Re: slightly OT: how to search amazon?
Chris - That's definitely against Amazon's rules of use unless you are displaying an item for sale on Amazon. Also, you do need to be an Amazon associate to use the info at all. Tim On Jul 12, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Hope no one minds if I ask this here. I'm having a hard time finding much in my searches for how to do this. Does anyone know how one would go about searching for product info on amazon.com via a custom url? If I wanted to include a search in an app by using isbn, key words, etc., what's the best way to do that? I've found information on how to create a search url, but that just loads a search results page, viewable in a browser. Is there a way to modify the url so that it grabs some nicely formatted search results, rather than html for a web page that has to be parsed to get the info I need? Mostly what I'm trying to do is look up info on books, movies, tv shows, or other products and display relevant information to the user (i.e. author, title, actors, series, etc.). Thanks, Chris ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: Tidbits from Jersey
On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Just remember What happened in the Oval Room, stays in the Oval Room ! Uhh, that only applies in Washington, DC. ;-) Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Yet Another Sound Problem in iOS
Could she have the Side Switch set to Mute and turned on? Tim On Jun 29, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Roger Guay wrote: OK, what the heck is going on now? My iOS app plays a sound in the simulator and my iPad 3 but not in my wife's (identical) iPad 3. Everything else works just fine in all three environments! Any help please? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCodeOnline [Was: Re: Rev Online]
Not what I meant - it's easy to miss reports in a feedback system. I was asking if you've contacted one of the staff directly. Much harder to miss such a request. Tim On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Yes, but even if they had not, they posted to the quality center which is actually where they are supposed to. They are saying that no response has come to those posts. It would be better if someone came back and said, We really do not have time at present to address this issue. or else, We plan on fixing that within the next six months. Bob On Jun 20, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I don't mean to play Obvious Man here, but has anyone actually contacted Heather, et al and asked for it to be fixed? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LiveCodeOnline [Was: Re: Rev Online]
I don't mean to play Obvious Man here, but has anyone actually contacted Heather, et al and asked for it to be fixed? Tim On Jun 20, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- You are, I think, missing the point. The issue is more about announcing a new initiative, getting users started down that path, and then abandoning things. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Question About About Screens
On Jun 18, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Roger Guay wrote: my iOS app loads fairly quickly so I would like my Splash screen to stay up longer. Any way to do that? I see no harm and much benefit to an app that lets people get to work instantly. Rather than hamper the experience by introducing an unnecessary wait, why not just make that an About screen and let your users enjoy the instant load time? Except that Roger's question was How to do it, not Why or Why Not do it :-). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Long Name peculiarities
On Jun 19, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Whoa! You can use a single letter as a function name?? I thought that was strictly verboten! I see once more I am mistaken. Yep - and you can use variables like AA, b1, ae, c, e3 - just like in Commodore BASIC ;-). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Question About About Screens
On Jun 18, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Roger Guay wrote: my iOS app loads fairly quickly so I would like my Splash screen to stay up longer. Any way to do that? Make your first stack card look the same as your provided load image and then time that before moving on to your app's first real window. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Microsoft Tablet Event in LA Just Wrapped
On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Scott- Monday, June 18, 2012, 5:06:24 PM, you wrote: From touch to type, office to living room, from your screen to the big screen, you can see more, share more, and do more with Surface. http://www.surface.com Gotta love the fine print, no? Works exclusively with apps from the Windows Store. No worse than Works exclusively with from the iOS App Store. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Another Question About About Screens
On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:54 PM, Roger Guay wrote: Thanks, Tim. I found another way as well: Just put a wait function in the openStack script. That works as well. My thought was that you could do something further such as a small animation on the Splash card (a lens flare on your logo, for example) before getting into the meat of your app. Some times, it's those small, useless things that provide the perception that your users remember. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: GLX2 3.05
On Jun 14, 2012, at 8:29 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Unless anyone's password is 12345 Hey, that's the same password as my luggage! (sorry, Mel, I couldn't resist) Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: An iMac Screen Problem ?..
What an outstanding photo record! Thanks for sharing, Stephen! Tim On Jun 14, 2012, at 6:55 PM, stephen barncard wrote: third page with no light leak.. sorry for the goof. http://barncard.com/bookerT/proofs/PROOF%20SHEET-0003.jpg On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 6:54 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: sorry bad link http://barncard.com/bookerT/proofs/PROOF%20SHEET-0001.jpg http://barncard.com/bookerT/proofs/PROOF%20SHEET-0002.jpg ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: An iMac Screen Problem ?..
Holy memory dump, Batman! Kilt's tape. That's something I've not thought of since the early 70's. We used Kilt's at the radio station I interned at in Savannah (back when being an intern meant learning the trade, not just getting coffee and cigs). Tim On Jun 14, 2012, at 6:54 PM, stephen barncard wrote: sorry bad link http://barncard.com/bookerT/proofs/PROOF%20SHEET-0001.jpg http://barncard.com/bookerT/proofs/PROOF%20SHEET-0002.jpg ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Standalone Question
On Jun 14, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Roger Guay wrote: Hi folks, My first iOS app is going well. It works quite well on the simulator and my iPad. However the standalone has a standard Do Not icon . . . the circle with a diagonal bar. Any suggestions as to what that is about and how to remedy? Roger, Do you mean the app has that icon on your Mac? If so, that's the be expected. The iOS devices use an ARM processor, not an x86 processor. It will be fine on the real device. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Crashing documentation on Linux #2
I got in at $9.40 at the end of the Scully days. Wish I'd not sold when it reached $24 ... but who would have though that it would got the heights t's at now? Tim On Jun 11, 2012, at 3:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: You may be right, but remember that Apple's share price was at $12 at the time. So, many thought OSX wasn't important then. It never got down to $12 in the dark days. I was waiting for $13.50, figuring it would be taken over for liquidation at about $20. I was going to put $5k in retirement funds into it. It never dropped below $14. Then they acquired Jobs in a merger. Today's price is after a pair of stock splits. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
On May 30, 2012, at 1:00 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: 3 times I had tape backups fail me when I needed them most. I will never, no ever, no not ever use tape again. Bob I can feel your pain as we hear nightmare stories all the time, but I would be willing to bet a case of your favorite beer that the problem was your software, not you tape or tape drive (unless your tapes were physically damaged). Maybe you should try a different backup application. I've been doing this stuff for almost 30 years (I was part of the hardware design team for Archive) and I've not once seen a tape (any type - QIC, DAT, DLT, AIT, VXA, LTO, and others) fail due to anything short of physical damage when the backup software wasn't the real problem. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion - backups
And ... what do you do if part of your failure instance includes a lack of network connectivity? No way back from that one. Just saying... Tim On May 31, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: OIC that makes sense then. I priced out some of these online backup systems like Carbonite, and by the time you pay as much as a 2 tb drive with enclosure would cost, you could have paid for a 5 year subscription to Carbonite. 5 years is as much as you can expect a drive that is used for Time Machine to go. Mine is on the verge of crapping out, so I am considering just paying for an online backup instead. Trouble is, full backup and restore is s l o w . The next tier though has a local drive backup as well as the online backup. Bob On May 31, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: bob, alternate drive is for redundancy if a drive were ever to poop out and I keep one off site or in a firesafe if here as well for the theft/fire issue. I learned this thru a friend who had a very redundant backup system. only problem was not good about offsite and there was a fire in the office took out everything with fire, heat, smoke, and water damage... another friend had his laptop and the backup drive attached (only one) stolen from his home -- again SOL. also ive had a couple of drives go by a head coming loose and that pretty much leaves you with nothing to recover... main drive system is a redundant raid as well. few hundred buck investment over the years gives me a nice safety net and this system has spun along fine now for 5 years w/o any hickups due to the drives. my experience with backup systems has been total murphy's law. watching a few other folks trying to recover from a data disasters has taught me as they all took huge number of hours (translate that to work hours lost), bucks in data recovery efforts, and im sure a few weeks of their life expectancy... over the years ive dealt with most kinds of tape and cartridge backup systems as well with clients and companies ive worked with and most have worked but talk about a pain to reconstruct, was rarely easy or fast, hence when drives got cheap enough i moved fast! cheers jeff On May 31, 2012, at 3:33 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Should not need to alternate drives with Time Machine. Bob ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
On May 31, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: 2 weeks. ;-) Hey Bob, I didn't know that you were an engineer, too! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
On May 29, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Having got a little used to Lion I then felt better about trying out Mountain Lion. My current setup is that I have 10.8 on my internal SSD, and still have 10.7.4 on the external SSD. I still need that because under 10.8 you can't publish iOS apps, as it's using the prerelease Xcode 3.4. With this setup I am able to run, as an example, Mail, Safari, Xcode, Director, Flash, LiveCode, Parallels, and IE and SketchUp under Parallels, all without any slowing down on my 4GB MacBook Air. I can get by with that! I still using spinning disk, but I'm also very happy with 10.7 on all of my Intel Macs (still at 10.5.8 on the PPCs for obvious reasons). My Mac Book Air and 13 MBP both have 4GB and run CS6, FCP X, Logic Pro, LC, Pages/Numbers/Keynote, and my astronomy apps very well. Of course, I wouldn't try editing a 2 hour feature without adding a big Thunderbolt array, but otherwise, I'm not witnessing slowdowns or crashes. One tip - turn off Spotlight. I've found that the mdimport daemon spikes - even on my Mac Pros - every time I save a file in LC or one of the NLE apps. I connected a pair of 64GB SDXC cards from the Indy this morning and my 8 Proc, 16GB Mac Pro proceeded to present me with the SPBBOD for almost 5 minutes. Luckily, I always flip the write-protect switch on the cards when I ingest, so I just yanked the USB cable. I've now been a very bad boy and removed the metadata entries from the launchd realm and shut that thing down completely. I DON'T recommend that you do this, but since I use other tools to manage both my code and my footage / clips, it was just another layer of cruft for me. Oh, and don't get me started on Time Machine (it's also removed)... Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
They made the change because it's more like moving the page with your finger on the iPad/iPhone. You want the page to move up - you flick up, move down, flick down. This is the exact opposite of the old scrollwheel way where you moved the scrollbar thumb, not the contents. Also, once you get the hang of it and toss your mouse for a trackpad, you'll wonder why it was EVER the old way. Heck, I've even gotten used to it on an old mighty mouse and the vibrating nipple. Tim On May 29, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Yes, I think the problme is with the mouse wheel. At the risk of being accused of being to set in my ways, why did Apple change this? It made me feel seasick! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Outlet for Mac Apps
I'm with Andrew. There's noting in the license agreement I agreed to that prevents me from selling somewhere besides the AppStore. That may work for a closed ecosystem like iOS, but Mac users would not put up with that (nor would Mac developers...). Tim On May 29, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Andrew Henshaw wrote: I think the article may have that wrong, you can sell your apps anywhere you want, the MAS is just another outlet. Quite a few developers seem to be switching to Mac App Store only policies (eg Pixelmator) which is their choice, but ive not seen anywhere that is a requirement unless its changed recently. Probably confusion with the iOS store policy. But there's this: Apps distributed in Bodega can be freely sold anywhere else, including the Mac App Store. Apple requires developers to offer paid versions of their apps in the Mac App Store only. If an app is also available on the web, the developer must link to the paid version in the Mac App Store. So if you want your app in MAS then you can only put a free version on Bodega. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
On May 29, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Igor de Oliveira Couto wrote: I've noticed some people complaining about Time Machine in this thread. […] Before the days of Time Machine, we used to have Retrospect in our office, backing up to external drives. Let me assure you: recovering your lost work was *never* this easy. So, in my case, I am quite thankful for Time Machine. I agree that Time Machine can be a life saver is you have nothing else, but do have something else - I use BRU and DAT-160 or LTO-5 tape. I can find any file that I need (or an entire volume) in the same time it takes to scroll through outer space to locate things I'm looking for in Time Machine, and BRU only backs up what I explicitly tell it to. Oh, and BRU doesn't prompt me to use a disk or USB fob every time I plug it in :-). I can take my home tapes to work and my work tapes home and I don't have to treat them like eggs. But, that's the way I've done it for around 27 years... Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Upgrade to Lion
Ugh - these are all mine … On May 29, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Tim Jones wrote: … a life saver if you have nothing else, but I do have something else ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Splash Screen masks display
On May 23, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Graham Samuel wrote: I'm developing an iPad app which has an iOS splash screen (they all do), which AFAIK is there in order to show itself until the app is fully loaded. I am not sure how iOS knows that the load is complete, but anyway I seem to have a problem about this. My app has two stacks: the first has a startup handler that sets things going but is not displayed, and then hands over to the other stack. When the splash screen goes away, I want to show a particular card (say Card1) in the second stack, wait a short time and then move to another card (Card2) to allow the user to start work. I found that if I put a script like this into the first card: on openCard wait 4 seconds go to Card2 end openCard then the splash screen stays around for an extra 4 seconds, and the first thing the user sees is Card 2 - Card 1 is never visible. What did I do wrong and how can I get the result I want? You don't create the splash screen. You provide a static image as part of your bundle and the iOS executive displays it and then hides it once your app is loaded. That part is automatic, not something that you have to code. Check here for details: http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/userexperience/conceptual/mobilehig/IconsImages/IconsImages.html In fact, if you're not creating another Galactic Invaders game, I recommend the UI guideline docs for everyone: http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/userexperience/conceptual/mobilehig/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40006556-CH1-SW1 Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Google alerts
On May 24, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: The middle ground was called webOS it had the following advantages on their developer program: * FREE Devices for Developers, just get in the line, you will get a free device or a huge discount. * No need to pay anything. * Best documentation ever. * Curated app store with the motto I reject because I care * Apps could be distributed out of the store * Embraced open technologies and hacker communities making its developer framework work on other devices such as iPhone and Android. but then it came Leo Apoteker and destroyed Palm The new CEO is way better but it is too late for HP. We should watch Mozilla and Open webOS... those will be pretty popular. I'm hoping that we'll see WebOS ported to other platforms - specifically, I'd love to see it on my old Xoom - Android 3 is getting old and ICS doesn't run properly. I love my HP TouchPad and WebOS (and Android ICS - I dual boot). It's still not an iPad, but it has its own goodness. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Google alerts
On May 24, 2012, at 6:09 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Speaking of Alligators, YOU will be shot if you aren't careful. That's shod… Nope - all 'em 'gators was barefoot. You'll have to find your own. - this is getting very sad... Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can someone please try this test...
On May 23, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: So this came up on another blog recently, where someone posted a youtube of when Pixar *accidentally* deleted Toy Story 2 from their computers by typing in the command to delete all files on the hard drive. Correct me if I am wrong, but don't you have to be an administrator, and don't you have to sudo that command? That's why most Unix systems ship with an alias for root that aliases rm=rm -i so that any rm attempt by root will prompt for verification. If you'd like to save yourself from this potential megafail, do this: edit ~/.bash_profile add this line somewhere in the file: alias rm=rm -i Save the file and then quit Terminal. When you go back into a Terminal session, that will be set for you automatically. You may need to do this for root's environment as well. If you have multiple accounts logging into your system, you can make this systemwide by adding it to the /etc/profile file (must sudo to edit). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: can someone please try this test...
Hmm - I use a Mac and it works here. Maybe you need to add it to ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile in your case. According to Apple's docs: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file You can also simply type it in a terminal to activate it for THAT Terminal session. Tim On May 23, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: No workie on Mac. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Saved by Dropbox Packrat
On May 23, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: If you're not a Packrat user, your history is retained only for 30 days if I remember correctly. This is enough to save your life but I am really paranoid and the illusion of it being there forever appeals to me. Ooh, and I'm paranoid of any online provider that claims forever in their marketing. LTO tape in 2 locations is my only safety blanket. But, that's what I do for a living... Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New Sandboxing Docs have been posted
Hi Folks, If you haven't received the note from Apple yet, new docs for sandboxing have been posted along with some new entitlements: https://developer.apple.com/devcenter/mac/app-sandbox/ Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: HP WebOS tablet
Thanks for the tip, Mark. Mine is on the way (oh, and you get a free case for it). Tim On May 18, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Newegg now has refurbished 32GB HP WebOS 3.0 tablets for $209. Open source OS, you can install Android for a dual-boot system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834158266nm_mc=AFC-C8Junctioncm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-naAID=10521304PID=4003003SID=1hldcxu738nm2 -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
I actually stopped using migration back around Tiger because of how painfully slow it was. I've found it quicker to reinstall my apps and just copy my documents over. All of my film and music stuff are on a SAS array, so they don't come into the process. Tim On May 14, 2012, at 11:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: No, I would never do that. I know USB was made for keyboards and dongles and useless for big data movement. This was done on a new Mac Pro copying between internal drives. (there are 4 possible on a Pro). The installers and migrators appear to be much slower than 'regular' file copy. I have a lot of files. Over a million. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac Beach Ball Party (or welcome to hell, here's your mac)
Uhhh - that sounds fishy. I run a stable of Lion-based (and a couple of ML-based tester) Mac Pro's with 4GB each and they run everything that I throw at them, so your memory expert sounds like he's trying to sell you more RAM (and that IS his job...). The only systems that I've bumped to 8GB and 16GB are a pair of VMWare test platforms and our video editing monster (8 procs, 16GB). I really suspect that throwing more RAM at this isn't going to be your answer. Tim On May 11, 2012, at 2:12 PM, stephen barncard wrote: thanks Scott. I'll do that, UPDATE I'm really not happy to completely reinstall here, I don't think that will fix things permanently. I gave a call to my favorite RAM company RAMJET, and their memory expert told me that the Mac Pro on Lion REALLY needs more than the 6 stock gigs installed (!) and suggested I get a 3-stick upgrade of 4 gb modules to get up to 15 gigs, so I ordered them and we'll see how that works out. I will never fully understand memory math and why these have to work in threes - (is it the 64 bits?) -- currently there are 6 1 gig sticks, with two open slots. I will lose one of the 1 gig sticks, so the total goes to 15g. William Gibson had no idea about how astronomical ram size would go. None of us did. I will report back ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Mac App Store (was Gatekeeper)
Actually, you're limited to 5 installations as you can only authorize 5 machines to one MAS account at a time. MAS Hysteria, I think... Tim On May 10, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Because I can install it on all 250 Macs I have here at work after paying for it only once. That would still be piracy. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Gatekeeper
And don't forget Don't have a cow, Man!, or Cowabunga, or holy cow!. I believe it's a bovine plot to take over our time line (veiled reference to Heinlein's Number of the Beast). :-O Tim On May 9, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: By the way, whats' with all these cow web sites? There's tucows and my web host is fatcow (who incidentally have a huge selection of 32x32 and 16x16 icons available for free and royalty free). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Gatekeeper
Someone that Orks cows. :-P On May 9, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Jerry Jensen wrote: And, what the heck is a coworker? On May 9, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Tim Jones wrote: And don't forget Don't have a cow, Man!, or Cowabunga, or holy cow!. I believe it's a bovine plot to take over our time line (veiled reference to Heinlein's Number of the Beast). :-O Tim On May 9, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: By the way, whats' with all these cow web sites? There's tucows and my web host is fatcow (who incidentally have a huge selection of 32x32 and 16x16 icons available for free and royalty free). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] - SQLiteAdmin Version 1.2.0 released
Guilty until proven innocent. Because so many people simply set Automatically Open Safe Files in Safari, Apple had to take the extra step to protect the unknowledgeable from their own missteps. Tim On May 9, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I get that on a Mac all the time, the first time I open a file I have downloaded from the internet. Bob On May 9, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Michael Chean wrote: Strange, downloading in Chrome indicates that the window trial may be malicious. I've not seen that before. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8
No, Bob, you've confused Ad Hominem with Homo Sapiens sub-species, Homo Ad Nauseum :-P . Tim On May 4, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hey! Ad Hominem's are people too! ;=) Bob On May 3, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: And I don't want this to be an ad hominem on Mark or on InstallerMaker. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)
On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some fit of insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable bug-fix policy for your purchase? Or your niece bought one? If the product is advertised to offer a feature, and that feature is missing, incomplete, or doesn't work as expected, I would expect a bug fix. This is an update. If the product is not advertised as having a feature, and you add it, I would expect it to be a new version. This is an upgrade For my products, I use a 3 place version identifier - major.minor.bug If I release a new project - it's 1.0.0 If I fix a bug or two - it's 1.0.1 If I add a simple feature or improve an existing feature - it's 1.1.0 If I add a new set of major features - it's 2.0.0 My customers always get bug fixes and minor updates as updates They only get upgrades for free if they have a support and maintenance plan otherwise they pay a 50% upgrade fee for the new version. This has worked for over 22 years and our customer base is very happy in how we treat them. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)
On May 4, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Thank you, Tim. This is very clear and attractive. I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do you fix the bug? That is, do you create version 1.0.6? That falls WAY outside of expected support. However, we do cover that in our playbook - in that case, we offer the user a price-adjusted upgrade path - less than full price, but more than the 50% normal upgrade - to the current version or offer to fix the problem in 1.0.5 under contract for a specified NRE rate. Another. If Product Y is on 1.5.8 which has not gotten bug reports for a couple months and you create a new and better version with major feature changes and plan to release it as 2.0.0. However, some bug reports come in for 1.5.8 and the bug does not occur in 2.0.0. What do you do? Do you release the new major release as 1.6.0 (update) or do you release it as 2.0.0 (upgrade) and then work on 1.5.8 ignoring complaints about 2.0.0 bugs until 1.5.8 is out, or do you hold off on releasing 2.0.0 until 1.5.8 is out? In that case, we release version 2.0.0 and port the fix back to 1.5.7. In fact, we're putting out version 3.0.0 of our BRU Producer's Edition product on the 15th of May, but we've back ported 3 fixes to the 2.3.4 version and are releasing an update to 2.3.5 today to provide the fixes to the non-support customers. is a change in a minor digit an upgrade or an update? We treat it as an update. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)
On May 4, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Dar Scott wrote: Hi, Bob! Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a month--after the release of the next major release? (With the caveats of may opt to do so as you say.) Or should that period be in the 3 months to 11 year range? That is, the person who bought the earlier release just before the new release was (uh) released would have a month to say that the product does not work with his stuff. In this case, we offer a 60 day protection amnesty period - if the user buys a version and we ship a major upgrade within the 60 days after they purchase, they get the new version for free. This is for three reasons - 1: Protect the user from an unexpected expense when they've just bought your product 3: Protect the maintenance team from tracking down bugs that may be fixed in the new version 2: Protect your revenue stream so that the customers don't get wind of a new version and then wait to purchase. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Checking for an internet connectio
Pete, It's a good idea to always check the error code returned from a shell command. The actual text may various from one OS update to another, so depending of the text returned can be a quick way to introduce an odd bug that works on one platform, but not on another. The man page will describe the returned values. If they are the text values (like ENOSPC, or EINVAL), you can look those up in the errno.h file (usually in /usr/include/sys/errno.h). Since ping returns data on both a failure and a success, checking for an empty tResult would always result in a failure as written. Tim On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Phil, Double checking on the code below in your script. The man page for ping in OS X and Linux say that ping has an exit code of zero if no errors are encountered. Should the test on tResult be for zero or have you found that empty works too? Thanks, Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: -- check for connection failure if tResult empty then return false -- failed else -- connected, but how well? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Checking for an internet connectio
Urgh - autocorrect sux! The actual text may vary from one OS update to another Tim On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Tim Jones wrote: Pete, It's a good idea to always check the error code returned from a shell command. The actual text may various from one OS update to another, so depending of the text returned can be a quick way to introduce an odd bug that works on one platform, but not on another. The man page will describe the returned values. If they are the text values (like ENOSPC, or EINVAL), you can look those up in the errno.h file (usually in /usr/include/sys/errno.h). Since ping returns data on both a failure and a success, checking for an empty tResult would always result in a failure as written. Tim On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: Hi Phil, Double checking on the code below in your script. The man page for ping in OS X and Linux say that ping has an exit code of zero if no errors are encountered. Should the test on tResult be for zero or have you found that empty works too? Thanks, Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: -- check for connection failure if tResult empty then return false -- failed else -- connected, but how well? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Instructional Video
On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Richmond wrote: All the stuff I read on doing this seemed a bit difficult, so I designed my own method: 1. Use Livecode based standalone on a G3 iMac running Mac OS 10.4.11. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G3 2. Have a VGA to RCA converter connected to the Video-mirroring connexion at the back of the iMac. http://www.amazon.co.uk/1-8M-VGA-LEAD-CABLE-LAPTOP/dp/B000P3NZ68/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1335547503sr=8-1 3. Have the VGA to RCA converter feeding into a Miglia video converter. http://www.dvforums.com/pressflow/sites/dvforums.com/files/resize/remote/069622209bf5a4b37402f51b59e3275a-628x249.jpg 4. Have a Firewire cable running from the Migla box to a Firewire card on another computer (in this case a Pentium 4 running Xubuntu 12.04). http://www.pcshopper.com.au/files/images/thumbnails/t_43370.jpg 5. Capture Firewire video using Open Source software on PC. This has the advantage that you are not trying to do 2 things at the same time on a single computer. I have also done the same, not so satisfactorily by capturing Firewire Video with iMovie on a macMini PPC. I use Snapz Pro X on my existing system with a Blue Yeti mic. Of course, I edit in Final Cut Pro, but that's just to add splash. No cables, one machine, everything just works (and I can choose to only record a portion of the screen). http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Instructional Video
On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Richmond wrote: On 04/27/2012 08:57 PM, Tim Jones wrote: I use Snapz Pro X on my existing system with a Blue Yeti mic. Of course, I edit in Final Cut Pro, but that's just to add splash. No cables, one machine, everything just works I wonder how many computer people will actually have everything just works on their tombstones; every time I see that I get a really bad case of the creeps. Well, I've been doing it this way for around 5 years and it has just worked, so I don't expect that it will appear on my tombstone... (and I can choose to only record a portion of the screen). You probably do; but I have NO money and piles of old hardware . . . :) And in exchange, for those who don't have your piles of old hardware, a $69 solution that runs on the hardware that we do have is a bargain. I also prefer to leave the PC running Xubuntu to just get on with video capture while I get on with what I want to end up on the video over on the iMac. But, with Snapz Pro X running, you're doing the same thing - one button click and SPX gets out of the way, capturing everything on your system - including the system audio and the mic track. I then record my sound using a Logitech USB mike. I used to use one of these, but got the Yeti for my WebEx sessions. http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/snapzprox/ $69 !!! But, if I have to buy all of the hardware that you mention (which I don't have), even used prices add up to far more than $69 :-). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Instructional Video
On Apr 27, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Richmond wrote: On 04/27/2012 09:37 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Folks, I've been using Quicktime to make screen recordings which seems to work OK but sounds like I may be missing something? No, I don't think you have; but maybe I have. Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com The whole point (!) behind my 'odd' method is that it lets me use one machine for the screen capture and another for the stuff captured; this point seems to have been overlooked by both yourself and Tim Jones. I didn't miss that. I simply believe that since SPX runs seamlessly on ONE system, why go to all of the trouble of multiple machines and cables? I know it's fun to put old things into service as a project, but why bother in a case like this? Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2
On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: I agree with the others though, I despise time limited apps because I never have 30 days to test them, I only have a day here and a day there and I spend half of it recapping what I learnt before. Maybe the proper solution is a number of uses, rather than a number of days. That way, you could say 100 uses and track that in a hidden file. Another option is a function that causes glitching every so often if the app is an audio app, or add a watermark or hash pattern to saved images if a graphics app until a license is installed. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Get the members of a group
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Michael Doub wrote: Can someone explain what is going on here? This works: Put the number of graphics of me into count repeat with i = count down to 1 if the short name of graphic i of me is not TreeBG then delete graphic i end if end repeat This does not: Put the number of graphics of me into count repeat with i = 1 to count if the short name of graphic i of me is not TreeBG then delete graphic i end if end repeat Why is the order significant?] As you delete, you're reducing the count of items and once you've deleted an item, you increment the step to that + 1. This results in skipping every other item and then overflowing the count since you've deleted items out from under yourself. By counting backwards, you keep things sane. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Journalism
Spam??? Someone's email account has been hacked? Otherwise, how is this apropos to LiveCode? On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Richmond wrote: There are now over 60 universities in the UK offering BA honours degrees in journalism. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Linux application crashes
On Apr 13, 2012, at 4:53 AM, Glen Bojsza wrote: So essentially, going through this cycle several times showed the memory to start increasing approximately .7% each cycle. (this is where there are 20 cards so 20 images) I increased the number of cards / images to 40 and the memory started to increase 1.2% each cycle! Never has the memory decreased. That is definitely something to report to the LC bug system. Memory leaks in the LiveCode framework are not something that we mere mortals can work around. One additional question - which version of LC are you using? Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Linux application crashes
Glen, I sincerely doubt that this is related to the version of Linux you are using. This sounds like a potential memory leak in your graphing functionality. Are you using native LiveCode or someone's plugin / stack? Tim On Apr 12, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Glen Bojsza wrote: Hello, I have discovered a potential problem with my Livecode app running on CentOS 6.2 Basic summary is that the application queries databases and generates graphs. The application does snapshots of these graphs and allows the user to position them or re-order them. After stress testing the app (which is due to be released this week) we discover that after generating a volume of snapshots of the graphs (low 100s) that the application crashes hard ... ie just shuts down. Even if, before generating more snapshots, you delete all existing snapshots the application shuts down... deleting doesn't seem to do anything in helping the application to continue to run?? Are there any suggestions that can be tried to solve this? From above it is easy for anyone to reproduce if they have a Linux system (we are locked to CentOS). regards, Glen ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Zipping Up an LC standalone program
On Apr 10, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Tar is a bad idea because it glues files together and doesn't compress. Tar was invented to allow gzip to compress multiple files. It is easier and faster to use the zip command line tool rather than to use both tar and gzip. Many unix geeks still prefer tar+gzip but I'm not sure why. Wha??? tar (Tape ARchiver) has been around since before we even considered compression schemes. It wasn't until the Linux / FreeBSD movement that compression options were added. On most systems still using ATT tar sources, you have to compress an archive after tar creates it and decompress an archive before tar can extract its contents. We prefer tar and a compressor because it allows up to properly bundle up bits of code, regardless of the file types, and share them with others while reduing the overall footprint required on disk and for transfer. The tar app is available in one form or another on every platform out there, so you can pretty much always open another's tarball. In fact, I believe Dennis' original PDP MULTIX 9-track install tapes used a precursor to the modern tar format. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Zipping Up an LC standalone program
On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Warren, It's the un-zipping at the other end that concerns me, not the zip on my machine. Sounds like the ability to handle tar files might require a Windows user to install some software. You might be surprised at just how many Windows users actually already have one of these installed. Far too many developers shortcut the installer process and go this route. That means that a lot of apps floating around in Windows space are already in tar, zip, rar, or other non-standard Windows file format. To access these, the Windows users have already had to install an appropriate tool. Don't be afraid of something just because you're not an expert. We've (app creators) been using these formats to deliver files and data to users for as long as I've been doing this (over 30 years at this point…). If you're not going to be using an installer, then a zip file or tarball are very valid and accepted formats for delivery. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Zipping Up an LC standalone program
Hi Pete, Understood - what I saw in the thread was others offering up tar options that can easily be executed in a shell in much the same manner as the revZip stuff. But, as Phil mentions concerning folders with the revZip functions, tar will automatically pickup the folder structures and compress the resulting output as a single file. My responses were simply aimed at reassuring you that a tar file (gzipped or otherwise) was a valid and successful way to achieve what you were looking for and that recipients wouldn't have an issue receiving such a package. Tim On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:59 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Tim, The origin of this thread was me trying to automate the packaging of the app at my end by writing a script to handle the standaloneSaved message. It used the revZIPxxx commands which, unfortunately, don't seem to work very well, so other scripted solutions were offered, including tar and zip. I can definitely continue to create the compressed files manually in a format that will work just fine for Mac and WIndows (and hopefully Linux). I'm thinking about a proper installer but, other than moving the application to it's appropriate folder for the platform, there's nothing else to do so it just seems like overkill. Pete On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Tim Jones tolis...@me.com wrote: On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Pete wrote: Hi Warren, It's the un-zipping at the other end that concerns me, not the zip on my machine. Sounds like the ability to handle tar files might require a Windows user to install some software. You might be surprised at just how many Windows users actually already have one of these installed. Far too many developers shortcut the installer process and go this route. That means that a lot of apps floating around in Windows space are already in tar, zip, rar, or other non-standard Windows file format. To access these, the Windows users have already had to install an appropriate tool. Don't be afraid of something just because you're not an expert. We've (app creators) been using these formats to deliver files and data to users for as long as I've been doing this (over 30 years at this point…). If you're not going to be using an installer, then a zip file or tarball are very valid and accepted formats for delivery. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Keyboard options
I can't answer for the other questions, but that little keyboard key is the hide me key and just closes the onscreen keyboard. It doesn't really have a keycode. Tim On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:26 AM, Graham Samuel livf...@mac.com wrote: In the latest LC iOS Release notes, the options for changing the keyboard type and the look of the return key are described, with this note: If you wish to configure the keyboard options based on the field that is being focused, simply use the commands in an openField handler of the given field. The keyboard is only shown after this handler returns, so it is the ideal time to configure it. When I did this, it had absolutely no effect. OTOH, when I put the configuration statements in the preOpenCard handler (there is only one card in this test app), they worked fine. Did I do something wrong? Also, on the iPad but not the iPhone, a keyboard can have a little keyboard icon in the bottom right hand corner - can anyone save me the experiment and say what key or keycode this is? TIA Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Justified boast?
On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Richmond wrote: Real Studio is the only object-oriented, cross-platform software development tool that enables users at all levels to create powerful, stand-alone, native applications for Mac OS X, Windows, Linux and the web. http://www.realsoftware.com/realstudio/ I wonder how true this is if one puts RealBASIC head-to-head with Livecode? I must say I do wonder how they can use the word 'only' quite so blatantly? Unfortunately, aside from LC not being an OO language, it's a very true claim as LC still does not offer native controls on all three platforms (web is another story). I use both for very different purposes, but aside from very custom UIs, a LC app versus a RS app reveals the significant work that the RS team have put into their frameworks and what's lacking in LC. Just look at the Linux discussion of late as an example; there's a huge disparity between Linux and the Windows/Mac options. We have an enterprise app that we wrote in RS that runs with a proper native look and feel on all three platforms. When I tried to do something similar using LC, the results were less than attractive. One big issue for us is the lack of an interactive / asynchronous shell class. For now, when you execute something in a shell in LC, your app blocks until the shelled process returns. This makes writing wrappers for long running background process much more work than it should be in LC. I've discussed this with the LC team and while 5.5 gets us closer, they're not there yet IMO. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Justified boast?
On Apr 4, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Richmond wrote: On 04/04/2012 06:53 PM, René Micout wrote: On the French site there is not the term only (le seul environnement)... Maybe the developers of Real BASIC know something about the differences between the Anglophone world and the Francophone world that we don't know . . . :) The RS team have French team members who catch that stuff :-) Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperNext Android Creator
On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Richmond wrote: On 04/04/2012 08:55 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: I've never quite made my mind up about HyperNext, and really wonder whether it is worth the investment of learning a new programming language. Still, it is FREE: http://tigabyte.com/ Curious, given that it seems to be made with RealBASIC and the RB EULA includes: You agree not to create an application that, as its primary purpose, provides your application's end user with access to RBScript and/or the ability to directly (or indirectly through a simple wrapper) call functions in the Realbasic framework. Such software creation is strictly prohibited and would therefore be a violation of this End User License Agreement. ...and the Tigbyte site says: HyperNext is further enhanced by its ability to compile and run REALbasic scripts during runtime. RBscript is a fast high-level object orientated language that is ideal for tasks requiring extra power such as number crunching, heavy text processing and graphics. Might not be a bad idea to point that out to the Tigabyte chap directly. It looks like they are using an older version of Real Studio that came before that EULA change to create HyperNext. That's the unfortunate thing about license agreements - while you can create a new agreement that applies to new versions of you product, you can't make that new agreement retroactive to old versions of your product. I surmise this because they're still building for PPC and pre-OS X platforms. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] HyperNext Android Creator
On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Richmond wrote: Interesting enough, he mentioned to me that he had had great problems to do with getting a Linux port of HyperNext off the ground, and stated: With hindsight I should have kept developing the Pascal version of HyperNext which seems most odd indeed. I suspect that this is because the older version of RS he's using to get the PPC / OS9 compatibility dates back to the 5.0 release days and things on Linux were very fresh and depended on a very archaic (now) version of GTK. The later versions of RS are much more complete and completely on par with the other platforms. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Jacque, After you update to Lion, you can install Parallels 7 and then build a Snow Leopard VM. This is what I do on my personal Mac Pro (I also have Leopard and Tiger, as well as multiple Windows and Linux versions). Another option would be to buy a firewire external HD and install Lion onto that and then dual boot your system (this is what I do with two of our iMacs. Tim On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:01 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/2/12 11:14 PM, Mark Smith wrote: Jacque, I would say go for it. The current successful recipe, based on my limited experience, appears to be snip I've been keeping notes, so I think I've got the recipe down. I just don't want Lion. But everyone seems to have updated successfully so I will do it too. I was going to do it today but I didn't, and now it's getting late, so I'll...do it tomorrow. Right. Tomorrow. (Everybody sing: Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I'll do it, tomorrow!) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I've had domains caught up with sloppy blacklisting schemes myself. It's not a problem with RunRev, or their host, but with the lazy nature of a few blacklisting systems. Actually, in this case, it is their host. GoDaddy needs to tighten up their secureserver.net environment to eliminate the spamming that occurs. Their servers are high on the list of even the most legitimate blacklist maintainers (Barracuda, for instance). This was one of the driving forces behind our moving to a VPS instead of using their shared plans. Costs extra, but no issues of this type (and they still maintain the HW). Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Dar Scott wrote: I have Parallels 6 for lots of Windows, but I thought it will only let me install OS X servers on a VM, not desktops. I put OS X desktops on a rash of partitions on a firewire drive. Does Parallels 7 and Lion get around any technical and license limitations? Parallels 7 let's me install client versions… the only limit is that there are no Parallels Tools for Tiger, so you only get 1024x768 display. You can get around the server limitation in 6. Check the archives at afp548.com for install OS X client in Parallels. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Blocking entire IP ranges is not a responsible way to blacklist, since it can - an inevitably does - affect legitimate users. It's simply lazy, a ham-fisted scorched-earth way to solve a problem that requires more surgical methods. In fact, it seems On-Rev.com may be a very good example of how this gets out of hand so easily, since AFAIK their servers aren't on GoDaddy at all, but on SoftLayer: http://on-rev.com/hosting/our-data-center/ And even if some accounts were host by GoDaddy, unless those specific servers are used for illegal activity there's no excuse for any responsible blacklisting service to block them. In the case of secureserver.net, the blacklists don't block on the IP in this case, but on the domain. That's why you don't have issues with your OnRev site, but only with mail sent FROM the site. The idea is to cause enough pain for GoDaddy to get something done. I don't like it or agree with it, but I can see the logic… As for GoDaddy otherwise, we've had a very successful run with them for over 5 years since we moved to the VPS structure. It's great to be in complete control of our server with none of the maintenance headaches. We even run a BRU Server client on the VPS and backup everything as part of our normal, daily corporate backups. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Iron Sky 04/04
But … be careful of the dark side of the 4s. (we're not really doing this, are we?) On Apr 3, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Use the 4s, Mark. On Apr 3, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Looks like more going on 04/04 than Fourth World's anniversary... http://www.ironsky.net Saving the solar system from Nazi invasion is just another day's work here at Fourth World ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
Next purchase - Magic Track Pad! Tim On Apr 3, 2012, at 12:14 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/3/12 6:43 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Come on in, the waters fine. I did it. I am speaking to you from the Lion's den. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: OT: mails bouncing back?
It appears that OnRev uses GoDaddy services as the secureserver.net servers belong to them. Because of GoDaddy's easy online setup, spammers / scammers are able to pop in, perform a hit-and-run with their mail broadcast, and the security team doesn't catch it and disable the account into it's already a problem. It sounds to me like RunRev should examine alternate mail service providers for the OnRev solution since secureserver.net is very deeply entrenched in the blacklists. Tim . On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: Klaus- Monday, April 2, 2012, 8:22:44 AM, you wrote: My web and email hoster is RunRev (on-rev). So my hoster has a bad reputation? If yes, how come? What can I do? Can anyone tell me who is to blame here, I plea not guilty!? :-D I no longer use the on-rev smtp server because of this problem. Use your local isp's smtp server instead. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Location of iOS 5.0 SDK
On Apr 2, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark, This will only work with LC 5.5 and above. LC 5.0.2 will only work with xCode with iOS 5.0 -- not 5.1 However, there is no reason that you can't build a 5.1 compatible app using LC5.0.2 and Xcode 4.2. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN: ScaleMatic
Have you reported this to the RunRev support team? We can all commiserate with you here on the list, but only they can fix something's that's wrong… Tim On Mar 29, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Roger Guay wrote: I've tried everything suggested in the last list digest to upload stacks to RevOnLine to no avail! I've tried LiveCode versions from 4.6.3 to 5.5. Iv'e tried restarting RunRev repeatedly, I've tried praying, swearing, and various words of magic. I've tried standing up, sitting down, casually looking away, staring with intimidation, psychokinesis, and psychic healing. I've tried morning, noon and night, all to no avail. RevOnLine is effectively dead as far as I am concerned! Cheers, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] ACer A100 Tablet
You can update your Android phone. I've updated my original Droid to the latest and greatest version with each new release. I'm staying away from ICS because it is an original Droid running at 800MHz. Tim On Mar 29, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Pete wrote: Thanks Mark. You justy answered another question I had. I was under the impression that you were stuck with whatever version of Android was on a device when you purchased it but sounds like you can updaste it? Maybe it's just phones that can't be updated? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] ACer A100 Tablet
That's a good guess. If I waited for Verizon, I'd still be running 2.1… Tim On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Pete wrote: Thanks Roger and Tim, I'm not sure where I got that idea from. Maybe the cell phone providers don;t want you to upgarde so you're mor elikley to buy another phone? Pete On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote: Just about all Android phones, and tablets can be end-user-upgraded via CyanogenMod. It's community driven, so you're not at the mercy of the hardware manufacturer. http://www.androidcentral.com/tags/cyanogenmod ~Roger On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Pete wrote: Thanks Mark. You justy answered another question I had. I was under the impression that you were stuck with whatever version of Android was on a device when you purchased it but sounds like you can updaste it? Maybe it's just phones that can't be updated? Pete On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: The A500 has a very responsive screen and has all the other things I was looking for in an Android tablet. I'm still running OS 3.3 on it but I'll get around to upgrading to 4.0 some day. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pete Molly's Revenge http://www.mollysrevenge.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] ACer A100 Tablet
It's the processor - a single chip running at 800MHz - even overclocked to 1GHz - really isn't enough for all of the new bling that is Ice Cream Sandwich. But, Cyanogen gives us a lot of coolness far beyond the stock vendor-supplied versions. Tim On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I listen to Leo laporte on the radio. On one show some time ago he mentioned that some earlier androids could not be upgraded past a certain version. I suspect it has to do with the processor chips being incompatible, or with memory limitations, much like desktop systems. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
Roger, Tom and all - Sorry that everyone took my comments so seriously. That's why I mentioned that they were Sci-Fi ideas. I was simply playing devil's advocate as my advisor did to me on many more than one occasion and poking a bit of fun at SETI. Personally, I believe that Earth is backwater and so far down the chain of technical evolution that the other species simply ignore us. Either that, or the Predator team was correct and Earth's simply a hunting preserve. But don't ask me to defend that position :-P. Oh, and don't get me started on the missing pieces of Drake's. Tim On Mar 26, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Roger Guay wrote: Tom, Please forgive me (especially Tim) for apparently sounding argumentative. Not my intent at all. I was merely trying to say that given the vastness of our universe and the number of stars contained in it, many argue that it is logical to assume a multitude of intelligent species populating our entire galaxy. And given the vast time scale involved, it is also logical to assume these alien civilizations will not have evolved simultaneously (criterion #1) The second criterion is that the radio active stages of technology of these civilizations will be short relative to these same vast time scales. I'm sure that I am not the first to define this criterion, but I have not seen it discussed before. The validity of this is discussed very briefly in the simulation notes. Further to this point, I would argue that ALL technologies have limited durations, and the simulation allows you to adjust it over a very long range (albeit short relative to the vast time scales of our galaxy) to your heart's content. I would be happy to discuss this at length, but it might be best to do so off-list?? My simulation starts with these assumptions and explores the outcome. These criteria are simply derived from the statistics of the numbers involved. There are many more qualified than I to explain the statistics involved, and a few references are included in the notes of the simulation. For those interested I would would start with the SETI project itself at. http://www.seti.org/ And, the Drake equation says it all . . . statically: http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/seti/drake_equation.html Thanks and cheers, Roger Guay ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOS Crash
On Mar 24, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi Dan, iOS 5.1 needs Xcode 4.3. One issue with that, William - why do apps built with earlier Xcode versions work on my Gen 3 iPad running iOS 5.1? It may be Apple's claim for running the emulator and to access the new SDK API's, but that shouldn't prevent original code from working when built with the previous Xcode version. Something seems fishy here. Anyone else running into 5.1 issues? Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
Ready to defend your thesis? Let me toss out two great Sci-Fi antithesis to your points below - How have we determined how long the relatively short duration of the radio stage of any societies is? How have we decided, even taking asynchronous development into account, that humans aren't the most mature and advanced species in the nearby galaxy? :-) Tim On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Roger Guay wrote: Hi all, The SETI project has been in existence for about 50 years, and Enrico Fermi's question asked in the 1940's, Where is everybody? is still germane today. I think I have finally succeded in building a simulation of two criteria relevant to this SETI problem: 1) The asynchronous evolution of intelligence throughout the galaxy couple with 2) the relatively short duration of the radio stage of alien technologies. You can download this stack at: https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblem.livecode I welcome any feedback. Thanks and cheers, Roger Guay ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] A couple of links about Gnome and usability
All very good points, Peter. I am also an XFCE and OpenWindows (OLVWM in Linux speak) fan. One important distinction to keep in mind here - GNOME is not GTK as KDE is not QT. So long as developers keep that in mind when creating software, the desktop paradigm should not be a concern in delivering your applications in the Linux market. Your GTK or QT based apps will run properly under any desktop manager so long as the GTK or QT libraries are installed. Also, you can elect to install other desktop managers under Ubuntu if you do a manual install. I always install FVWM and XFCE and then add BlackBox by building it from source and installing it. If you really want to guarantee compatibility, toss those and look to xt and xlib. Every other mid-level X11 framework has to start there. Tim On Mar 23, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: The first link is to a comprehensive review of Gnome 3, the whole thing being worth reading, but which culminates in the following: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fedora-16-gnome-3-review,3155-16.html The implications for the Gnome-Ubuntu usability project are quite devastating. Basically this justifies all of Torvald's rants about interface authoritarianism Then we have Carla Shroder's review of Bodhi. Note in particular Hooglund's comments on the core issue: one size does not fit all people or all devices. https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/556594-bodhi-linux-the-beautiful-configurable-lightweight-linux The debate has turned from whether we like or dislike Gnome3 or KDE4, and has turned towards the core question: is there one thing we should be imposing on people at all? Finally, check out Linux Mint http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-mint-12-offers-traditional-gnome-feel Finally, we have the ongoing revolt over the interface vandalism that KDE4 represented, and the forking of the Trinity environment as a response. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/trinity-kde.html Basically, the Linux desktop world in the last few years has been testing an hypothesis to destruction. This hypothesis was that there is such a thing as usability, with rules that can be discovered and implemented, and that if you do this, people will be grateful. This hypothesis has been decisively falsified, particularly the part about gratitude. In the course of testing this hypothesis what happened was that 'usability' ceased to have any relation to what real people actually do and want while using their machines, because actually the greatest usability feature is familiarity. Never mind if other people find it politically correct, if I am used to doing it a certain way, its usable for me. The predictable result was users are walking with their feet, first away from KDE4, and now away from Gnome3 and Unity, often towards xfce. The less predictable result has been that the whole question of whether usability is a useful concept at all has started to be debated. As Hooglund's remarks illustrate. Me, I have moved to Fluxbox, because it gets out of the way and stays out. Everyone I support will be moving to xfce over the next few months. With any luck, they will not notice its not Gnome2! Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Translation s'il vous plâit/por favor :-)
We've already got them, so here you go: Francais: Copiez le fichier mon_fichier à votre dossier Applications Espanol:Copie thefile a su carpeta Aplicaciones If others could vet these JUST TO BE SURE :-). Tim On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: Hi friends, could you please translate this into french and spanish for me? ... Copy XXX to your Applications folder. ... Vielen Dank! Thanks a lot! Merci beaucoup! Muchas gracias! :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Translation s'il vous plâit/por favor :-)
On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Tim Jones wrote: We've already got them, so here you go: Francais: Copiez le fichier mon_fichier à votre dossier Applications Also may be: Copiez le fichier mon_fichier sur votre dossier Applications Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Translation s'il vous plâit/por favor :-)
Pierre, would you mind explaining the tense differences between the three options: à votre sur votre dans votre It turns out that one of our products has the first two as the text for this exact message. Your option is a third variant and I'm now completely confused :-/ Thanks, Tim On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: or : Copiez le fichier mon_fichier dans votre dossier Applications ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Translation s'il vous plâit/por favor :-)
Make's perfect sense. dans votre is the proper direction and I've changed the strings in our lang files. Thanks to you and Pierre for the clarification. Tim On Mar 22, 2012, at 1:30 PM, jacques CLAVEL wrote: I agree with Pierre answer. Examples : mettez le fichier sur votre bureau put the file on your desktop copiez le fichier dans votre dossier copy the file to (into) your folder mettez la montre à votre poignet put the watch on your wrist Hope this help Jacques Clavel 2012/3/22 Tim Jones tolis...@me.com Pierre, would you mind explaining the tense differences between the three options: à votre sur votre dans votre It turns out that one of our products has the first two as the text for this exact message. Your option is a third variant and I'm now completely confused :-/ Thanks, Tim On Mar 22, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: or : Copiez le fichier mon_fichier dans votre dossier Applications ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Translation s'il vous pl?it/por favor :-)
Josep - As with my French, would you mind clarifying the difference between Copie and Copiar? Thanks, Tim On Mar 22, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Josep M Yepes wrote: Hi, Better... Copiar XXX a su carpeta Aplicaciones Salut, Josep M El 22/03/2012, a las 21:30, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com escribió: Espanol:Copie thefile a su carpeta Aplicaciones ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Need an example of how to use try and catch
Or - this can be applied to a night out clubbing - try put myBestPickupLine into myMouth catch theResponse If theResponse is not negative -- Oh yeah! set luckynight to true else put wittingComback into myMouth move body to new location finally if not luckynight then goHomeAlone end try Sorry, it's just too obvious… Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: What language is this article in? Save As is dying. The Lion API establishes these changes. ?? Now because of these changes, the traditional Save As command no longer makes since. Since Uh oh, looks like somebody's koolaid is wearing off. Eveyone knows that this is Apple-ese. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: New Xcode 4.3.1
On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/19/12 3:25 PM, Ken Ray wrote: This is actually a lot uglier when you try to Save as a file on a locked volume to another place - you get multiple steps and tirades of dialogs informing you why you can't save the original file (which you weren't trying to do in the first place)… Is Export supposed to do that now? Mind, I'm still going on theoreticals until I actually install Lion. ... but what you're supposed to do is according to my Apple Store Genius is Duplicate the opened file, close the original, change the new Copy and then Save. When you save the duplicate, you'll be prompted with the normal Save As... dialogs. And I agree, this is two steps back. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] Running old PPC apps on Lion
Hi Folks, In the other thread about Xcode and Lion, there's mention of the apps that no longer run in Lion. Good new - you can still install Rosetta and things return to normalcy for those of us with old app (Final Cut, Logic, AppleWorks, etc.). You will need to have the Snow Leopard install disks, Load the Snow Leopard install disk Select the Optional Installs package Select Rosetta This will install Rosetta under Lion and all of your PPC-based apps will happily run. HTH, Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Apple iPad announcement evokes yawn
On Mar 7, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: Tim Jones wrote: I agree that the higher pixel density will provide for more comfortable reading, but it also means that we'll now need to add still another screen size to the three that we already must check for (iPhone, iPhone Retina, and iPad). I know! Horrendous! Android would never treat us so poorly :) But that's another discussion. This was about another overblown Apple launch event that was much ado about nothing. A lot of catch-up on things, but nothing truly new. I'm happy that Apple management haven't lost Jobs' flair for the dramatic, but a new screen, an updated camera, and finally getting to 1080p isn't something that I'd have been happy about traveling to San Francisco for as a journalist. Show me a Mac Book Air Pad (touch screen MBA) and I'll get excited. Show me a new rack-friendly Mac Pro, and I'll shout to the heavens. Show me Thunderbolt peripherals that are actually available and I'll most likely faint. But a new screen and an overdue update on existing products??? Sorry to sound so jaded and cynical, but I've been in this space for too long (since the Apple ][ circa 1982), and I just expect more. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[WOT] Warning - long winded discussion - was Re: Apple iPad announcement evokes yawn
Whoa - I touched a sensitive nerve ending with that one.. Everything that you mention was all stuff that could have been announced via press release. The quad core is the GPU only. The 4G-LTE support is again - catch up. Economic uncertainty is not part of the reality of Apple. They made the largest net profit in the company's history last quarter. The Xserve was never anything like a Mac Pro (or a PowerMac). the Mac Pro is used for serious ME production and is NOT designed to be a server while the Xserve was primarily an enterprise server system and was never designed (or sold) for desktop use - the two can never be confused. Apple canned the Xserve because they underestimated the efforts of supporting an enterprise environment. For another company, $415M a year is big money. For Apple, it's not worth maintaining since it's so far removed from their core efforts. Get on the phone and call any major studio's system support team and ask them what the best thing Apple could give them and you'll get the same story from all of them - new licenses for Final Cut Pro 7 and a 12 core Mac Pro that will fit in a rack. This is what I do for a living. I - and a lot of folks in the ME space - regularly use our iPads 10 to 12 hours (or more) a day and we love them. Just because it's something you wouldn't appreciate doesn't mean that the rest of the world also doesn't appreciate it. In fact, this is sent from my iPad, but I remove that silly tag at the bottom. Heck, Peter Frampton even used one on stage last night. I love my Apple products, and I own multiple, but I am confused by your statement relating gas prices to the Apple event (??). Tim On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Would a quad core make you a bit happier? How about 4G LTE? I don't think it was about nothing. These are all somethings, and all together they comprise a significant upgrade. Also, I think that in the midst of economic uncertainty, it would be foolish of Apple to embark on some great new technology. They DID have a rack mounted Mac Pro. It was called Xserve, and very few people (relatively speaking) bought them. They are AWESOME servers (I have 6 in my network here) but they were pricey, and it took a long time for the Server OS to get to where an enterprise would feel comfortable integrating it into their existing Active Directory infrastructure, and there was no real benefit to doing so. Apple understandably canned the product line. A touchscreen in and of itself is not a very good interface for a laptop IMHO. I have had the opportunity to use one running Windows, and I found myself going back to the trackball or touchpad in frustration. If you interact with the system a lot, reaching out your hand and touching the screen multiple times in a minute can get tiring after not too long. Try doing it all day! Even with an iPad I would not like to have to use it all day as my main computing device. The times, they ARE a changin', and not necessarily for the better. Gas prices are going through the roof and businesses will not absorb this cost themselves. They will predictably pass that cost on to the consumer, in the form of more expensive utilities, food, pretty much everything. Consumers will then have even less free cash to spend on new technology. I think Apple did just enough. Bob On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Tim Jones wrote: This was about another overblown Apple launch event that was much ado about nothing. A lot of catch-up on things, but nothing truly new. I'm happy that Apple management haven't lost Jobs' flair for the dramatic, but a new screen, an updated camera, and finally getting to 1080p isn't something that I'd have been happy about traveling to San Francisco for as a journalist. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] New Wine in old skins.
Simply put - no Windows license required; your app runs natively on the hosting platform (Linux, OS X, FreeBSD, etc.). On the other hand, there are a number of apps that don't run quite right. Tim On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Hi Richmond. What are the ups and downs to using Wine as opposed to a VM like Parallels? Bob On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Richmond wrote: WINE 1.4 http://www.winehq.org/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Apple iPad announcement evokes yawn
So, it's not the iPad 3, it's the New iPad. Seems to me that the only thing that has happened is that we (developers) now need to worry about 3 display sizes for our iOS apps. Does this mean that iPod / iPhone apps now get a 2x and a 3x button when running on the new iPad? I'm digging through the iOS developer docs to see what we can uncover today. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Apple iPad announcement evokes yawn
I was viewing the announcement more from a developer's point of view rather than a user's. I agree that the higher pixel density will provide for more comfortable reading, but it also means that we'll now need to add still another screen size to the three that we already must check for (iPhone, iPhone Retina, and iPad). It will also be interesting to see what happens to the gaming world with the 4 core graphics processor. Tim On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:54 PM, François Chaplais wrote: Much of my work consists in reading PDF research articles. The retina display is a killer feature for that. And, mind you, PDF is resolution independent. Le 7 mars 2012 à 22:43, Tim Jones a écrit : So, it's not the iPad 3, it's the New iPad. Seems to me that the only thing that has happened is that we (developers) now need to worry about 3 display sizes for our iOS apps. Does this mean that iPod / iPhone apps now get a 2x and a 3x button when running on the new iPad? I'm digging through the iOS developer docs to see what we can uncover today. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Windows 8
On Mar 6, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, I just installed an app with an installer created by the Installer Maker Plugin and it seems to work fine. The app appears in the overview of colorized bricks, next to LiveCode. It looks like LiveCode apps won't work almost like they do in Windows 7 but they will work just fine, as they do in Win XP up to and including 7. After all, Windows 8 is just like Windows 7 once you have found the door in the brick wall. The secret entrance is a brick called Desktop. The usual door in the bottom-left is gone. I hope we'll soon be able to get to the desktop on startup automatically. In Win8 DP1, you could set the Desktop as your staring point. Apparently, they discovered that the vast majority of developers were doing just that and ignoring the Metro screen so they removed the ability in CP1. We've ignored our customers and put far too much effort into this, so you will run Metro, and you WILL like it! Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sound loops in iOS
So that seems to be the question to ask - Do any of the RR folks know of a way to properly preload sounds for a sound channel to alleviate this delay? Tim On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: For those that are interested, RunRev Support has acknowledged that the 'looping' option doesn't work in iOS 'play' statements in LC 5.0.2. They say: This is a bug, we have reported this to the Quality Control Center. The bug report number is 10039. You can also track the bug here: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10039 Let's hope it's fixed soon, because I'm finding the alternative, which is the use of sound channels, introduces an unacceptable delay the first time a sound is played. There may be some trick for pre-loading sounds but I haven't found it. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sound loops in iOS
Voila! Ask and ye shall receive (okay, so I'm getting boring with the cliches :-) ). Tim On Feb 29, 2012, at 9:38 AM, John Dixon wrote: Graham... I have found that to get around the 'ldelay' when using 'iphonePlaySoundOnChannel' in your stack for the first time is to play a short file containing 'silence' in say the openStack handler... the response of issuing the 'iphonePlaySoundOnChannel' command seems to be fine after that... For those that are interested, RunRev Support has acknowledged that the 'looping' option doesn't work in iOS 'play' statements in LC 5.0.2. They say: This is a bug, we have reported this to the Quality Control Center. The bug report number is 10039. You can also track the bug here: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10039 Let's hope it's fixed soon, because I'm finding the alternative, which is the use of sound channels, introduces an unacceptable delay the first time a sound is played. There may be some trick for pre-loading sounds but I haven't found it. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: iOs, xCode 4.3 Lion and LC 5.0.2
Hi Malte, I haven't tested this with LiveCode, but it solves issues with other non-Apple dev environments: sudo xcode-select -switch /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/ This command points system resources to the correct header paths, command-line tools, etc. if you have the full Xcode installation. HTH, Tim On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi, can anyone point me on how to use the latest xCode under Lion for iOs testing wit LC 5.0.2? What Do I need to provide to the mobile support settings in preferences? xCode is a package now, which apparently can not be chosen? Thanks a heap, Malte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Casey flies to the Amazon
Congrats on getting this done. Now, to quote ye olde bard - The proof is in the tasting of the pudding. Let's see where you end up in a month or so. I have heard the same thing about the success rates between the two stores. Tim On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:16 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I read an article recently that said developers who submit apps to Amazon's Android app store make more money than the same apps submitted to the Android Market. So I thought, what the hey, and submitted Casey's Solitaire on Friday. Submitting to Amazon is very easy if you've already got Android Market materials ready (or vice versa.) They ask for exactly the same types and sizes of images with only two exceptions: the promo image and icon both differ slightly in size between the two stores. But all the screen shots, display icon, descriptions, developer data, etc. are identical so all you need to do is prepare everything once. Amazon accepts less text than the Market so I had to trim the description a little (I took out all the hollering. Casey never listens to me anyway.) I had read it takes a long time to get reviewed and was prepared to wait 2 weeks or more (they vet apps like Apple does) but it was accepted today and showed up immediately online. I was afraid there might be issues because Amazon wraps each app with their own protection code but it sailed through without a hitch. Another win for LiveCode, another market for us. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cheap Android Tablet
Hi Al, If you're searching for one to test your apps on, I would recommend either the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. Both are $200 and provide good performance and full Android support (except phone stuff). From an off-brand point of view, EvoMax offers their 10.2 for $139, but it's resistive touch, so the experience will be a little less than spectacular. HTH, Tim On Feb 24, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote: Hi All, Does exists a website that review Android devices from a developer standpoint, not from the consumer's point of view? Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cheap-Android-Tablet-tp3808843p4417676.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Mac drop file on standalone, process, and quit
I'll have to say negative to both of your assertions. There are a very broad number of applications that do not fit the model of the MAS and Apple knows this. As long as there are software stores, integration consultants, and non-home user customers, there will always be a normal channel for software. Also, you can add iCloud support to a non-MAS app. The only true limit is that it's only supported on 10.7.2+. Check the iCloud section at developer.apple.com Tim On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: Well then screw the app store! I am starting to look sideways at Apple... There will be a day in the not so distant future when if you don't sell your software on mac apple store, the mac users will never discover it (unless you're doing vertical) Also the iCloud stuff only work for software from the Mac Apple Store. Bob On Feb 24, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, I think that AppleEvents are not authorized on the new Mac App Store rules right? Silly Apple... Andre ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Cheap Android Tablet
On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:51 PM, Ken Corey wrote: On 24/02/2012 18:11, Tim Jones wrote: If you're searching for one to test your apps on, I would recommend either the Kindle Fire or the Nook Tablet. Both are $200 and provide good performance and full Android support (except phone stuff). From an off-brand point of view, EvoMax offers their 10.2 for $139, but it's resistive touch, so the experience will be a little less than spectacular. I'd recommend the Sumvision cyclone Astro (£97) and full capacitive multi-touch. Spectacular tablet, and let's you use multitouch. http://www.ebuyer.com So long as you are in the UK. Not available in the USA or most of the EU continent that I could find. Amazon UK says not available in USA if I try to order. Tim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: The Linux engine...
Hmmm, SunOS and X11R4? Tim On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: You know what would be great? If someone wrote a graphics engine based entirely upon PDF! Yeah that would be the ticket! And then, you could print directly to PDF because everything would already be in the correct format! Yeah! ;-) Bob On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:37 AM, Warren Samples wrote: On 02/23/2012 03:20 AM, Malte Brill wrote: I figured out so much that this is a GNOME (working) versus KDE (not working) thing. What really scares me is the exit on signal 11 issue. How does one debug that??? Not that this is of any practical value, but this is an issue with compositing. If you turn off window effects, shift+Alt+F12, background patterns should render normally. That works here with openSUSE KDE. There is a related problem with video rendering for many of us. Happens also with Gnome 2 on Ubuntu and Mint when running Compiz. It *may* also be dependent on specific video card/driver combinations. Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [ot] is it safe to upgrade to lion?
I installed SuSE's PPC version on my White G4 and got 1280 x 1024, so it's not the video card, it's the lock that Apple put on it to make you buy a PowerBook (or Mac Book Pro). Tim On Feb 22, 2012, at 4:35 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: Bob, yep... I had to buy a macbook pro because of the better video card. I was doing some video stuff and the white macbook couldn't run the software. I wish I could keep on Linux forever but Mac OS X still a very good system... I am just afraid of Apple. On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com wrote: If they had put a nice video card into it, they would have then had to put it in a nice metal case and call it a Macbook Pro. :-) Bob On Feb 22, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Andre- Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 2:37:50 PM, you wrote: I think I will migrate directly to Mountain Lion because I am felling adventurous. You might try installing it into a vm to try it out first. oh I don't dream of doing that in my main machine... I will try it first on my spare macbook white. oops... I think it won't run there due to the crap video card that apple put onto that thing. =/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url shortening service. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Checkbox question
I use a Green / Gray 8x8 button to display on or off status where user choice is not considered. This has worked well for over 8 years and there's never a point of confusion on the user's end. Tim On Feb 18, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Pete wrote: I have a stack which is used to show information in a display only mode, the user is not allowed to change any of the displayed values. I want to use checkboxes in some cases. How can I prevent the user clicking the check box and changing its state? I've currently got them disabled to achieve this but I'd prefer them to have their enabled appearance, just not allow them to be changed. I've considered making images of the checkbox in its checked and unchecked state, disabling the checkbox and assigning the appropriate image as its disabled icon depending on the checkbox's state but wondering if there's a more straightforward way to do this. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
