app.net is in suspended animation... I wouldn't build anything on it.
g
On 7 Aug 2014, at 2:33 pm, Skip Kimpel skiplon...@gmail.com wrote:
I see that app.net does... Now I'm intrigued.
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Oh! So they are. D'oh. Either way, I use it with no problems.
g
On 30 Jul 2014, at 5:17 pm, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:
Hi Gerry - they’re definitely both in my version of the dictionary (LC
6.6.2).
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I've successfully used browserLoadRequested but I've never heard of
browserLoadRequest. I think you may be missing an ed.
Gerry
On 30 Jul 2014, at 1:33 pm, Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:
OK - I ditched the browserLoadRequest message and just went with trapping
the
Kinda sorta. In iOS 8 if you want to somewhat misuse the service (it's meant
for beta testing) you can use TestFlight and install onto 1000 devices.
https://developer.apple.com/support/appstore/TestFlight/
Gerry
On 3 Jul 2014, at 8:39 am, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:
Apple
Perfect :) Many thanks. A real d'oh moment happening here :)
g
On 28 Jun 2014, at 2:45 pm, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote:
Is this any help?
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I'm playing an .mp3 file in iOS and saving the elapsed playing time (in
milliseconds as reported by the native player) into an sqlite database as it
plays. That's working fine.
I'm now struggling to convert those milliseconds into a MM:SS format for real
time display. Anyone done that?
No.
g
On 18 Jun 2014, at 4:04 am, Dan Friedman d...@clearvisiontech.com wrote:
I'm wondering... Is it possible to display and edit multi-styled text (font
sizes, colors, justifications, etc.) in a native multiline control?
Thanks!
-Dan
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Apologies...it is id 1005, not id 1002 that I have in every template. And I've
never to my recollection deleted any cards from the template stack.
g
On 9 Jun 2014, at 6:23 pm, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote:
A thing I doesn't understand: how are you customizing the row template
theSlug wrote:
1 to 6: This is the normal behavior for all the datagrids:
So weird. I've been using datagrids for a few years and never noticed this...in
fact i've just looked at a couple of old projects and the datagrid template
stacks only have 1 card in them...id 1002.
- You have placed
Can you list for us all the files that should have been included?
g
On 8 Jun 2014, at 9:56 am, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
Hello All:
With help from another list member, I was able to determine that I the server
I use was misconfigured and delivering an incomplete set of
Weirdness going on here with LC commercial 6.5.2 and all versions up to 6.6.2:
1) I drag a new data grid onto a stack
2) in the object inspector I make the datagrid a form datagrid (not strictly
relevant as the problem happens with table datagrids too)
3) in the datagrid templates substack I see
And worth every penny.
I think I'll still roll my own scrollers and table lists etc but for everything
else this beats MobGUI in terms of depth and flexibility. Still a little buggy
(something this sophisticated is bound to have a few problems in early
releases) and the documentation/video
Just in time for iOS 8!
Just kidding - I doubt the UI will change much in the new version. tmControl
looks great - when I start my next project I'll give it try.
Gerry
On 1 Jun 2014, at 5:45 pm, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
It's many long months, dozens of nights without sleep,
Bloody hell...ok ok, I'll get it sooner then :)
g
On 1 Jun 2014, at 6:06 pm, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote:
I neglected mention the new-release discount is available for 1 week.
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Happy I could help :)
g
On 23 May 2014, at 1:30 pm, Rick Harrison harri...@all-auctions.com wrote:
This is exactly what I need!
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There are commands for this. See the dictionary for
iphoneSetReachabilityTarget and reachabilityChanged.
This is what I do. Start with this at the top of your stack script:
global internetAvailable
Then on openstack call this:
iphoneSetReachabilityTarget google.com
Have this in
Dan
Is this the first release of the app? I had a situation where updates to an
existing version were fine but new installs hung for users. Turned out that I'd
introduced a bug that only affected users who didn't already have one of the
files I copy from the binary to the device when the app
Got mine - works so well and I can't wait till the mobile version.
Gerry
On 2 May 2014, at 8:18 am, Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote:
Hey Folks,
I've issued free orders to all those that contributed back then. Please
send feedback once you receive yours.
Cheers
On Thu,
Comrades
An old app I've had on the iOS app store for a couple of years was just updated
for iOS 7. Check it out :) :
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-george-hrapp/id447729252?mt=8
Cheers
Gerry
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Bill, thanks. Amazing that it worked for me on 2 devices, and for Apple, but
some devices seem to be having problems with the database!
I've uploaded a fix (hopefully). It'll be on the Store whenever Apple decides :)
Gerry
On 4 Apr 2014, at 12:50 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org
Could people please limit the text they include from the message they are
quoting when replying? A one line response followed by 50 lines of quoted text
makes scrolling through messages on mobile devices a pain.
Thanks.
Gerry
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Stephen MacLean
Ender wrote:
One cannot update the UI while pulling the content from the server.
Er, yes you can. I'm doing it.
Here's a screencast of it in action:
http://quick.as/qyvjtr47
g
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And here it is with 2 files downloading concurrently:
http://quick.as/yn6aiq18
Gerry
On 12 Feb 2014, at 12:38 pm, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
Ender wrote:
One cannot update the UI while pulling the content from the server.
Er, yes you can. I'm doing it.
Here's
Or, for location:
keyUIBackgroundModes/key
array
stringlocation/string
/array
Gerry
On 11 Feb 2014, at 10:49 am, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW if you need the app to keep playing sound (or tracking location etc)
you'll also need to add
) doesn't fix
the issue.
Here's the bug: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11765
Gerry
On 7 Feb 2014, at 6:37 pm, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
Before I report this as a bug, has anyone else noticed that if you have a
non-full screen native player on a card and then create
Before I report this as a bug, has anyone else noticed that if you have a
non-full screen native player on a card and then create a native browser on the
same card the player disappears. It's still plays...unless you set the URL of
the browser...then the player is destroyed.
Can those native
This WAS too good to be true:
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your order at FocalPrice.com.
We are so sorry to inform you that MH0618W in your order FPGZFDBXHXYT is our
Clearance Center product, which only has limit inventory and has been sold
out already. Due to our system bug, the
I just bought one. I'll let you know if it was worth it in a week or two :)
g
On 4 Feb 2014, at 12:12 pm, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote:
Yeah, that's what's worrying me about it.
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No one ever quits Ender's apps (they are just too good) so he still has a
problem :)
On 28 Jan 2014, at 12:33 am, John Craig j...@splash21.com wrote:
Hi, Ender. The ID's will still increase as the app runs - same as in the
development environment, but when the app is restarted, the
Apps on each monitor now have their own menu bars. I love this feature.
Gerry
On 26 Jan 2014, at 10:57 am, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com
wrote:
that's pretty annoying.
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Nope. Working fine here.
g
On 15 Jan 2014, at 5:40 pm, Nakia Brewer nakia.bre...@westrac.com.au wrote:
Anyone else having trouble logging onto Apple services (Mac AppStore and DEV
centre ?)
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You kinda had it right :) Try:
replace Gl,movement with Gl,12345 in thetext
Easy!
Gerry
On 14 Jan 2014, at 11:57 am, Peter Bogdanoff bogdan...@me.com wrote:
I need to substitute the html linkText in a field with other linkText.
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Hi all
I have a delete button in the row template group of a data grid form.
When the user touches there delete button I do this:
deleteRecord the dgIndex of me
...and I handle that command in the card script with:
on deleteRecord whichRow
dispatch deleteline to group datagrid with
Zryip
Thanks - same problem :(
Gerry
On 9 Jan 2014, at 10:56 am, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com wrote:
Try:
on deleteRecord whichRow
dispatch deleteIndex to group datagrid with whichRow
end deleteRecord
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Yep, thanks - it does. I'm now using the line number, not the index :)
Gerry
On 9 Jan 2014, at 1:01 pm, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
Hope that helps,
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I'm using 45 pixels. And as my app can be themed with different colours I'm
changing the colour of the rectangle behind the status information.
Gerry
On 02/10/2013, at 2:11 PM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:
OK, I see what you mean about the new style. It just would have been
Jim
Why don't you use Monte's mergAV external to make the thumbnails? Quick, clean,
easy!
Gerry
On 03/10/2013, at 11:37 AM, Jim sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote:
Using LC 5.5.5 for dev on iOS
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Paris AND Barcelona?!?
Some people are very very lucky :)
Gerry
On 30/09/2013, at 7:25 PM, Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com wrote:
living in Paris since a couple of years ago. Before living in France I lived
in Barcelona for more than 20 years.
Yep. I have one script that fails when I include:
answer any text
...anywhere in the handler.
Gerry
-- Sent from my iPhone.
On 27 Sep 2013, at 10:32 pm, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
I have a stack running in iOS 6.1.3 that sets up a systembeep in the
openStack handler
René wrote:
I don't understand ! Ihave LiveCode 6.5 (dp 1)… ???
6.5 is an experimental pre-release of a version with significant changes to
many areas of the engine. You'd be mad to be running it as your day-to-day
development environment :)
Gerry
Richmond wrote:
I wonder what the point of a 6.1.2 release is (Ben???)
iOS 7 support.
Gerry
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Richmond wrote:
They can just roll that into 6.5.0
Yes, but 6.5 isn't imminent and iOS developers need to be able to build for the
new iOS ASAP.
Gerry
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Dixie wrote
lunchtime today would be good...
I'm guessing they've had a few unexpected issues come up - they were aiming for
Friday of last week. It would be good to get an updated ETA from the mothership.
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Same here. Also my app fails in numerous ways in the 7.0 simulator :(
Gerry
On 26/09/2013, at 3:28 AM, Ralph DiMola rdim...@evergreeninfo.net wrote:
I'm getting this error when creating iOS standalone:
Linking for armv7 failed with llvm-g++-4.2: error trying to exec
I'm using mergpop but removing it doesn't help :)
g
On 26/09/2013, at 11:26 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote:
If you have any externals you will need iOS 7 builds of those too. I'll get
mergExt ones done ASAP now that the development cycle for 6.1.2 has started.
I have scripts that handle the URL displayed in a browser control.
I found that even if the URL contained zero spaces I still had to change spaces
to %20 to get it to work. Fricken weird.
I think this has now been fixed in the engine - I recall seeing it on a list of
recent fixes?
Gerry
Hi all
I have a Kickstarter reward that entitles me to one free mergExt iOS external.
As I'm a mergExt subscriber I don't really need it so if you want it email me
direct at gerry [dot] orkin {at} gmail (dot) com with mergExt in the subject
line - I'll accept requests for 24 hours (given the
We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices
via xCode...correct?
Gerry
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, this is almost unique to Facebook, we didn't have similar problems
integrating with other services.
Hope that helps,
Mark
From: Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; LiveCode Developer
List livecode
I wrote:
We can't currently install development versions of our apps on iOS 7 devices
via xCode...correct?
Incorrect. I've just installed the iOS 7 GM and I can install development apps
with no problem at all using Monte's MergTestApp.
Whoop de doo!
Gerry
Is that a pig I see flying past the window?
Gerry
On 08/09/2013, at 5:49 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe that IF people voted with their feet and moved over to Linux and
other
alternatives en masse this would bring pressure to bear on Microsoft, Apple
and
Hi all
As you know lots of sites and apps use Facebook authentication to verify user
identities. I'm trying to get that working in iOS using Andre Garcia's Facebook
library. I can get the FB sign on screen but the app always crashes after I
enter my log in details. I'm having no luck debugging
Vaughn
Tom beat me to it re the rect you are using and the delete control stuff.
However I think Tom is wrong about his second delete example since you haven't
given the browser control a name when you create it. Do that this way:
iphoneControlCreate browser, mapbrowser
That way you can
That will delete the group from the stack - is that what the OP wanted??
On 05/09/2013, at 11:18 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:
Go to the main Stack where the offending group is being shown in the IDE and
select Remove Group from the Object Menu. That should do it.
I have been thinking that the list was dead - until I saw 216 messages that
have been filtered into my gmail spam folder.
Ugh.
Gerry
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On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Nicolas Cueto nicon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug
McGrath III
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
mcgra...@mac.com
On Sep 7, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
That will delete the group from the stack - is that what the OP wanted??
On 05/09/2013, at 11:18 AM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:
Go to the main
Can you show us the code you use to create the browser control?
Gerry
On 08/09/2013, at 9:23 AM, Vaughn Clement vclem...@gmail.com wrote:
The browser group is the name of the group object that I am using to
display the Google or MapQuest web site.
Hi all
Any volunteers care to give me feedback on an iOS word game that's nearing
release? Please email me off list :)
Thanks in advance!
Gerry
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I might have missed something but why not download the images the first time
the app ever loads (and store them locally)? As I understand it you'll need to
do that for all the images only the first time it loads, and then from time to
time just download updates? Once downloaded you could cache
So i can use: get URL tFile and then save to a folder inside the ipad app.
Yep. I'd probably .zip a folder with the initial thumbnails that gets
downloaded and expanded the first time your app runs. Expand them into a
thumbnails folder that you create inside the Documents folder on the device.
Data grids are not all that complex once you get the hang of them. But I'm
guessing that the link to online images is your weak spot. Can't they be
located in the device?
Gerry
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Jim sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote:
The iPad app has a set of groups like this:
prepare image file http://yourserver.com/logos/logo.jpg;...
...should do it. Assuming of course that it works on online images...
Gerry
On 05/08/2013, at 3:28 PM, Jim sims s...@ezpzapps.com wrote:
I have 100 thumbnail images on a server that I want to use and reuse, in a
very quick display
on my
experience with other kinds of data it should.
Gerry
On 05/08/2013, at 3:45 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
prepare image file http://yourserver.com/logos/logo.jpg;...
...should do it. Assuming of course that it works on online images
On iOS at least you can't change the binary at run time in any way. Apple won't
allow it.
g
On 30/07/2013, at 12:19 PM, Thomas McGrath III mcgra...@mac.com wrote:
Can you delete a file on mobile if it is in the engine folder?
delete URL (file: specialFolderPath(engine) / tName)
Tom
Monte, thanks. Is there documentation for mApp?
g
On 30/07/2013, at 9:52 AM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote:
Hi Folks
I normally don't spam this list with maintenance release announcements but
this is a fairly critical one for mApp users wanting to work on LC 6.1+. It
I'm getting hangs and the occasional crash on OS X 10.8 with 6.1 commercial.
Never happened before.
Gerry
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB toolb...@kestner.de
wrote:
I don't know, perhaps by copy/paste? But I don't know, if our bugs are
related at all.
In my case it were
Nope :)
g
On 29/06/2013, at 2:18 AM, Sergio Schvarstein sschvarst...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way or tool for creating an Augmented Reality app for iOS using
LiveCode ?
Thanks :-)
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I have an app in the store that uses LiveCode fields. Native fields are useful
where the user has to enter or edit text. I'm not sure why you would not want
to use them if your app requires that sort of interaction.
Gerry
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:51 AM, kee nethery k...@kagi.com wrote:
on keyboardDeactivated
answer The keyboard was deactivated with Okay
end keyboardDeactivated
On 20/06/2013, at 8:06 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de
wrote:
Hi Gerry,
thanks for your suggestion.
This works so far. I am using the inputreturnkey handler in the last
If I understand your problem correctly, try setting the rects of the native
controls (including the multiline one) instead of hiding and showing them. That
way it will appear that they have all moved up the screen so the multiline one
shows above the keyboard.
Gerry
On 18/06/2013, at 7:45
Monte has a Dropbox iOS external.
Gerry
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net
wrote:
Mike Kerner MikeKerner@... writes:
I'm doing this right now, and going back and forth with iOS, as well.
1. Are you doing this to a local dropbox folder, or to the web?
2.
Sounds terrible Ender, but I was surprised by this:
the governor had PROMISED not to attack.
thus, many of us brought children.
Really? After the previous week's events people thought this might be a safe
place to bring chilren?!?
Wishing you well,
Gerry
Colin
So they install, but are they working ok? I'm tempted to download the iOS 7
beta but not if my LC apps stop working :)
Gerry
On 11/06/2013, at 10:37 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
I think things are works. I could drag apps onto Xcode to install them ok.
the the top area
on iPhone 5, so I think it was working correctly.
On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:58 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
So they install, but are they working ok? I'm tempted to download the iOS 7
beta but not if my LC apps stop working
:55 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, but being cautious - can anyone else confirm that iPhone apps built
with LC 6.x and installed with the xCode 5 beta are working fine on iOS 7?
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Ender
I was in Istanbul in September last year staying very near the park and loved
the place - I definitely want to return. Thinking of you all, and hoping that
this process leads to more respect and understanding, and less repression and
religious bigotry.
Cheers
Gerry
Your datagrid should be an object within a locked group. You then set the
vScroll of the datagrid relative to that group when the user swipes the
screen..
g
On 05/06/2013, at 10:29 PM, Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de wrote:
set the dgvScroll of grp DataGrid 1 to OffsetY
Assuming you mean iOS, try this. The following script should let you take a
photo and upload it to an ftp server (and it'll save the image to the iPhone's
photo album too). This is untested :)
on takePhoto thePhotoName
if the environment is mobile then
iPhonePickPhoto rear camera,
True.
g
On 22/05/2013, at 11:37 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
I read on the LC website that iPad was supported. True?
Craig Newman
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, and this is usually why. It's easy to have the
sound muted and not even know it, especially because sound will usually play
through headphones even if the external speakers are muted.
HTH,
Chris
--
Chris Sheffield
Read Naturally, Inc.
www.readnaturally.com
On May 16, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Gerry Orkin
Hi all
I'm trying to play a sound in an iOS app with:
iphonePlaySoundOnChannel specialFolderPath(engine) /house.wav, house,
now
iphoneSetSoundChannelVolume house, 100
The sound plays through the device headphone port but not it's speakers. That
doesn't seem normal :) Any ideas?
Cheers
That bagpipe one has been on the net for years :)
This three piece rock band were very keen to do well at their gig because
they'd heard a big record producer was in the audience. If he liked them they'd
be sure to become the next big thing.
During the first song the lead guitarist was
Whenever I open or close the data grid template stack in a particular stack in
the IDE the openstack and closestack messages in the main stack get triggered.
I've used data grids in a few stacks but haven't seen that behaviour before LC
6.0.1.
What's the deal?
Cheers
Gerry
No and no :)
Gerry
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote:
Do you have any handlers for these in your data grid? Is your datagrid on
more than 1 card?
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
Whenever I open or close the data
passes from the substack to the
mainstack it is handed to the stack not the card.
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
No and no :)
Gerry
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote:
Do you have any handlers
It needs to be re-compiled for LC 4.5.1.
Gerry
On 08/05/2013, at 12:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote:
Very good question. Where IS this time travel external? I have some great
ideas for it.
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Q: You know how to tell if the drum stand has been set up level? A: the drool
seeps out of both sides of the drummer's mouth.
Q: What do you call a musician without a girlfriend? A: Homeless.
I've got a few more... :)
Gerry
On 08/05/2013, at 2:15 PM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
OK,
That seems to disallow stacks that go to other stacks in the same app? My app
does that :)
Gerry
On 02/05/2013, at 4:10 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote:
Apps that install or launch other executable code will be rejected
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That's correct.
Gerry
On 17/04/2013, at 4:48 PM, Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com wrote:
Is that correct or am I missing something?
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Yes, use a native input control (see page 70 of the 6.0 iOS release notes).
When the user taps in the control the keyboard shows (or you can have it show
when the control is initially created or made visible). You can specify that
your keyboard has a Done key - hitting that will hide the
John
If you just want to use LC fields they can be grouped and moved via script to
upwards new locations when the keyboard is activated.
Gerry
On 15/04/2013, at 3:01 PM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote:
The idea I was trying for was that if there were fields at the bottom of my
card
I use Animation Engine to smoothly move things.
Gerry
On 14/04/2013, at 10:59 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote:
I need to move all the objects underneath down to
make room for the hidden group associated with the button to be displayed.
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Er I don't think that is right. Many many apps and services require login on
iOS...
Gerry
On 11/04/2013, at 2:20 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
You can't have a licensing or registration system of your own, you must rely
on Apple to verify that your users have the right
Try focus on nothing
Gerry
On 10/04/2013, at 12:42 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote:
How the heck do I get rid of this keyboard???
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Ooops. I should read to the end of threads, shouldn't I :)
Gerry
On 10/04/2013, at 4:12 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote:
ugh. yes, that works. Thanks, Tom.
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The ios player control is buggy and always has been. I've lodged a few bug
reports but nothing has changed - so maybe try mergAV instead? See mergext.com.
Gerry
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Apps Foundry appsfoundr...@gmail.com
wrote:
I am trying to build a museum kiosk app for a client.
Excellent - have you uploaded the new one to your site?
Gerry
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Monte Goulding
mo...@sweattechnologies.com=mailto:mo...@sweattechnologies.com; wrote:
but now that I understand that limitation I've got mergDataGridScroller
working smoothly.
On Mon, Mar
Speaking of developing for iPhone 5/Retina, is there a way to ensure that
*only* Retina devices can run your app?
Gerry
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My iOS scrolling data grids jitter all the time and I've never drunk a cup of
coffee in my life :)
Gerry
On 25/03/2013, at 1:22 PM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com wrote:
I'm only noticing the jitters when the scrolling field is in a set of nested
groups. (And when I've exceeded
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