Re: [on-rev] Tio not responding since early evening

2018-03-15 Thread Robert Mann via use-livecode
All is back, seems support reacted like a rocket!! whouahouu!! Impressed. Now, thre was an option to delete a msg. How to do that!?? can't find it! thanks -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___

[on-rev] Tio not responding since early evening

2018-03-15 Thread Robert Mann via use-livecode
Hi is anybody else monitoring such a problem or is it just my account? thanks! -- no access to websites -- no access to mail -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: The coming of SVG

2017-11-07 Thread Robert Mann via use-livecode
Hi all, long time not around, but clarity in language is a key point so my 2 cents : 1) I would much favor DRAWING versus image. The core differentation of a vector image is that it has been drawn versus "shot" by a camera for an image. That can be physically understood by all. The idea of a

Re: Logic Flow Chart App

2016-08-30 Thread Robert Mann
What about the ID5 route? Long time ago I had been taken in the "expert system" mode. I used ID5 algorithm to optimize the decision trees. it's a "decision aid " algorithm that was implemented in quite a few PC tools long time ago. You would just fill in a table with criterias and values, and the

Re: Ideas for LiveCode workshops - help needed

2016-08-04 Thread Robert Mann
How about something really down to earth? >> a simple database, like filemaker, that help dealing with day to day web >> research : • grab web pages picture and the link, • allow to write notes & emails • and basic search & ordering functions. or is filemaker simpler to set and use than

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-26 Thread Robert Mann
> But now we have no choice but to ask these would be collaborators on front > end stack development to use other tools. Exactly the opposite to > contributing to the "health of the livecode ecosystem." @ Brahmanathaswami i've always felt concerned that GPL should NOT extend to media

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-22 Thread Robert Mann
For the WE, you might find these links on the issue of applying copyright to programming languages, informative : Can Copyright Protect a Language? Google beats Oracle—Android

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-22 Thread Robert Mann
I also don't see anything wrong with the GPL license being attached to LC community. i've although thought it was a great way to differentiate. And i find absolutely right and positive that any standalone built with the community version be under GPL, as far as the code is concerned. But, having

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-22 Thread Robert Mann
Hi Kay! i'm "stunned" when I read this sentence : > LiveCode the language, just like the AppleScript language, is > proprietary subject to license terms and conditions. It would be helpful if you could precise your source, thanks Is that an extract from the LC license? It would also be

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-21 Thread Robert Mann
Mark, your words reflect 100% my position on that epic subject. -- It seems to me a good thing to outline again and again, that any ruling on such a license matter will "set the law" and will most probably override any subsequent change in the license. I do have a legal background, and we're all

Re: Licensing AGAIN [was: Sharing FontLab Plugin]

2016-07-20 Thread Robert Mann
"" - If the app is open source, this definitely violates either the Apple store agreement or the LiveCode Community copyright license (GPLv3). - If the app is closed-source, this definitely violates the LiveCode Indy end user license agreement and probably also the LiveCode Community copyright

Re: HTML5 standalone from Livecode 8.0.1

2016-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
No angry bird, just peace here! on safari 5.1.6 os X 10.7.4 Exception thrown, see javascript console : ANGRY.html:177run() called, but dependencies remain, so not running ANGRY.html:177pre-main prep time: 416 ms standalone-community-8.0.1-rc-1.js:1ReferenceError: Can't find variable:

Re: Recording internal sound (Mac) - possible?

2016-05-12 Thread Robert Mann
Hi you might find some info and a turnaround here : recent post on audio recording . -- View this message in context:

Re: Infinite LiveCode - Message from CEO

2016-05-12 Thread Robert Mann
Same thought from France! and approximatively same wait period of more than 10 years for audio recording at 44100 kHz compressed audio. Now I suspect one point of view would be be :: "well that is precisely what we want to clear.. by allowing faster wrapping of existing utilities.. we need the

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Robert Mann
>> That lengthy thread explored possible ways to attempt to circumvent LiveCode Community's downstream GPL requirements. That exploration was an attempt to understand and clarify some tricky issues in the new FOSS licensing situation. Some members who participated to that effort of

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Robert Mann
Just a precision though : In a former, not so old, enormous thread dealing with the FOSS license and trying to understand what it meant in practice, one of the conclusion was that *only Livecode can dual license*. Nobody else can do that. And Kevin Miller really pushed hard on that point.

Re: Revenue and the Open Source edition

2016-05-03 Thread Robert Mann
I goes one of the central issue of a community version.. is.. community!? How to make people feel member of the community? get them involved? One way of doing that is to let people buy something maybe not much, but something. That was the idea of the pay once upgrade when you feel which was

Re: LC7 Community - Documentation window does not appear

2016-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks, to close the matter neatly, i've just added a minutes utility stack at rev online that referenced this thread and that I put in my plugins in case it does happen later and I forget about it! -- View this message in context:

Re: LC7 Community - Documentation window does not appear

2016-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks Kay.. that was it!! -- Yes I use dual monitors all the time. -- Setting the loc made the ghost reappear! I thought it could be something like that but i did not have the name of the Dictionnary stack as it does not appear in the list of stacks in the application browser. May this thread

LC7 Community - Documentation window does not appear

2016-04-27 Thread Robert Mann
Hi i'm getting back into livecodde and have the surprise that the doc window does not open. When I click on the doc icon, it looks like something happens and in the list of windows, the documentation appears rightly. But cannot be seen! same if I call it from the menu. context :: LC 7.13 on

Re: [on-rev] connection ok, but ftp command "timeout" (again)

2016-04-27 Thread Robert Mann
Ok thanks I've send a msg to on-rev support. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/on-rev-connection-ok-but-ftp-command-timeout-again-tp4703900p4703903.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[on-rev] connection ok, but ftp command "timeout" (again)

2016-04-27 Thread Robert Mann
Hi, I'm puzzled, I've been working on a site on my on-rev account last evening/night. I use Interarchy ftp app on mac. All was fine. But then the ftp connection stopped working while I uploaded a file. And does not seem to come back to a workable state. At that point, i was asked to type in the

Re: model oriented programming

2016-04-27 Thread Robert Mann
The GSL tool described at the end of the document linked is very similar to livecode-server. Thanks for the link, it rang a bell in my mind! So with LC server, have these two tools for abstraction : -- procedure oriented : script -- object/hierchy oriented : html (& interface objects for LC

Re: recording sound

2016-04-25 Thread Robert Mann
Thank you Phil for this smart "turn-around". I so wish audio would be "straightened up" in livecode! Amazing for a language in the heritage of hyper talk! Additionnaly, I wanted to have a clue :: do other user manage to record any audio with v7 on later osx than 10.7? Does it work on 10.8.. 9..

Re: recording sound files

2016-04-23 Thread Robert Mann
this is the test stack used : sound_formats_test-legacy.livecode -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/recording-sound-files-tp4703804p4703805.html

recording sound

2016-04-23 Thread Robert Mann
I'm into sound again. I let down a project down 10 years ago, that needed good quality compressed audio... And want to check if 10 years afterwards, this has become a possibility I need to record on mac os desktop machine : -- 44100 khz, stéreo 16bit compressed aac etc. ideally mp3 to be able

Re: Indy Licensing

2016-04-13 Thread Robert Mann
maybe that this Licensing questions are off-topic for this mailing list -- but our support team at [hidden email] would be delighted to answer your question. should be read as : *Personnal licensing questions* are off-topic for this mailing list -- but our support team at [hidden email]

Re: Release 6.7.10 RC 1 / 7.1.3 RC 1

2016-03-05 Thread Robert Mann
Added to that, it is a very nice and very respectful attention of the livecode team to maintain these last builds that are still governed by the perpetual licenses that existed in the previous century. (sigh.. mine stopped at 6.6.5 sniff!) -- View this message in context:

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-04 Thread Robert Mann
I shall too, for myself, just apply the rules stated directly or indirectly by livecode. These were not, at all, as crystal clear as it seemed. And that is precisely why I took time to research, clarify and exchange here. [ Actually, there was a last issue raised, still un-cleared : I still do

Re: [Blog] Script Only Stacks

2016-03-03 Thread Robert Mann
I guess you checked that the first line is not empty and that there is no space before the first line? "script" must be at the beginning of first line. Engine is very pick at that. And sometimes the engine/ide adds another line at top, leading to 2 lines starting with "script" so in the erasing

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-03 Thread Robert Mann
<< I believe any media or other content (whether separate files or not) distributed with the application and/or required to make it function fully would need to be licensed in a GPL compatible license.>> Hi Monte, I believe (!) that this belief is kind of a key issue in attempting to identify

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Mann
yap.. in that respect.. with all respect to live code and every team member.. I honestly earnastly was astonished by the virulence of the clause forbidding any tier to take a community work and turn it into a commercial application. I sort of "naively" believed that there was quite a good

Re: Summary: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Mann
hi, thanks for confirming what I guess is motherships point of view. That was'n at all crystal clear, but you now made it clear : no split license what so ever for live code community. << Absolutely every piece of software is derived from a set of files which can be considered the 'source code'

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-02 Thread Robert Mann
Spot on! Thanks Jacqueline, That is exactly the choice I have : 1. make a viewer of a special kind of media aggregate with the community version under GPL & deliver these media aggregate in a separate file under whatever license. (plus i'll document that format so that others can produce such

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
RE : issue of including copyrighted media into a stack. << The creators of the works retain copyright even as they offer specific rights with regard to distribution to others. No distribution license is a transfer of copyright. Not in film, not in software. >> So.. did my homework again,

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
OUps!! that IS DAMN CLEAR! By Jove!! So ok.. fine.. as one could rephrase the situation : 2) if you do not make it public, than when you're ready, you're free to a) buy a closed commercial license and THEN b) turn for help to an indie/pro developer to finish it up and prepare it for iOS

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Ok, fine.. that is.. somehow more "logical" !! So that leads to 2 practical consequences : 1) what seems to be important is the timing of making publicly available some code : -- if you "release" some code under GPL for testing out an app -- and than later on turn to the closed IDE to produce a

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
RE : issue : does livecode consider that all illustrative material & text etc in a stack to their view fall under GPL << I suppose if your goal was to write LiveCode scripts and publish them as a printed volume for your coffee table that might make a very good analogy. >> No, in my case I've

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks for your piper mail link. I found your article very informative (and a breeze to read!). I'll retain that what's actually written in the GPL license.. is like toilet paper What counts is the creators position... Fine. And that'll close the subject of the status of the stack files for me

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
But.. but.. ??? << With respect to your Question 2, the Indy license doesn't have to specifically forbid a service where someone with a freer license compiles code on your behalf. You can't build an actual Livecode application without using the IDE, so if you used the Community IDE your

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks Richard.. that one a good example of.. "leonine" clause as we say in France... as we say :: El diabolo hides in small details. Coming back to Livecode OS I'm really surprised that nobody seem to have considered stacks as being not only programs but multimedia interactive media, and the

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
indeed.. I do have an android phone!! And I read the GNU license for good, and the FAQ's for good, and some discussions 1) my personal conclusion reading these is that the assumption you make about stack files falling under GPL is.. questionable, but.. arguable, particularly if there are

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
The price rise in the commercial license has led me to try understand the Opens SOurce License, although I had always in my mind to keep with a commercial license ideally. And that leads to big surprises. I'll be doing a little bit of homework on that. *Question 1 :: is there somewhere a kind

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-03-01 Thread Robert Mann
Hi that is surely one way of helping "hobbyist" :: suggesting they get help from a pro.. and give 'em some work! !? But that is not the point I made. As a former publisher of BOOKS, the point I made is : what are the rules?? What protection (rules) applies to WHAT? What can we do/not do with

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-02-29 Thread Robert Mann
actually blocked. > > So it might be worth asking Livecode if they'd be willing to add an > exception to their GPL license allowing "hobbyists" to distribute a > closed-source library that is not compiled into the GPL-licensed > standalone. That would allow "hob

Re: Open source, closed source, and the value of code

2016-02-29 Thread Robert Mann
hi folks, what is this fuss about? First : no. The allegation about hypercard forcing the open source path on all usage is not true. There was a command to protect a stack ("protect" of course!) . And some interesting pieces of software were sold as protected stacks. And it is precisely that

An open source mis-understanding!?

2016-02-28 Thread Robert Mann
In earlier days, (once upon a time!!) there were people who wrote stories. These stange "hobbits" used to buy pencils from their fellow at the local shop. One day, an even stranger fellows among these, told them, hey :: let's get the pencil-ware "open sourced". it'll be free for-ever!! For-ever

Re: LiveCode for Educators (was LiveCode for the Hobbyists)

2016-02-28 Thread Robert Mann
Hi all, I wrote a "summary" contribution in the orginal thread I laucched the debate on, to explain more clearly the psychological side that motivates the HOBBYIST Bear... some clever guys here seem to not incorportate that kind of elements in their thinking/writing. *We are humans, still!* And

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-02-28 Thread Robert Mann
Thank you Dirk, we really have a very similar point of view (i went through on-rev support.. mobile launching support etc.. and quite a few, and yes, stopped at perpetual licence!) Please do re-read the following quotes with a different view than the "professional" viewpoint. Please do imagine

Re: Players in HTML5 - ETA for Full Functionality?

2016-02-26 Thread Robert Mann
Just for information... I must not be the single one that has sort of waited 10 years for JUST : >> a revamped audio implementation that simply allows to use COMPRESSED >> audio within stacks, and not be obliged to develop external solutions >> (which I did, but is then trick y to use for

Re: [On-Rev] TIO: again all index files were overwritten

2016-01-21 Thread Robert Mann
Here it goes again to on my account on too. All index files corrupted. And have to work on a site fast!! So 'i'll do the restoring myself.. again! Anyways.. thanks team for being on the watch out, => as said it would be really nice just to have a mailing list of users and warn them so that we can

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-07 Thread Robert Mann
CLOSURE ON THAT SUBJECT :: had to reinstall corrupted files / folders 1. Because I did not have a save copy locally (now I have!) 2. Because they only seem to have one daily backup and told me the corrupted files had just been corrupted before backup... ?? how can they not have a d-1 backup?? I

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-05 Thread Robert Mann
no php used on my account. Only are pure "lc" sites. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/On-Rev-Tio-could-someone-test-the-index-html-files-in-her-his-account-on-Tio-tp4699843p4699930.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-05 Thread Robert Mann
Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D wrote > I noticed that on the 28th and informed On-Rev Support. At that time they > were already running a script which tried to restore the data from a > backup. Unfortunately not all accounts were successfully restored. So i > had to restore my data manually. => I

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Mann
ooops!! all my test sites are down with this re-written index file!!! COuld anybody expand on how is that possible? is that an error from the maintenance team or an outsider attack? -- View this message in context:

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Mann
Details :: all my index files on my on-rev account on too were changed on TUESDAY 29th December at 09:02 -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/On-Rev-Tio-could-someone-test-the-index-html-files-in-her-his-account-on-Tio-tp4699843p4699919.html Sent

Re: [On-Rev Tio] could someone test the index.html files in her/his account on Tio?

2016-01-04 Thread Robert Mann
..and all files named index have been changed everywhere at all folder levels, independently of the postfix (.html, .lc, .rev) So I asked the team to replace all content of my account with a backup anytime in december priori to 29th since i did not do any change to it in december. -- View this

Re: Feature Exchange - Find and Replace

2015-11-19 Thread Robert Mann
Hi! I'me a bit puzzled.. i've been waiting about 10 years for a comfortable audio framework within runrev/livecode that would allow all of us to use embed compressed audio within live code stacks and exchange kind of "audio cards" easily over the internet. Well, damn it... ! So.. an addition to

Re: LC7 - Editor so slow make it Unusable (mac os x 10.7.4)! Solution?

2015-05-13 Thread Robert Mann
Precision : it really is the script editor, which is SO SLOW I have to force quit... ! But if an app is simply loaded, things are fine. -- I tried to empty My Livecode and provide only empty Externals Plugins folders, but no success! -- View this message in context:

Re: LC7 - Editor so slow make it Unusable (mac os x 10.7.4)! Solution?

2015-05-13 Thread Robert Mann
Yap! I tried a few : there clearly are some non compatible fonts that drive the livecode editor crazy (I mean.. damn slow!) I had the comic sans set and changed to defaut font to see if that could change and it did. Then : -- american trypwriter is ok -- chalkboard is ok -- brushScript is BAD --

Re: LC7 - Editor so slow make it Unusable (mac os x 10.7.4)! Solution?

2015-05-13 Thread Robert Mann
SOLVED! Just changed the fonts and sizes for the editor, in the preference panes and that solved the problem. Previously I had a hand script fonts selected and that seems to have cause the problem. -- View this message in context:

Re: [LC Server] using a stack as a small database to store contacts emails - how to deal with concurrent inputs?

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Possibly some refinements with the text only format of script libraries discussed along. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LC-Server-using-a-stack-as-a-small-database-to-store-contacts-emails-how-to-deal-with-concurrent-inp-tp4691609p4691611.html

Re: [LC Server] using a stack as a small database to store contacts emails - how to deal with concurrent inputs?

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Quick dirty live code server semaphore --- context : using a server stack as dynamic data storage medium in relation to a site. How secure would that be, in terms of avoiding loss of data? We have 2 server server stacks : a) a siteStack which receives http

[LC Server] using a stack as a small database to store contacts emails - how to deal with concurrent inputs?

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Hi! I'll be back into setting up sites after taking a long time off LC into music instrument designs... I'll need to gather some information like contacts emails and thought of using a server stack that I could then use in many ways and simply upload on to the desktop to add functions and do

Re: Plain text library stacks

2015-04-28 Thread Robert Mann
Hi bouncing on my present subject which is how to implement a a simple semaphore system to be used by server stacks : could that simple forma t(and I suppose fast to load) be used to store some data along scripts, e.i for a semaphore? -- when loaded in memory, is it parsed and checked? are there

Re: [ANN] - MaterLibrary Version 8 is available

2014-11-16 Thread Robert Mann
Thanjs Michael, great job; I also started to tidy up everything in my libs. How can we participate? submit? *I did not quite get it how one can append the topic list?* /If we could, then we could use the same library stack for our own use, and easily share to you for appending, or directly to

livecode versions what do the various suffix mean? DP/RC/GM

2014-10-30 Thread Robert Mann
Self explaining in title! Dummy question.. but.. can't find information easily in the live code account space. dp = ?? rc = ?? gm = ?? thanks.. ! -- View this message in context:

Re: [OFF] Cool Plugins

2014-05-11 Thread Robert Mann
Hi I would be happy to help advance the tools we have to share plugins etc... I've never co-worker in an open source thingy, so I would not be an initiator but a follower. How does such a group get constituted? Could something like *LOOMIO* provide a first group backbone? (/collaborative decision

Re: [on-rev] Problem with revIgniter on DIESEL - any clue!?

2013-09-08 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks for the info. So far David could not solve the problem on DIESEL, my account has been moved to TIO where everything works fine! Mystery, mystery..! -- View this message in context:

[on-rev] Problem with revIgniter on DIESEL - any clue!?

2013-09-06 Thread Robert Mann
My revIgniter sites throw an error related to file paths since the last few last days. I have looked in revIgniter files to identify the problem. Checked the confif files were OK. Could find no clue except this possible bug 9869 *depending on the server version*. I asked david at on-rev support

Re: on-rev no incoming email

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Mann
I had the surprise yesterday, David has been at it and things are back, except one thing : revIgniter is not getting back the file path info as it used to be, and so is broken! So my revIgniter sites are down..; Anybody has a clue? == error returned file

Re: on-rev no incoming email

2013-09-05 Thread Robert Mann
Hi, if somebody has a webstite on DIESEL built on top of revIgniter, please check and let me know if all is fine. That might help identify a problem on my on-rev account. Thanks, Robert -- View this message in context:

Re: revOnline and Open Source

2013-08-01 Thread Robert Mann
So to sum it up : 1. Situation is a big mess :: all stacks published at revOnline are ab initio protected by copyright, which is in apparent conflict with the purpose of revOnline, which is to share code ideas and code. 2. Authors SHOULD specify the terms and license they agree upon 3. Clearly,

Re: revOnline and Open Source

2013-08-01 Thread Robert Mann
I totally agree with you :: things should be simple. Simple for us, simple for th experimented commercial developer helping us out, simple for Kevin, simple for the 12 yrs old newcomer, simple and clear for everybody := revOnline =equals= freely shared no strings attached. Full point. I believe

Re: revOnline and Open Source

2013-07-31 Thread Robert Mann
Oups! i'm surprised. I thought the opposite would be true :: if nothing specified, it's deemed public knowledge? As far as patents are concerned, once a mechanism is documented on line, it is deemed to be public knowledge and thus no more patentable (one could do it but anybody knowing the prior

Re: Making a bad impression on MacUpdate

2013-06-09 Thread Robert Mann
Hi ! I recently bought a soft there and took a look at Livecode.; and was a little bit.. angry to see some harsh comments on live code, so I answered back (Robert something) It seems to me a good idea to encourage the list to go and add some responsible experienced views instead of fast one-minute

Re: Odin down ?

2013-05-27 Thread Robert Mann
Again! monday 27th... trouble to get via Interachy cannot identify my on-rev server on odin, no ip found. It did work all right last week ! is it me or? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Odin-down-tp4664725p4665477.html Sent from the Revolution -

RE: Odin down ?

2013-05-27 Thread Robert Mann
thanks, I actually killed my msg.. (or thought I did!!) since the odin doors opened up again. It seems that it's kind of an intermitent problem from I hear of you too. Thanks and sorry to the list for distrubance! -- View this message in context:

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Hi interested too by this way to load stacks.. but I cannot get it to work on my on-rev server : I get a stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file Am i the only one? - the file is accessible with 755 rights set to it and its parent folder within the on-rev space, - i can reach the file ok with

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Thanks for the warning, I re-checked as following :-- tried to upLoad as txt, bin or mapped-- then checked by launching the stacks from Interarchy, with the open with option i regularly use for working with stack files on on-rev.= indeed the save as txt format proved.. bad! crashes LC6 on load

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Yes! thanks for the correction! I couldn't get to that point.. because *the problem lies somewhere on my on-rev server.* indeed calling the sample test stack with the nabble link works fine (once the result line corrected!) So question is /do other guy than me have a problem with that command

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Yes! thanks for the correction! I couldn't get to that point.. because the problem lies somewhere on my on-rev server. indeed calling the sample test stack with the nabble link works fine (once the result line corrected!) So question is do other guy than me have a problem with that command in

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Ok I corrected the loading test stack (put the result in tTheLongIdofTheTargetField does not work!) which is here : goStackURL.livecode http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/file/n4665298/goStackURL.livecode and which has the test addresses ready to click, and that shows the result

[ON-REV] by the way what happened to on-rev ftp editor?

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
• Last week, on opening on-rev editor version 2 (latest?!) i got a msg kind of a new version is on the way.. just.. go and get a pint of beer! set of! (actually there was new download link but did not work) • Today the editor just freezes (wanted to try an alternative upload to interarchy), no

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
Yeap!! Brilliant!! That is it... the LC server Beast was ruling the file system behind the scene!! So I'think it's going to be a good idea for me to go and append the documentation of go stack url for on-rev users and put a warning for the ones who would try and download a stack from a folder

Re: start using stack

2013-05-23 Thread Robert Mann
good idea true, although one could deal with that security issue voluntarily by giving rights to execute only and not download... Note added! thanks again. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/start-using-stack-tp4665159p4665311.html Sent from the

Re: RevIgniter current on-rev LiveCode server version

2013-05-18 Thread Robert Mann
Hi I confirm I do have the latest revIgniter package installed on the current on-rev, no problem. Hope you find the glitch. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/RevIgniter-current-on-rev-LiveCode-server-version-tp4665045p4665052.html Sent from the

Re: [FRIVOLITY] the customKeys[direct] notation...

2013-05-18 Thread Robert Mann
Indeedd thanks.. I must have been working to late.. I forgot some references to the card in my tests, and they are absolutely necessary! The following brute test confirms the [] works fine : set the custompropertySet of this card to testSet set the titi[] of this card to hello set the

Re: scrolling stack I made

2013-05-18 Thread Robert Mann
wouhaou!! Impressed! ...add a vertical change of view direction and you'll have made that funky 3D desktop some of us must have fantasized about! Warm thank you : It's so interesting to see how things work behind the scene. And one can measure the live code path since the first scrollable groups a

Re: Has anyone had problems with 6.0.1 Commercial activating

2013-05-17 Thread Robert Mann
Yes I did have too. About a week ago, Msg stated 6.01 RC1 was no more valid. So i used the 6OS version, and older ones, and I will dig that matter next week. -- View this message in context:

[FRIVOLITY] the customKeys[direct] notation...

2013-05-17 Thread Robert Mann
Hi... from a french guy who could not make it to scotland... having forgotten to renew his Id card! cheers! Working with cProps a lot lately for a kind of server-stack xml dbase that works smoothly both on desktop and on the server and that I was to present at the conference, as a nifty tool to

Re: Odin down ?

2013-05-12 Thread Robert Mann
I think I'm (or was on) ODIN... and my sites are running back, but... but... I can't update anything : -- Interarchy answers :: i 'can't get the IP of the server, so get lost! -- On-Rev (was working yesterday saturday..) :: you can no longer use this version, please download a new one... but ::

Re: Temporary Website Outage Expected

2013-05-10 Thread Robert Mann
Not the best timing just before run rev live!!! Boy! I had planned to finish some work on my server for that event, and a planned presentation... I was relying on my on-rev server!! 4 DAYS off.. I'm embarrassed! Ill'' call to see how I can have access to another on-rev server temporarily?

Re: Temporary Website Outage Expected

2013-05-10 Thread Robert Mann
Yeah what happened is that I just noticed INTERACHY can no more access, and answer can't determine IP address of server. I got used to it so practical to save back on to the server! But the less practical on-rev FTP program works fine so far, as well as the revIgniter service that sits over

Re: So stoked about the possibilities for Open Source

2013-02-24 Thread Robert Mann
I could jump into the lifetime bucket as I already did for on-rev founder, but for 1200£. Can't afford 2400 and I'm confident it could attract many of us and maybe save the run...! A little prayer!! God do you hear me??? (clin d'oeil at Kevin) -- View this message in context:

Re: about the GPL version, and password protection...

2013-02-16 Thread Robert Mann
Hi, as I mentionned earlier on int that thread : http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Open-source-LC-server-and-revigniter-td4660146.html Jacqueline Landman Gay made a comprhensive answer as the most probable position :

Re: Open source, LC server and revigniter

2013-02-06 Thread Robert Mann
Hi fantastic news and bravo to the team... now one more question regarding LC server : Will LC server OS be able to open a protected stack like ZYGODACT which is made to help authentification at sites or to sell softwares, and obviously, that is protected...? If not, will there be a commercial

Re: DataGrids with no UI

2012-09-28 Thread Robert Mann
HI Ralph, Yes indeed! I actually made that specially to get along with revIgniter, and thought I could well participate and make it available as a revIgniter contribution, at least the basic dbstack for use with revServer. It will be nice to test and have feedback from you and others. I should

Re: DataGrids with no UI

2012-09-27 Thread Robert Mann
Hi all! I take the occasion to inform the list that I shall make available a new data structure that i called dbStack. It is a stack that uses arrays in custom properties, on cards, to store any kind of data. But it keeps the analogy of stack/cards/fields. The basic idea I followed was that fields

Re: Forwarded from Grandpa L

2012-04-04 Thread Robert Mann
Many thanks for this great link. How to improve teaching? How to self teach yourself? This is one of the greatest question... (the next one being :: what for? what to do with knowledge!?) Episode 1 : Its a long time since I had the intuition that videos could serve to a great extend. I launched

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