unable to run the LiveCode engine,
  that is why I am locked with macs
 
  one day maybe this will change, but not right now.


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Re: Snapshot command and non-rect polygon selections?

2011-06-29 Thread Andre Garzia
John

export snapshot from graphic L to file l.png as PNG

will do as you want. No need for coords, just pass the object reference.

best
andre

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM, John Patten johnpat...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi All!

 Is it possible to to use non rectangular shapes when creating snapshots?

 What if I had capture shape like the capital letter L  ...  could I
 create a snapshot out of the outline of the letter L? (That's just an
 example...)

 As I understand it, snapshot only works with four coordinates, the points
 of a rect... or can they work with any group of points on a polygon?

 Thanks in advance!

 John Patten
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Re: Anyone using MobGUI?

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:

 Chipp-

 Sunday, July 3, 2011, 8:30:17 PM, you wrote:

  I can more understand developers protecting scripts when those scripts
 are
  part of tools which don't end up inside the codebase of another
 developer's
  project. For instance it might be a good idea to protect a plugin script
  which acts as a debugger for a project. Even so, I think many are still
  unlocked because mostly folks here are more eager to share how things are
  done, rather than hiding how things are done.

 The only time I ever lock scripts is so I can make annoying nag trial
 versions that are fully functional but otherwise nudge the user in the
 direction of making a purchase. Everything else is wide open so that
 maybe someone can learn something, find ugly code to laugh at, and
 poke around and improve or fix things.


sometimes I am afraid that someone will actually read the code on
RevOnRockets, specially the processrequest handler...

that code is so full of hacks that will make the reader question my sanity.



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Re: [ANN] aagPasswordField DropTool

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
\O/

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

 For his first foray at developing a DropTool, Andre Garzia created
 aagPasswordField, an über-simple DropTool that provides a simple password
 field that you can drag and drop into your stacks.

 You can get the password from the control by getting the
 plaintextpassword
 of it; pressing backspace or delete clears the field.

 You can read more about it here:

  http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/products/aag/aag-pw.irev

 Enjoy!

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 Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
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Re: [ANN] aagPasswordField DropTool

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark,

No clue, but could you try and provide feedback?

Cheers
andre

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Andre,

 Does it work if the input method (or keyboard) is Arabic or Chinese?

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Re: Anyone using MobGUI?

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 And there I thought I was just not able to 'keep up' with
 your brilliant mind!


the only time my mind is brilliant is after 3 pints of rum, just before
falling asleep, then I am brilliant but I never remember...




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  sometimes I am afraid that someone will actually read the code on
  RevOnRockets, specially the processrequest handler...
 
  that code is so full of hacks that will make the reader question my
 sanity.
 
 
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Re: Anyone using MobGUI?

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:25 PM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:


 Andre...:-)

 I would pay money to watch someone drink 3 pints of rum



CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

next conference... please bring a camera to record any brilliance that might
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[TEASER] Google OAuth 2.0 demo screencast

2011-07-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks,

Today I managed to implement Google OAuth 2.0 authorization with LiveCode.
The library is very simple to use, it will authorize you but it will not
help you with the other thousand Google APIs. All it does is authorize
access to protected resources, you then access those resources using the
normal API for the given resource passing along the authorization code you
received.

To show it working, I have a little webcast where I use the library to
access my Google Contacts data. The Google Contacts API will return an XML
with the contacts.

http://andregarzia.com/shots/shell-20110705-1.webm
http://andregarzia.com/shots/shell-20110705-1.mp4

This OAuth 2.0 library is a part of my soon to be released Social Networks
Library Suite. Most of Google services are already available thru OAuth
2.0. The new Google+ service has no API right now but Google will provide
one soon and it will be available thru OAuth 2.0 (all new Google APIs are).

The social network library suite will be dual licensed. Open Source
developers can use the library for FREE provide they abide by GPL rules.
Developers wishing to close their source will be able to buy a commercial
license.

The initial offering will (probably) be:

lib.aag.json
BSD License
A simple library for converting JSON to Revolution Arrays

lib.aag.google
GPL  Commercial
An OAuth 2.0 authorization library for Google Services

lib.aag.facebook
GPL  Commercial
An OAuth 2.0 authorization library for Facebook along a minimal wrapper to
help with their API

I will soon start a little fundraising campaing to help me develop these and
other libraries further.

Stay Tunned!
Andre Garzia
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Re: [ANN] aagPasswordField DropTool

2011-07-05 Thread Andre Garzia
Chipp,

I will add bullet support there, I decided against it on the first version
because bullets were not displaying correctly on my linux machine. I will
add a little switch the platform there.

:-D

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 Thanks Andre and Ken.

 Andre, I have a version which uses bullets rather than asterisks, if that's
 at all valuable to you.

 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Ken Ray k...@sonsothunder.com wrote:

  For his first foray at developing a DropTool, Andre Garzia created
  aagPasswordField, an über-simple DropTool that provides a simple password
  field that you can drag and drop into your stacks.
 
  You can get the password from the control by getting the
  plaintextpassword
  of it; pressing backspace or delete clears the field.
 
  You can read more about it here:
 
   http://droptools.sonsothunder.com/products/aag/aag-pw.irev
 
  Enjoy!
 
  Ken Ray
  Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
  Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
  Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
 
 
 
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Re: [ANN] aagPasswordField DropTool

2011-07-05 Thread Andre Garzia
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Richard Gaskin
ambassa...@fourthworld.comwrote:

 Andre Garzia wrote:

  I will add bullet support there, I decided against it on the first version
 because bullets were not displaying correctly on my linux machine. I will
 add a little switch the platform there.


 I hope your luck with making bullet chars in Linux is better than mine:
 http://quality.runrev.com/**show_bug.cgi?id=9464http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9464
 

 If you find a way to do it reliably please let me know.


Richard, I was going to try with a bullet PNG using the imagesource
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Re: defining and using globals in an application

2011-07-08 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I don't really know what the thread is about but since we're talking about
globals, I decided to share my own methodology regarding them.

I use globals in some stacks, specially the ones that are not plugins or
tools that will be used elsewhere. In my little app stacks, I tend to use
globals to share data because it is really easy but instead of using
multiple globals for multiple values, I will have a single global variable
per application and this variable will be a multi level array. So if my
application stack is called recipe app, I will have a global called
gRecipeAppA and that will be an array, values will be inserted, queried for
and deleted from this single shared array and collision will be avoided by
naming it something almost unique.

:-)

that is how I do it... =)
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Re: Free App for Mac: discoapp

2011-07-09 Thread Andre Garzia
I purchased Disco when it first launched eons ago, till today is my favorite
CD/DVD burning tool...

=)

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:

 You need to enter FREE DISCO as the user name when registering.


 On Jul 9, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Roger Eller wrote:

  It prompts for a registration code every time it launches, even if I
 input
  the free code from the website.
  Has anyone else had this problem?


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Re: [Android] Why so quiet? Who's developing Android apps?

2011-07-09 Thread Andre Garzia
I am waiting for webview support ...

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Andy Henshaw hens...@me.com wrote:

 I started a port of an iOS app to Android,  but it stalled when I hit the
 lack of native scrollbar support.

 There are a few ways to do it in code,  but none were smooth enough on the
 devices I have.  Once scrollbars are supported Ill be straight onto the
 platform!

 Andy



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  Just wondering if I am alone... echo... echo...  ;-)
 
  What are your plans or aspirations regarding the Android platform and
  LiveCode?  Those of you who build for iOS, are you also building your
 apps
  for Android?  Are the capabilities you need present in the latest version
 of
  LiveCode?
 
  I am still happy that RunRev added Android to our toolbelt, but where is
 the
  community? How about a show of hands if you are using it, and if not,
 please
  share with us why.
 
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[ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-09 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks,

It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here. Those
that accessed my home page recently knew that it was not being updated
often, actually, it was not being updated at all. I always wanted to
recreate everything with LiveCode and now I've did it. I started yesterday,
Friday and after a little more than 24h I've got a brand new website. This
is a testimonial of how easy it is to build web stuff with the new LiveCode
Server.

This new page will serve as a hub for all my new developments and I plan to
release many many many things during the next days and weeks. I welcome
feedback and comments.

http://andregarzia.com

=)


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change. Since I am the developer and the user, I don't need an
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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Thanks Chipp and Marian!

=)

During the next days, I will add a lot more to the site, so stay tunned. :-)

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:31 AM, Chipp Walters ch...@chipp.com wrote:

 Looks good Andre!

 On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Marian Petrides, M.D. 
 mpetri...@earthlink.net wrote:

  Very nice, Andre!
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:05 PM, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
 
   Hello Folks,
  
   It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here.
  Those
   that accessed my home page recently knew that it was not being updated
   often, actually, it was not being updated at all. I always wanted to
   recreate everything with LiveCode and now I've did it. I started
  yesterday,
   Friday and after a little more than 24h I've got a brand new website.
  This
   is a testimonial of how easy it is to build web stuff with the new
  LiveCode
   Server.
  
   This new page will serve as a hub for all my new developments and I
 plan
  to
   release many many many things during the next days and weeks. I welcome
   feedback and comments.
  
   http://andregarzia.com
  
   =)
  
  
   For those that want to know, this homepage is driven with LiveCode
  Server.
   It uses RevIgniter Framework. It uses no database at all, the pages are
  all
   text files with HTML and special syntax in it. Keeping it simple
 allowed
  me
   to deliver a full website in less than 24h. The site is easy to extend
  and
   change. Since I am the developer and the user, I don't need an
   administration interface, I can create pages by simply dropping plain
  text
   files in the correct place and tweek things by editing special files.
  
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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote:

 Hi Andre,

 Am 10.07.2011 um 06:05 schrieb Andre Garzia:

  Hello Folks,
 
  It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here.
 Those
  ...
  http://andregarzia.com

 nice stock photos :-)


yes they are from stockexchange... :-)





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Re: Looking for a besta tester

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark,

Argh, I should have read that some days ago. I just upgraded to iOS 4

Cheers
andre

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Mark Schonewille 
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've just created an app for LiveCode programmers. I'm looking for someone
 with an old iPhone and iOS 3.x. Is anyone willing to test? I'll give you the
 app for free when it is released.

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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Alex,

This might be some javascript bug here, I will try to fix it. I miss it too.

Cheers
andre

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:

 To echo what others have said  good looking site with great content.

 One query - normally I can use cmd- to go back to previous page (Chrome on
 Mac), but cannot do that on your site. Is that something you are
 deliberately preventing ?  (and if so, why ?)
 if not, is it something easily reinstated ?  (I really miss it)

 -- Alex.


 On 10/07/2011 05:05, Andre Garzia wrote:

 Hello Folks,

 It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here.
 Those
 that accessed my home page recently knew that it was not being updated
 often, actually, it was not being updated at all. I always wanted to
 recreate everything with LiveCode and now I've did it. I started
 yesterday,
 Friday and after a little more than 24h I've got a brand new website. This
 is a testimonial of how easy it is to build web stuff with the new
 LiveCode
 Server.

 This new page will serve as a hub for all my new developments and I plan
 to
 release many many many things during the next days and weeks. I welcome
 feedback and comments.

 http://andregarzia.com

 =)


 For those that want to know, this homepage is driven with LiveCode Server.
 It uses RevIgniter Framework. It uses no database at all, the pages are
 all
 text files with HTML and special syntax in it. Keeping it simple allowed
 me
 to deliver a full website in less than 24h. The site is easy to extend and
 change. Since I am the developer and the user, I don't need an
 administration interface, I can create pages by simply dropping plain text
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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Thanks Guys!


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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page.

2011-07-10 Thread Andre Garzia
Thanks

Did you saw your page on the links? =)

Hope all is well over there!

Cheers
andre

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:32 PM, David Beck david_b...@rotundasoftware.com
 wrote:

 Looks awesome Andre!! Congrats!!

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 Hello Folks,

 It is full of joy and pride that I announce my website redesign here.
 Those
 that accessed my home page recently knew that it was not being updated
 often, actually, it was not being updated at all. I always wanted to
 recreate everything with LiveCode and now I've did it. I started
 yesterday,
 Friday and after a little more than 24h I've got a brand new website. This
 is a testimonial of how easy it is to build web stuff with the new
 LiveCode
 Server.

 This new page will serve as a hub for all my new developments and I plan
 to
 release many many many things during the next days and weeks. I welcome
 feedback and comments.

 http://andregarzia.com

 =)


 For those that want to know, this homepage is driven with LiveCode Server.
 It uses RevIgniter Framework. It uses no database at all, the pages are
 all
 text files with HTML and special syntax in it. Keeping it simple allowed
 me
 to deliver a full website in less than 24h. The site is easy to extend and
 change. Since I am the developer and the user, I don't need an
 administration interface, I can create pages by simply dropping plain text
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I am speculating here but if the attacker just go some of the accounts then
it is possible that the attacker hacked into some of the on-rev servers but
not all of them, then, just the users on those machines were compromissed. I
did not change my password, I am still deciding if I will do it or not.

Again, if you have a need for utmost security, you should not be on shared
hosting, you need to me on your own box on co-location with security experts
on payroll. If you are on shared hosts, then, by default, you are subject to
such attacks.

Cheers
andre
PS: I have a lifetime on-rev account and am happy with it. I also have a VPS
(it is as good as I can pay) for more sensitive stuff and I have one or two
linodes.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Marian Petrides mpetri...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I am an On-Rev lifetime subscriber but don't recall getting this message.
  So it must be something else, I guess.

 On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

  I have received it. It's probably legit. I don't see any links to a site
 to authenticate, so what would anyone gain by telling you to change your
 password?
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote:
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  Have any of you received this message from Heather?  Implications?
 
  Gregory
 
 
  Dear Gregory Lypny,
 
  I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on
 our customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that
 some information may have been compromised. A small number of accounts were
 affected, unfortunately yours was one of them.
 
  The information concerned includes your name, email address, on-rev
 username and the server you are hosted on. It does not include your
 password, or any postal address or billing information. This information
 alone does not represent a security risk. However, if you have any concerns
 at all that your password for your on-rev account is not secure, you should
 change it immediately. cPanel offers a secure password generator that
 includes numbers and punctuation in a random string, we strongly advise you
 use this service.
 
  We deeply regret this breach of our security procedures.  We felt it
 important to inform you of it as quickly as possible as a precautionary
 measure.
 
  We have already traced and fixed the exploit that made this possible
 and can assure you that the same error will not happen again in the future.
 
 
  Regards,
 
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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:03 PM, SparkOut sparkout...@gmail.com wrote:

 The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any
 hacker
 at accessing your (our) password information.

 BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
 have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be
 harder
 to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
 future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.


You are actually correct I will change it to something awfully large
completely random... argh haven't thought about brute force attacks





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Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:

 I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best
 for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe
 by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are
 always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-)


I used http://strongpasswordgenerator.com/ to generate mine... :-)



 Best, Pierre

 Début du message réexpédié :

  The advice to change password was *not* because of any success by any
 hacker
  at accessing your (our) password information.
 
  BUT because the hacker now has username and on-rev domain name, *if* you
  have a weak password it would be wise to change it to one that may be
 harder
  to try and attack by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the
  future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack.

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Re: [ANN] AndreGarzia.Com new web page

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Alejandro Tejada
capellan2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Andre,

 Your new website looks great!
 Congratulations!

 Only one question:
 Does it really took 24 hours? :-)



Alejandro,

It actually took less than 24h... I will write a little journal on how it
was built shortly.

:-)





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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-12 Thread Andre Garzia
oh great

A friend of a friend here is selling a dual core G5... I am thinking about
snatching it, I have a long love for PPC machines, my favorite laptop for
work is my G4 even though I own a 2009 macbook pro, this intel machines fell
a little souless to me. My previous intel machine is giving signs of
breaking, the intel machine before that broke twice... My two G4 machines
are alive and kicking, my iMac G4 works great I am thinking about
picking this dual G5... :-)

PS: this is specially interesting because I don't like Lion so I will be
staying with snow leopard/leopard for a while

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:52 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 Unless something has changed, I think the package is still uiniversal. My
 main machine was a G5 up until a couple of months ago an Livecode ran
 fine

 On 12 July 2011 18:38, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:

  Hey Folks,
 
  I am not keeping track of the universality of LiveCode engines, what is
 the
  latest version able to run on a G5 machine?
 
  Cheers
  andre
 
 


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New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

The blog is now live and has its first useful post.

http://andregarzia.com/blog

You can see a little journal on the decisions behind the system that drives
my new website by going to:

http://andregarzia.com/page/bootstrappingacms

It is a long read but it is useful for those trying to understand.

Hope you guys like, any feedback is appreciated.

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Re: New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:55 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote:

 Wow !! Impressive !


If you read it then please give me some feedback! :-)




 Le 13 juil. 2011 à 09:47, Andre Garzia a écrit :

  Folks,
 
  The blog is now live and has its first useful post.
 
  http://andregarzia.com/blog
 
  You can see a little journal on the decisions behind the system that
 drives
  my new website by going to:
 
  http://andregarzia.com/page/bootstrappingacms
 
  It is a long read but it is useful for those trying to understand.
 
  Hope you guys like, any feedback is appreciated.
 
  Cheers
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Re: New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:19 AM, René Micout rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote:

 Hello Andre,
 Your work is not mine (music / interface) and I do not have enough time to
 read closely (and translate in French to understand all the subtleties of
 about).
 I just wanted to express my admiration for the work even if I do not
 understand the very substance (la substantifique moëlle disait Rabelais)...
 Bravo (again !)
 Bon souvenir de Paris
 René


Thanks for the kind words René!!!

I am just giving back to the community that has given me so much! :-)

Bonsoir my friend

PS: Its 5:26 AM in here... off to bed! :-)




 Le 13 juil. 2011 à 10:00, Andre Garzia a écrit :

  On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:55 AM, René Micout 
 rene.mic...@numericable.comwrote:
 
  Wow !! Impressive !
 
 
  If you read it then please give me some feedback! :-)
 
 
 
 
  Le 13 juil. 2011 à 09:47, Andre Garzia a écrit :
 
  Folks,
 
  The blog is now live and has its first useful post.
 
  http://andregarzia.com/blog
 
  You can see a little journal on the decisions behind the system that
  drives
  my new website by going to:
 
  http://andregarzia.com/page/bootstrappingacms
 
  It is a long read but it is useful for those trying to understand.
 
  Hope you guys like, any feedback is appreciated.
 
  Cheers
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Re: New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I've just added comments to the blog system by using Disqus.com I think it
works and it is easier than writting my own.

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Re: what is the last LiveCode version to run on G5?

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM, stephen barncard 
stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote:

 I'm keeping my G5 for a long time...
 yeah, Panther was a lot of cats ago...


Hey I had a working G3 and a Newton until last year when someone sat on my
newton and someone moved my G3 to a damp place and it destroyed the
screen...

my G4s are working really well...

I miss how well built those things were, they just seem to last longer than
the current intel machines.




 On 13 July 2011 08:51, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote:

  Stable little things aren't they?
 
  Bob
 
 
  On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:18 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:
 
   oh great
  
   A friend of a friend here is selling a dual core G5... I am thinking
  about
   snatching it, I have a long love for PPC machines, my favorite laptop
 for
 

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Re: New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-13 Thread Andre Garzia
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Keith Clarke 
keith.cla...@clarkeandclarke.co.uk wrote:

 ...so after your epic 'le Mans, 24-hour' CMS coding challenge, you didn't
 fancy the Brazilian Grand-prix challenge to code a comments mgt. system in
 2.5-hours? ;-)


comment system would require a database or some clever engineering of text
files and folders (like old fido boards), I opted for a cost effective
solution... Brazilian Cheating :-)


 Best,
 Keith..

 On 13 Jul 2011, at 18:18, Andre Garzia wrote:

  Folks,
 
  I've just added comments to the blog system by using Disqus.com I think
 it
  works and it is easier than writting my own.
 
  :-)
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Re: Fun DropTool

2011-07-14 Thread Andre Garzia
paraphrasing his Steveness: you are holding it wrong! try holding the
phone upside down...

(joking)

On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM, John Craig j...@splash21.com wrote:

 I've discovered that the head ( an oval graphic with startAngle = 0 and
 arcAngle = 180 ) gets displayed upside down on my android simulator, so the
 head is merging in with the body.  If I change the startAngle to 180 then
 the effect is reversed: no head in the IDE, but I can see it in the
 simulator.  I wonder what's different in Jacque's setup that it works - Any
 clues, Jacque??  I'll file a bug report.


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Re: [OT} Re: New post detailing the technology and decisions behind my new website

2011-07-14 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey,

I am here. That is my primary account that I use everyday. Strange.

If you can't email me at that account, please send it to soapdog at mac dot com.

Cheers
Andre

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 14, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote:

 Sorry for using the list for this 
 
 Andre - I tried to email you some feedback, initially to 
 an...@andregarzia.com which gave me a mail delivery failure of no such 
 person at this address.
 
 I then tried cont...@andregarzia.com (as specified in the Contact page of the 
 site),and that too failed with the same error.
 
 -- Alex.
 
 On 13/07/2011 08:47, Andre Garzia wrote:
 Folks,
 
 The blog is now live and has its first useful post.
 
 http://andregarzia.com/blog
 
 You can see a little journal on the decisions behind the system that drives
 my new website by going to:
 
 http://andregarzia.com/page/bootstrappingacms
 
 It is a long read but it is useful for those trying to understand.
 
 Hope you guys like, any feedback is appreciated.
 
 Cheers
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New blog post: setting up Livecode server at Dreamhost VPS

2011-07-18 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks,

I know people struggled with this in the past:

http://andregarzia.com/page/dreamhostps

Showing how I setup Livecode Server on a Dreamhost VPS. The usual method did
not work there so I had to go extra miles to make it work.

Cheers
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Re: revmpossible?

2011-07-18 Thread Andre Garzia
Mark,

It was not a joke but it is not a replacement for the web plugin. I am
working on the social networking libraries and the CURL external first. I
will only resume work on revImpossible when those are more or less working.

revImpossible is a way to create websites from inside LiveCode IDE using
LiveCode Server + RevIgniter. It allows you to design your site using stacks
and it will generate HTML/CSS/JS and more from your stacks but it is not a
replacement for the webplugin, you can't pick a normal stack and pass it
thru it. It is made to create sites and not to convert stacks to the web.

:-)

I will try to post a video of the prototype working this weekend.

Cheers
andre


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 Hey Andre,

 When do you think you'll be posting your new and incredible revimpossible
 on
 your new (and impressive) website.   In the back of my mind I fear that it
 was all a joke and that's why you called it revimpossible, but for those of
 us who have all but given up on a working web plugin, you have given use
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Re: [ANN] revIgniter v1.4b

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Ralf,

For now I think its better to have two links, one for 1.4 and one for
1.3.latest because people on On-Rev will not transition to the new engine
for a while and there are a lot of guys out there using RevServer. I think
it is better to offer both branches while the engine is in pre-release.

:-)

Cheers
andre


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 revIgniter v1.4b has been released.

 This is the first version which respects the latest
 engine changes (LiveCode server version 4.6.3).
 Lots of adjustments were made and the whole
 Encrypt library is revised.

 Keep in mind that this version is not compatible with
 revServer (engine versions before LiveCode server 4.6.3).

 Info and download at: http://www.revigniter.com/



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Re: ANN: LiveCodeErrors for iPhone

2011-07-19 Thread Andre Garzia
Using try/catch blocks, fiddling with the exception and throwing it again is
a guaranteed form to destroy the errordialog window.

2011/7/19 Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com

 I think one way to fuck up the error dialog is to supress messages when
 closing stacks by script, and then an error happens. At least this was a
 case I had about 3 years ago. There migth have been other particular
 settings or behaviour that triggered it, I don't remember exactly.

 And Rev error reporting is ass in general, not only when it fails to work
 as intendet :P

 On 19 Jul 2011, at 17:55, Richard Gaskin wrote:

  Mark Schonewille wrote:
 
   Richard,
  
   Since you are a professional LiveCode programmer, just like me,
   I know that you know that one may see an error code of the form
   ###,###,###, once in a while, where # is a number and x is
   a letter. Seeing this error isn't necessarily a LiveCode bug.
   I have no idea why you assume it is.
 
  True, the format you describe is what the engine outputs when errors are
 encountered, sent as the argument to the errorDialog message.
 
  But the IDE's revBackScript includes an errorDialog handler which
 translates that into a conveniently readable form, also made available for
 inclusion in standalones in the Standalone Builder.
 
  Given that RunRev provides this lookup automatically, no one should ever
 see the raw error data in either the IDE or a standalone.
 
  If they do it means the errorDialog handler either wasn't triggered
 properly, or is somehow failing itself.
 
  So my interest is in identifying a recipe in which an errorDialog message
 is sent but the info is being displayed in raw form rather than the more
 readable format LiveCode normally provides.
 
 
   For further questions and comments on this product, you are welcome
   to contact me off-list.
 
  My question here was about the perception that LiveCode isn't reporting
 errors correctly.  If I have questions about your product I'll write you
 off-list.
 
  --
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