Re: html5Player

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Thanks a lot Herman for that work.
It opens a lot of possibilities.

Kind regards,

Alain Vezina

> Le 29 janv. 2020 à 20:55, hh via use-livecode  
> a écrit :
> 
> HTML5: html5Player (v102 as of Jan 30, 2020)
> 
> This is a HTML5 standalone (webApp in the new LC wording).
> https://hyperhh.de/html5/html5Player.html
> 
> This is a "standalone-Plus" that is, it is extended by several
> javascript extensions for features that are not (yet) implemented
> in LC-HTML5 or not possible with LC.
> 
> It can do among other the following.
> 
> * Load (ordinary) local LC stacks by click or drag and drop.
> The stacks will run if they would compile and run with the HTML5
> standalone builder (but you don't have to compile).
> The stacks MUST have one of the file endings .rev, .livecode or
> .livecodescript.
> 
> * Load and display local or remote images (drag and drop images
> or copy/paste image urls is supported).
> 
> * Load and display local audio/video (for cross-browser support
> use mp3 and mp4 only). Drag and drop file icons is supported.
> 
> * Open a webview for videos, pdfs, audio streams and html pages.
> In such a webview you can safely run also HTML5 standalones that
> don't work in the html5Player because you inject javascript
> handlers/objects to the loading page.
> As the main page loads as https you can use https-Addresses only
> in the webview (especially for audio/video-streams).
> 
> * Open one or several webcam views (works in newer Chrome, Safari,
> Brave, not in Firefox).
> 
> All views are displayed in panels that are draggable and resizable
> (incl. minimize and maximize).
> 
> HTML5: html5IDE
> (Inspector+Dictionary+ScriptEditor+Tools)
> 
> The above html5Player will complete my experimental html5IDE that
> is close to "ready"". I can also meanwhile save edited stacks. But
> I don't publish newer versions than
> https://hyperhh.de/html5/html5IDE.html
> until LC does more in that field than renaming it to "WebApps".
> 
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How much do we have to pay to get a minimum of efficiency from HTML5

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I gave up regular LC to get interested in HTML5 from LiveCode a year ago. My 
intention was to transform my apps to get me out of Apple's tyranny. I was 
first enchanted by this product, but I quickly became disillusioned when I 
realized that basic commands and functions in LC like read from file or write 
to file do not work in HTML5. I reported a bug on the Browser widget in April 
2019 and the problem has still not been fixed. For me, it is a tool that is 
fundamental in many of my applications. 

Last week, I was informed that my subscription would end on November 22 of this 
year. To renew it, I have to pay $790.60 Canadian.

After some hesitation, I decided to pay, but this is the last year I do it if 
HTML5 is still so limited. I think that at that price, I could get a lot more 
from LiveCode.

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Re: Can I find out what handler I am in?

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I use to indicate where I am by answering something like "I'm entering in 
handler XYZ", "I exit handler XYZ"

Sometime I use answering to know what is in a special Variable, an so on.

I's simple, but it woks, especially when I use several handlers.

Alain Vezina
Logilangue

> Le 25 oct. 2019 à 14:57, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> its mostly for try routines so i'm using it like it
> 
> try
> something 
> catch TheError
> LogError TheError
> end try
> 
> in LogError handler is where i read the correct line and item in the
> executioncontexts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:47 PM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Item 2 of line -1 of the executionContexts
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:46 , Bob Sneidar 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Correction Item 2
>>> 
 On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:46 , Bob Sneidar 
>> wrote:
 
 Item 3
 
 
> On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:39 , Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Its for error handling ...I want my error handler to know which
>> handler the
> error was in.
 
>>> 
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HTML5

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

How come when I test my app in the developement test using my browser, 
everything is ok. and
when I test the same app as standalone in my web site, nothing appear after 3 
or 4 minutes?

My standalone-commercial-9.0.2.js is 28.5 Mo. I guess that is the reason...

Alain Vezina
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Re: Is HTML5 really practical?

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I've been working with HTML5 for a few weeks now and I'm surprised that we 
can't do things as simple as put field "MyFld" into aVar.
So I doubt we can use a dynamic database. But there is nothing better than 
trying by testing aspects in a way that doesn't take too long, even if the 
dictionary doesn't always tell us what HTML5 can do.

Consider this my point of view as an old LC programmer and a beginner in HTML5.

Alain Vezina

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> Le 30 août 2019 à 16:42, William Prothero via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Folks:
> I’m considering making a web site that will use livecode’s html5 engine. Is 
> this practical? 
> 
> What I want to create is a signup system for a kayaking club. Paddles are 
> scheduled for each week and members enter their names for various paddle 
> times. The member list would be in a database and there would also be a 
> membership page with entries for various aspects of their skill levels.
> 
> HH’s demos see to show reasonable engine load times, but I’m wondering 
> whether it might be easier and better to just use the engine as a cgi and do 
> everything in css and html.
> 
> Frankly, I haven’t seen any compelling use case for livecode's html5. Is 
> there one, at this time?
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Best,
> Bill
> 
> William A. Prothero
> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
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Re: QR Code Reader with Livecode

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Very, very interesting.
I can't wait

Alain

> Le 11 août 2019 à 10:10, hh via use-livecode  
> a écrit :
> 
> I have a QRcode Reader nearly finished.
> Will publish it on Wednesday in "Sample Stacks".
> 
> There will be also a QRcode Writer that outputs to a
> SVG icon widget (or to a polygon graphic or to an image).
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Re: Gzip in HTML5

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Thanks a  lot Hermann,

Your PDF file is a trove of information to develop in HTML5.

Alain Vezina


> Le 12 juil. 2019 à 13:01, hh via use-livecode  
> a écrit :
> 
> Nothing directly/manually.
> The "need" for Gzip is meant to speed up serving the HTML5 standalone.
> This is done (after configuring the .htaccess file) by the server.
> 
> The standalone builder gives you the files exactly as you need them.
> What you can change to your taste is the html file connected to the 
> standalone.
> 
> Here is the pdf of a talk I gave in 2016, the second part contains
> an example customized html file and moreover (on page 15) some hints
> how to optimize serving html5 standalones using Gzip/Apache:
> 
> http://hyperhh.org/html5/community/LCD-01f.pdf
> 
> Compare your serving speed to the speed of the last samples of 
> http://hyperhh.org/html5/ (which is optimized) using Safari.
> 
> If have here a loading time of at most 7 seconds for the first time
> and 4 seconds when using the same LC version.
> [http://hh.on-rev.com/html5/ is (currently) much slower...]
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Gzip in HTML5

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Is there anybody who can tell me which files and folders I have to Gzip in 
HTML5 app. ?
The doc says you have to Gzip the engine.  What do they mean by engine, 
considering that the biggest folder is the JavaScript one.

I Gziped that folder, but I saw no difference in time to download my test app.

Alain Vezina
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I am no longer an Apple developer

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Since the first of July, I have managed to get out of Apple's clutches. Since 
2008, I have released eight applications for Mac, iPad and iPhone. I worked 
hard to meet Apple's many requirements, which changed far too often, not to 
mention the iOS system changes. The last one, 12.x, made all my applications no 
longer work on an iPad or iPhone.

Now I am working hard to ensure that these applications can be used via a 
browser using HTML5 from LiveCode. Unfortunately, I am delayed by bugs and a 
lack of clear documentation.

For example, I would like to know which folders or files I need to compress 
with gZip to make the download faster. If some of you are experts in HTML5, I 
would like to know them; maybe we could form a self-help club...

Alain Vezina
Logilague

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Gzip and HTML5

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Hi all,

Is there somebody who knows which file(s) we have to Gzip after making a 
standalone in HTML5?

Alain Vezina
Logilangue.com
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Re: play sounds in HTML5

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Hi,

I have to admit, I'm a little confused.

1. Do I have to set the defaultFolder to specialFolderPath ("Documents") in 
openStack ?

2.  After I copy the HTML file in the folder Documents, do I have to change 
it's name ?

3. Do I have to write sometihing like   in both HTML files ?

4. Do I have to write it in a structure like 


?

I hope I'm not bothering you.
I have a long experience of programming in LC, but this is the first time I 
have tried HTML5 and I have no knowledge of Java Script.

Regards,

Alain
> 

> Le 16 mai 2019 à 12:11, hh via use-livecode  a 
> écrit :
> 
>> Thanks Sean.
>> I will have to work hard because I am not familiar with Dynamic HTML.
> 
> One simple way to do that:
> 
> Write, a little bit more as Sean wrote, in your html file:
> 
> 
> Then first set in LC newsound, may be randomly:
> 
> put "/audio/guitar-melody.wav" into newsound
> 
> Then issue from LC:
> 
> do "document.getElementById('audio1').src='" & newsound & "'" in widget 
> "browser"
> 
> That's all, nothing complicated.
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Re: play sounds in HTML5

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Thanks a  lot Sean,

I think you have the right solution.
I will have to work hard because I am not familiar with Dynamic HTML.
A few trials and errors should solve the problem.

Thanks again

Alain


> Le 15 mai 2019 à 20:56, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi again Alain
> 
> What you are talking about I think is known as a form of Dynamic HTML. 
> Basically you use LiveCode to build your list of audio files (put the files 
> into tFileList) and choose one (random or picked by the user via a 
> mobilePick...) then replace out the source file pointer ( the html file. 
> 
> Because you will not be able to write over the original html file included 
> with your app package you will want to duplicate the contents of the html 
> folder into the (specialFolderPath) “Documents” folder. If you are 
> downloading additional audio have these stored directly into 
> Documents/html/audio/. 
> 
> Once you’ve changed the html file you can either refresh the page or set the 
> htmltext of the browser to the contents of the updated html file (which is 
> the best option. 
> 
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital Prod Ltd
> 
>> On 15 May 2019, at 21:44, Alain Vezina via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Sean,
>> 
>> You did not misunderstand my request.
>> 
>> You make me go one step forward : now I can call a sound to be played from a 
>> folder where there are several other sound.
>> 
>> Now, how can I played a sound chosen by random your chosen by the user; in 
>> other words, how can I replace "piano-melody.wav" by the name of the chosen 
>> sound, never knowing wich sound will be chosen by the user or by a random 
>> procedure ? How my program can write in an HTML file, considering there is a 
>> list of all the soud files including the extention .WAV or .MP3 or another 
>> one?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Alain
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 14 mai 2019 à 17:02, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>>>  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Alain
>>> 
>>> The key here is in the line
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Instead of just piano-melody.wav you would put in the whole path or 
>>> relative path to the file. Example, if your file structure has a folder 
>>> called ‘html’ containing your html file and then another folder called 
>>> ‘audio’ which contains all your audio files including one called 
>>> piano-melody.wav then the code would read
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This points to the file in a relative path to the html file itself. 
>>> 
>>> Does this help or have I misunderstood your request?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Sean Cole
>>> Pi Digital Prod Ltd
>>> 
>>>> On 14 May 2019, at 20:52, Alain Vezina via use-livecode 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Is there somebody who knows how to play one sound after another using the 
>>>> path of each sound.
>>>> 
>>>> I read the lesson [ How do I play sound files in HTML5? ] where I have to 
>>>> type the name the sound in the HTML file and to put the sound file into 
>>>> the standalone folder.
>>>> 
>>>> You know, I want to use one of my sounds libraries as I did into a 
>>>> standalone for Mac, PC , IOS or Android : you specify once the path of the 
>>>> library and the name of the sound you want to be played. The sounds 
>>>> library is not in the app and every sound has his proper name. So I can 
>>>> play a sound chosen by random  or chosen by the user.
>>>> 
>>>> Alain Vezina
>>>> Logilangue
>>>> www.logilangue.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: play sounds in HTML5

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Thanks Sean,

You did not misunderstand my request.

You make me go one step forward : now I can call a sound to be played from a 
folder where there are several other sound.

Now, how can I played a sound chosen by random your chosen by the user; in 
other words, how can I replace "piano-melody.wav" by the name of the chosen 
sound, never knowing wich sound will be chosen by the user or by a random 
procedure ? How my program can write in an HTML file, considering there is a 
list of all the soud files including the extention .WAV or .MP3 or another one?

Regards

Alain


> Le 14 mai 2019 à 17:02, Pi Digital via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Alain
> 
> The key here is in the line
> 
> 
> 
> Instead of just piano-melody.wav you would put in the whole path or relative 
> path to the file. Example, if your file structure has a folder called ‘html’ 
> containing your html file and then another folder called ‘audio’ which 
> contains all your audio files including one called piano-melody.wav then the 
> code would read
> 
> 
> 
> This points to the file in a relative path to the html file itself. 
> 
> Does this help or have I misunderstood your request?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sean Cole
> Pi Digital Prod Ltd
> 
>> On 14 May 2019, at 20:52, Alain Vezina via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there somebody who knows how to play one sound after another using the 
>> path of each sound.
>> 
>> I read the lesson [ How do I play sound files in HTML5? ] where I have to 
>> type the name the sound in the HTML file and to put the sound file into the 
>> standalone folder.
>> 
>> You know, I want to use one of my sounds libraries as I did into a 
>> standalone for Mac, PC , IOS or Android : you specify once the path of the 
>> library and the name of the sound you want to be played. The sounds library 
>> is not in the app and every sound has his proper name. So I can play a sound 
>> chosen by random  or chosen by the user.
>> 
>> Alain Vezina
>> Logilangue
>> www.logilangue.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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play sounds in HTML5

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Hi all,

Is there somebody who knows how to play one sound after another using the path 
of each sound.

I read the lesson [ How do I play sound files in HTML5? ] where I have to type 
the name the sound in the HTML file and to put the sound file into the 
standalone folder.

You know, I want to use one of my sounds libraries as I did into a standalone 
for Mac, PC , IOS or Android : you specify once the path of the library and the 
name of the sound you want to be played. The sounds library is not in the app 
and every sound has his proper name. So I can play a sound chosen by random  or 
chosen by the user.

Alain Vezina
Logilangue
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LC 9.0.2 and HTML5

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Hi all,

I tested one of my applications with Safari 12.0 and when it loaded an HTML 
page i received this message :

err #3
enlarged memory arrays from 67108864 to 134217728, took 87 ms (has 
ArrayBuffer.transfer? false)

This application works very well on OS 10.12.6, on iOS 10.3.3 and on Android

What can I do to fix this problem?
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Re: widget browser

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I load both types of files and I used the prefix «  file://« 
Some files are on my Web site.

When I ask for the result, it is empty.

Alain

> Le 19 févr. 2019 à 16:43, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> could it have something to do with the "file:///" prefix? for local files?
> 
> or is this a remote file you are trying to load?.
> 
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> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 4:37 PM Alain Vezina via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am using widget browser for the first time and I didn’t find the way to
>> load an HTML file to MyBroswer.
>> I especially want to use it in HTML5.
>> 
>> I tried set the URL of widget « MyBrowser" to a specific  html page,
>> 
>> I tried set the htmlText  of widget « MyBrowser » to a specific  html page
>> and nothing happens except my Browser becomes  blank white.
>> 
>> These two ways don’t work on Mac or with HTML5, except when I use
>> specialFolderPath to write an HTML page that I load after.
>> 
>> I use LC 9.02
>> 
>> Anybody has an idea to make that work.
>> 
>> I want to transfer my apps from the App Store to HTML because I am fed up
>> with Apple’s rules which change too many times.
>> 
>> Alain Vezina
>> Logilangue
>> www.logilangue.com
>> 
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widget browser

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Hi all,

I am using widget browser for the first time and I didn’t find the way to load 
an HTML file to MyBroswer.
I especially want to use it in HTML5.

I tried set the URL of widget « MyBrowser" to a specific  html page,

I tried set the htmlText  of widget « MyBrowser » to a specific  html page and 
nothing happens except my Browser becomes  blank white.

These two ways don’t work on Mac or with HTML5, except when I use 
specialFolderPath to write an HTML page that I load after.

I use LC 9.02

Anybody has an idea to make that work.

I want to transfer my apps from the App Store to HTML because I am fed up with 
Apple’s rules which change too many times.

Alain Vezina
Logilangue
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Re: Anyone using the HTML 5 LiveCode tool?

[Alain Vezina via use-livecode]

Hi Kee,

I just started using HTML5 for one of my applications. I observed that it takes 
a little while before we see the first map. Also, it takes some time to get an 
answer when you have a search done on a list of about 3000 words.

The best performance was achieved with FireFox in a device with iOS 12. In 
10.3.3 it's very, very slow.

In a device with Android, it's in between.

I think the problem is the size of the.js file even if it is compressed.

The LiveCode group should be pressured to fix this problem.  There is a future 
on this side because I believe that many developers, like me, will want to get 
out of Apple's clutches, which is always asking for more.

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Alain Vezina
Dir, Logilangue
Montreal, Canada

> Le 21 déc. 2018 à 13:45, kee nethery via use-livecode 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Was thinking of trying it out but the details indicate that it is not yet 
> ready for production.
> Kee
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