Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-09 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
Mark, This post is hereby awarded the ‘exposition clarity badge’. You should sew it onto your sleeve (with all the others), and wear with pride. I never felt I understood the problem, let alone possible solutions, and now I think I do both. A really interesting read, thank you. Cheers,

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-03-08 14:51, Roger Eller via use-livecode wrote: So... Why not convert the forms to high-res (300+ dpi) PNG or JPEG as Mark suggests as one of the many options, and overlay LiveCode fields to create an app for filling the form? Once filled in, merge the high-res image with the

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-08 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 8 Mar 2017, at 10:59 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > - Option 1 - bi-level background images > > Here I'm assuming that your original PDFs do not change that often and (given > the > requirements you have found out from the government

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-08 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
So... Why not convert the forms to high-res (300+ dpi) PNG or JPEG as Mark suggests as one of the many options, and overlay LiveCode fields to create an app for filling the form? Once filled in, merge the high-res image with the collected field data into a fresh new PDF generated via the Quartum

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-08 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Dr Hawkins, I've been away on holiday for just over a week, and this thread has got quite long, so I thought it easier to answer the original post rather than some off shoot on it. On 2017-03-03 00:13, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: I just got off the phone with the court clerk in

ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-06 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Bob, on Tue Mar 7 2017, Bob Sneidar wrote: > the PDF has to be set up to "read" the FDF file when it opens No, after using "flatten" in PDFTK, the FDF content is embedded into the PDF file. For this reason, all interactive fields are not editable anymore. Does anyone try this command in

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I can tell you that FDF files work on virtually every PDF viewer/editor for any platform. But the PDF has to be set up to "read" the FDF file when it opens, otherwise you need to create a button that asks for the file (using javascript) and then populates from whatever file the user selects.

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hi, If your objective is just displaying a PDF then you can use a RevBrowser window to do that, and even use PDF.js if you want: https://mozilla.github.io/pdf.js/ This would allow you to display the files as they are but won't help you change or create new files. On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:13

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-06 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > If your objective is just displaying a PDF then you can use a RevBrowser > window to do that, and even use PDF.js if you want: > The intent is to display the pdf file that is about to be created, so that the user can

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Using the free command line utility PDFTK, I could fill a pdf with interactive fields using just a text file formatted as a fdf document (that you could generate with LiveCode). Tested and works in Windows and Ubuntu Linux. Could you test if this works on MacOSX? pdftk.exe C:\PDFwithForms.pdf

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 2:05 AM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If You HAVE tom use the ACTUAL government PDF and be pixel perfect then how > can you be printing anything of any type out as a pdf > whether with eps or any changed fields - maybe I haen't read

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 3/4/2017 3:10 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: > On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> What is this XPDF viewer you speak of? Not showing up in the LC dictionary. > > a unix pdf display program. > > XPDF is not a

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What is this XPDF viewer you speak of? Not showing up in the LC dictionary. a unix pdf display program. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > err... are the forms already created? Or are you trying to create the > forms from scratch programaticaly? If the former, I wrote an application > that does just that. I first create a fillable

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 3/3/2017 11:10 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > What is this XPDF viewer you speak of? Not showing up in the LC dictionary. > > Bob S Available only with Business License and for a while it was missing from the Dictionary, but you can find it in LC 8.1.3 or the latest 9.0 dp builds.

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-04 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Maybe I'm being dense here but If You HAVE tom use the ACTUAL government PDF and be pixel perfect then how can you be printing anything of any type out as a pdf whether with eps or any changed fields - maybe I haen't read all the posts but am I missing something? Can you explain in 1 place

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
What is this XPDF viewer you speak of? Not showing up in the LC dictionary. Bob S > On Mar 3, 2017, at 13:29 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: > > So the XPDF viewer lets you grab the text from PDFs, the formattedRect > of any selected Text, and the page

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
err... are the forms already created? Or are you trying to create the forms from scratch programaticaly? If the former, I wrote an application that does just that. I first create a fillable form, then (for OS other than OS X) I create an FDF file using a simple one liner Javascript command and

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Do you mean you want to take 2 or more PDF's and combine them? That is what merging PDF's means I think. If this is the issue, I think we had a thread about this a while back where virtually any PDF editing app is capable of this. In addition, with OS X you can select multiple PDF's and open

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Bite your tongue@ It's full blown Unix we are told!! ;-) Bob S > On Mar 2, 2017, at 15:24 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Mac is sorta/kinda Linux. I wonder if something could be done about that. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > So the XPDF viewer lets you grab the text from PDFs, the formattedRect > of any selected Text, and the page (or ant portion of the rendered page) > as an Image in addition to just viewing a PDF

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 12:44 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What's wrong with an SVG image? > > I suppose those work too. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
So the XPDF viewer lets you grab the text from PDFs, the formattedRect of any selected Text, and the page (or ant portion of the rendered page) as an Image in addition to just viewing a PDF I assume the issue that you view EPS as high resolution for the purposes of printing the PDF form back out

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
What's wrong with an SVG image? Richmond. On 3/3/17 9:27 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: As for on screen display, an eps should be far simpler than the containers for video and so forth. Also, an eps is/should

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > > As for on screen display, an eps should be far simpler than the containers > for video and so forth. > Also, an eps is/should be the preferred format for a business's logo, for the same scaling reasons. -- Dr. Richard

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > What I absolutely need is to be able to use an eps (or an arbitrarily sized >> png) as an inserted image in the same way as a jpg, gif, or png. >> > > GIMP can be used to do all of this.

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 3/3/17 7:59 pm, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: Its likely I'm being dense here... but does the PDF viewer not meet your needs? No; it really isn't even in the same range. What I

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I think Dr Hawkins wants to enter data into the PDF documents rather than either view them or extract data from them. Richmond. On 3/3/17 6:55 pm, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: Its likely I'm being dense here... but does the PDF viewer not meet your needs?

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
By the way . . . I have to send various PDF forms to my sons in the USA and Germany with my signature on the original PDF. I open the PDF in GIMP, add a layer to the relevant page, and overlay a PNG of my signature (I signed my name using my Wacom tablet into GIMP and extracted the pen

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Its likely I'm being dense here... but does the PDF viewer not meet your > needs? > No; it really isn't even in the same range. What I absolutely need is to be able to use an eps (or an

RE: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
7 10:25 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dr. Hawkins; Alejandro Tejada Subject: Re: ouch: the beginning of the end On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have used LiveCode (then MetaCard) to write content in PDF &

Re: ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-03 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Its likely I'm being dense here... but does the PDF viewer not meet your needs? https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pdf-viewer/ Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com >

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have just tried to import an EPS file in LC 9.0.0 DP-5 on Linux > and couldn't find any menu that would let me do that. > Didn't that depend upon the linux in question supporting

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I'm not sure whether it does that any more. I have just tried to import an EPS file in LC 9.0.0 DP-5 on Linux and couldn't find any menu that would let me do that. Richmond. On 3/3/17 1:24 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 3/2/17 5:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: It's

ouch: the beginning of the end

2017-03-02 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
I have used LiveCode (then MetaCard) to write content in PDF templates, so I do not understand the requirement that file should have no changes. Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 3:24 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I don't know much about EPS or how it relates to PDF. But on Linux, LC > supports EPS objects. Mac is sorta/kinda Linux. I wonder if something could > be done about that. > At thepdf export

Re: "ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/2/17 5:13 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: It's 2017; asking to be able to display an eps and keep it as part of the pdf generated doesn't seem like it's asking much. I don't know much about EPS or how it relates to PDF. But on Linux, LC supports EPS objects. Mac is sorta/kinda

"ouch: the beginning of the end"

2017-03-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
I just got off the phone with the court clerk in Reno, and received the beginning of the end . . .I figured it would come from some state or anther in a year or two, but they are requiring me to use the *exact* pdf as propagated by the court. As livecode is not capable of rendering a pdf page or