[ANN] TinyDictionary updated to work also in LC 8.2.0 DP2 and LC 9 DP10

[Niggemann, Bernd via use-livecode]

Due to changes how LC organizes dictionary data in LC 8.2 DP2 and LC 9 DP 10 
tinyDictionary did not display LCB dictionary entries anymore.

TinyDictionary version 0.8.3 restores that functionality and is backwards 
compatible.
Thanks James Hale for the code for the acquisition of the dictionary array.

It has been uploaded to "Sample Stacks" = livecodeshare.

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary

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[ANN] TinyDictionary updated to work also in LC 8.2.0 DP2 and LC 9 DP10

[BNig via use-livecode]

Due to changes how LC organizes dictionary data in LC 8.2 DP2 and LC 9 DP 10
tinyDictionary did not display LCB dictionary entries anymore.

TinyDictionary version 0.8.3 restores that functionality and is backwards
compatible.
Thanks James Hale for the code for the acqusition of the dictionary array.

It has been uploaded to "Sample Stacks" = livecodeshare.

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: [ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

Brian and Bernd, thank you for this!! I use it all the time now and I love it.

Cheers,

Roger


> On Jul 18, 2017, at 3:59 PM, BNig via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also
> submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-in dictionary
> 
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5669
> 
> Synonyms now are part of the built-in dictionary as of LC9 DP8.
> TinyDictionary displays synomyms in LC version 8.1 and up.
> 
> TinyDict now is at version 0.8.2
> 
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
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[ANN] TinyDictionary updated to display Synonyms

[BNig via use-livecode]

Brian Milby contributed to tinyDictinary the extraction of synonyms. He also
submitted a pull request to add synonyms to the built-in dictionary

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5669

Synonyms now are part of the built-in dictionary as of LC9 DP8.
TinyDictionary displays synomyms in LC version 8.1 and up.

TinyDict now is at version 0.8.2

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

The reason I never added notes is because I've bee nwrong about something or 
misunderstood something so many times I feel reticent to make any comments 
about how something works. 

Bob S


> On May 4, 2017, at 12:46 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Exactly.  If folks aren't writing them now where everyone in all IDE 
> components can use them, what are the chances they'll starting writing them 
> anywhere else for a subset of the audience?
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[BNig via use-livecode]

pink wrote
> 
> BNig wrote
>> TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version
>> 8.1 and up.
>> 
>> New features are user added notes and import of notes. Some code
>> optimization and cleanup.
>> Should work on Mac, Windows and Linux.
>> See Help from Preferences Menu.
>> 
>> Probably best when used as plug-in. (put tinyDictionary stack into your
>> plugin folder and restart Livecode. Then select it from Development menu
>> -> Plugins)
>> 
>> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Bernd
> Would user added notes persist across different versions of LiveCode, or
> would the need to added again each time a new version of LiveCode comes
> out?

As Mike wrote the notes are stored in an arrayEncoded array in Application
Support -> LCTinyDict -> tinyDictNotes.array
They identify a dictionary by a combination of Keyword Type and Library. 

TinyDict uses the current version of LC Dictionary it is running in. That
means regardless of version or license the dictionary is up to date. (all
those differences give you slightly different dictionaries) If that version
of your dictionary has an entry that matches an entry in tinyDictNotes.array
then the note will be shown. No need to rewrite the note. You can take your
tinyDictNotes.array file, zip it and import it into your tinyDict running on
a different computer or send it off to someone else. tinyDictNotes.array
will be merged into your existing notes by appending the imported notes to
the existing notes.

Notes came into being because they were mentioned a couple of times as a
useful feature of a community dictionary. They are primarily intended as a
means to keep personal notes, workarounds, reminders, etc. Not more not
less.

Kind regards
Bernd





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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

The notes are part of TD, not LC.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:37 PM, pink via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> BNig wrote
> > TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version
> > 8.1 and up.
> >
> > New features are user added notes and import of notes. Some code
> > optimization and cleanup.
> > Should work on Mac, Windows and Linux.
> > See Help from Preferences Menu.
> >
> > Probably best when used as plug-in. (put tinyDictionary stack into your
> > plugin folder and restart Livecode. Then select it from Development menu
> > -> Plugins)
> >
> > http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Bernd
>
> Would user added notes persist across different versions of LiveCode, or
> would the need to added again each time a new version of LiveCode comes
> out?
>
>
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

exactly

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Mike Kerner wrote:
>
> > The cool thing about TD is that you don't necessarily have to write
> > anything.  For example, Mark's AR note from yesterday can be
> > installed into TD as-is, which is exactly what Bernd did, yesterday.
> > He copied and pasted the email into a text file and sent it to me. A
> > couple of clicks later, and Mark's email was attached to
> > acceleratedRendering.  As I found out when I was trying to get some
> > changes submitted for the dictionary, there is a lot more to getting
> > it formatted for a dictionary entry.  For a note, not so
> > much.  It's a note, a comment, etc.  You can use TD more like a wiki.
>
> Good point.  What we have with that post and many others like it are
> effectively Tech Notes, distinct from Dictionary Entries and Tutorials.
>
> It's nice that Bernd has the time and interest in maintaining such a
> collection, but as you noted his Dictionary is separate from the IDE, and
> as such those Tech Notes are lost to the majority of LC users (except for
> those using TD and the handful of us who've been obsessively bookmarking
> such things over the years).
>
> It seems that both TD users and everyone else might benefit from a
> knowledge base of Tech Notes if they were made part of the LC repo, and the
> LC docs system extended to include them along with the other forms of
> learning materials.
>
> With a central place for a Tech Note repository, Bernd's work would be
> simplified by merely adding one extension to his system and everything
> there comes along for the ride.
>
> But beyond saving Bernd the extra work, such content would be in a form
> that could benefit the entire LC audience, no matter which mix of plugins
> that may be using at any given time.
>
> A wiki might be a suitable alternative to a Mardwon-centric repo like
> Github.  MaxV has a wiki, and I've offered before (and my offer still
> stands) to migrate that content to one of my LiveCode domains like
> LiveCodeJournal.com using Wikimedia, the package Wikipedia uses, so we can
> have the flexibility of a proven wiki engine but without the ads that are
> an understandable by-product of a free hosting service.
>
>
> TL;DR:
>
> Less formal Tech Notes are a valuable part of our community's collective
> knowledge base, and it would be ideal to have a curated collection of them.
>
> Once we do, any tools that could benefit from including them could do so
> easily.
>
> The value of the information is proportionate to the size of the audience
> reading it.  The more easily informal Tech Notes can be available to
> everyone, the more the community as a whole can realize their value.
>
> IMO the format and location of the collection is less important than that
> it exists.
>
> A pile of text files in a server directory today would be more valuable
> than a perfectly-formatted collection that doesn't exist.
>
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[pink via use-livecode]

BNig wrote
> TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version
> 8.1 and up.
> 
> New features are user added notes and import of notes. Some code
> optimization and cleanup.
> Should work on Mac, Windows and Linux.
> See Help from Preferences Menu.
> 
> Probably best when used as plug-in. (put tinyDictionary stack into your
> plugin folder and restart Livecode. Then select it from Development menu
> -> Plugins)
> 
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd

Would user added notes persist across different versions of LiveCode, or
would the need to added again each time a new version of LiveCode comes out?



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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> The cool thing about TD is that you don't necessarily have to write
> anything.  For example, Mark's AR note from yesterday can be
> installed into TD as-is, which is exactly what Bernd did, yesterday.
> He copied and pasted the email into a text file and sent it to me. A
> couple of clicks later, and Mark's email was attached to
> acceleratedRendering.  As I found out when I was trying to get some
> changes submitted for the dictionary, there is a lot more to getting
> it formatted for a dictionary entry.  For a note, not so
> much.  It's a note, a comment, etc.  You can use TD more like a wiki.

Good point.  What we have with that post and many others like it are 
effectively Tech Notes, distinct from Dictionary Entries and Tutorials.


It's nice that Bernd has the time and interest in maintaining such a 
collection, but as you noted his Dictionary is separate from the IDE, 
and as such those Tech Notes are lost to the majority of LC users 
(except for those using TD and the handful of us who've been obsessively 
bookmarking such things over the years).


It seems that both TD users and everyone else might benefit from a 
knowledge base of Tech Notes if they were made part of the LC repo, and 
the LC docs system extended to include them along with the other forms 
of learning materials.


With a central place for a Tech Note repository, Bernd's work would be 
simplified by merely adding one extension to his system and everything 
there comes along for the ride.


But beyond saving Bernd the extra work, such content would be in a form 
that could benefit the entire LC audience, no matter which mix of 
plugins that may be using at any given time.


A wiki might be a suitable alternative to a Mardwon-centric repo like 
Github.  MaxV has a wiki, and I've offered before (and my offer still 
stands) to migrate that content to one of my LiveCode domains like 
LiveCodeJournal.com using Wikimedia, the package Wikipedia uses, so we 
can have the flexibility of a proven wiki engine but without the ads 
that are an understandable by-product of a free hosting service.



TL;DR:

Less formal Tech Notes are a valuable part of our community's collective 
knowledge base, and it would be ideal to have a curated collection of them.


Once we do, any tools that could benefit from including them could do so 
easily.


The value of the information is proportionate to the size of the 
audience reading it.  The more easily informal Tech Notes can be 
available to everyone, the more the community as a whole can realize 
their value.


IMO the format and location of the collection is less important than 
that it exists.


A pile of text files in a server directory today would be more valuable 
than a perfectly-formatted collection that doesn't exist.


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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

The cool thing about TD is that you don't necessarily have to write
anything.  For example, Mark's AR note from yesterday can be installed into
TD as-is, which is exactly what Bernd did, yesterday.  He copied and pasted
the email into a text file and sent it to me. A couple of clicks later, and
Mark's email was attached to acceleratedRendering.  As I found out when I
was trying to get some changes submitted for the dictionary, there is a lot
more to getting it formatted for a dictionary entry.  For a note, not so
much.  It's a note, a comment, etc.  You can use TD more like a wiki.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Mike Kerner wrote:
>
> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> >
> >> Mike Kerner wrote:
> >> > The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool.  Now if
> >> > we can get someone to compile and distribute notes when something
> >> > comes up, here, that would be really cool.
> >>
> >> If notes need to be centrally curated anyway, could we just add
> >> those to the relevant Dictionary entries in the source markdown in
> >> the LC Github repo?
> >
> > Sure, but as you can see, that isn't happening, and tinydict isn't
> > part of LC, it's separate, as Bernd has requested.
>
> Exactly.  If folks aren't writing them now where everyone in all IDE
> components can use them, what are the chances they'll starting writing them
> anywhere else for a subset of the audience?
>
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>> Mike Kerner wrote:
>> > The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool.  Now if
>> > we can get someone to compile and distribute notes when something
>> > comes up, here, that would be really cool.
>>
>> If notes need to be centrally curated anyway, could we just add
>> those to the relevant Dictionary entries in the source markdown in
>> the LC Github repo?
>
> Sure, but as you can see, that isn't happening, and tinydict isn't
> part of LC, it's separate, as Bernd has requested.

Exactly.  If folks aren't writing them now where everyone in all IDE 
components can use them, what are the chances they'll starting writing 
them anywhere else for a subset of the audience?


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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Sure, but as you can see, that isn't happening, and tinydict isn't part of
LC, it's separate, as Bernd has requested.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:07 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Mike Kerner wrote:
>
> > The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool.  Now if we
> > can get someone to compile and distribute notes when something comes
> > up, here, that would be really cool.
>
> If notes need to be centrally curated anyway, could we just add those to
> the relevant Dictionary entries in the source markdown in the LC Github
> repo?
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool.  Now if we
> can get someone to compile and distribute notes when something comes
> up, here, that would be really cool.

If notes need to be centrally curated anyway, could we just add those to 
the relevant Dictionary entries in the source markdown in the LC Github 
repo?


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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

The latest feature, importing notes, is pretty darn cool.  Now if we can
get someone to compile and distribute notes when something comes up, here,
that would be really cool.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 8:48 AM, BNig via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version
> 8.1
> and up.
>
> New features are user added notes and import of notes. Some code
> optimization and cleanup.
> Should work on Mac, Windows and Linux.
> See Help from Preferences Menu.
>
> Probably best when used as plug-in. (put tinyDictionary stack into your
> plugin folder and restart Livecode. Then select it from Development menu ->
> Plugins)
>
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
>
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[ANN] tinyDictionary 0_8_1_0

[BNig via use-livecode]

TinyDictionary is a small footprint dictionary for Livecode from version 8.1
and up.

New features are user added notes and import of notes. Some code
optimization and cleanup.
Should work on Mac, Windows and Linux.
See Help from Preferences Menu.

Probably best when used as plug-in. (put tinyDictionary stack into your
plugin folder and restart Livecode. Then select it from Development menu ->
Plugins)

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/TinyDictionary

Kind regards
Bernd



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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Oh, yes, and one more thing:  We need to bring back user additions and
owner addendums/notes.

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> Mike Kerner wrote:
>
> > I want this to be my official dictionary.
>
> With my free Devolution toolkit you can chose between LC's default tools
> or any plugin you want for essentials like that:
>
> http://fourthworld.com/products/devolution/
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Mike Kerner wrote:

> I want this to be my official dictionary.

With my free Devolution toolkit you can chose between LC's default tools 
or any plugin you want for essentials like that:


http://fourthworld.com/products/devolution/

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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[BNig via use-livecode]

Sorry Bob,

I fell foul of Nabble, it is unfortunately broken since the bouncing issue
was resolved.

Since I am on digest for the use-list I use Nabble to post and see current
activity. 

Too bad it is broken since the only other repository that lets you post I
know is gmane that is rebuilding and has not added Livecode yet.

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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

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On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:33 PM, BNig via use-livecode 
> wrote:

Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote
Then please also make sure to submit this to Edinburgh.  I want this to be
my official dictionary.

Thanks Bob,

I think the LiveCode people did a pretty good job reorganizing the
dictionary. The new dictionary, once getting used to it, offers the
different dictionaries in a structured way.

It takes just a lot of screen estate if you don't use a 28 inch monitor.

The scope of tinyDictionary is different: a bare bone dictionary for
developers who know what they are looking for.

So I will not submit this to Edinburgh.

I wrote tinyDictionary also because we had quite some suggestions for
community projects that did not materialize. I wanted to give it a try and
see how far I would get. There was helpful input from the community, not all
of it made it into tinyDict.

The Livecode Dictionary has other problems: more than 3000 files that need
some attention/correction/reformatting. Luckily not all of them but there
are enough. If you find some funny stuff in tinyDictionary please check
against the LiveCode dictionary whether it also looks funny there. Then you
have a good chance to look at an entry that needs care.

Devin Asay is doing a tremendous job at correcting the dictionary.
This could really be something where other native speakers of the community
could help. It is tedious, you have to learn the format and you have to get
familiar with GitHub. But even GitHub is doable :)

Bernd, thanks for your work on this, and for your kind words. If anyone finds 
anything in the Dictionary that doesn’t look right, or read right, or just 
seems inaccurate, please do submit a bug report. They are usually simple and 
quick to fix. I’d also welcome anyone who wants to try their hand at joining 
the open source effort by submitting dictionary fixes. I have created some 
step-by-step guides to help you and would be happy to get you started.

Plus if you get a dictionary change accepted you get to see your name in This 
Week in LiveCode! :)

Devin Asay
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Office of Digital Humanities
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Just one problem. I didn't write that. 

Bob S


> On Mar 23, 2017, at 13:33 , BNig via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote
>> Then please also make sure to submit this to Edinburgh.  I want this to be
>> my official dictionary.
> 
> Thanks Bob,


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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

The other issues with the existing official dictionary involve the
bootstrap framework, and those are not easy to address without ripping out
bootstrap.  While we are on the topic of a large monitor, that does not fix
the issues.  Indeed, on a larger monitor, the dictionary will get worse,
due to bootstrap's 7-column setup.  The bezels get to be gigantic except
within very narrow ranges.  You can do what you want, Bernd, but this is a
far better dictionary than what is packaged with LC, and certainly better
than I could have built if I had continued on what started as my quest to
submit a pull request to replace the existing dictionary, so I hope you
change your mind.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:33 PM, BNig via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote
> > Then please also make sure to submit this to Edinburgh.  I want this to
> be
> > my official dictionary.
>
> Thanks Bob,
>
> I think the LiveCode people did a pretty good job reorganizing the
> dictionary. The new dictionary, once getting used to it, offers the
> different dictionaries in a structured way.
>
> It takes just a lot of screen estate if you don't use a 28 inch monitor.
>
> The scope of tinyDictionary is different: a bare bone dictionary for
> developers who know what they are looking for.
>
> So I will not submit this to Edinburgh.
>
> I wrote tinyDictionary also because we had quite some suggestions for
> community projects that did not materialize. I wanted to give it a try and
> see how far I would get. There was helpful input from the community, not
> all
> of it made it into tinyDict.
>
> The Livecode Dictionary has other problems: more than 3000 files that need
> some attention/correction/reformatting. Luckily not all of them but there
> are enough. If you find some funny stuff in tinyDictionary please check
> against the LiveCode dictionary whether it also looks funny there. Then you
> have a good chance to look at an entry that needs care.
>
> Devin Asay is doing a tremendous job at correcting the dictionary.
> This could really be something where other native speakers of the community
> could help. It is tedious, you have to learn the format and you have to get
> familiar with GitHub. But even GitHub is doable :)
>
>
> >> I want this to be my official dictionary.
>
> That is very easy, just rename the stack to myTinyOfficialDictionary :)
>
>
> I will upload new versions to Livecodeshare as needed. This should get you
> there
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/
>
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
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[BNig via use-livecode]

Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote
> Then please also make sure to submit this to Edinburgh.  I want this to be
> my official dictionary.

Thanks Bob,

I think the LiveCode people did a pretty good job reorganizing the
dictionary. The new dictionary, once getting used to it, offers the
different dictionaries in a structured way.

It takes just a lot of screen estate if you don't use a 28 inch monitor.

The scope of tinyDictionary is different: a bare bone dictionary for
developers who know what they are looking for.

So I will not submit this to Edinburgh.

I wrote tinyDictionary also because we had quite some suggestions for
community projects that did not materialize. I wanted to give it a try and
see how far I would get. There was helpful input from the community, not all
of it made it into tinyDict.

The Livecode Dictionary has other problems: more than 3000 files that need
some attention/correction/reformatting. Luckily not all of them but there
are enough. If you find some funny stuff in tinyDictionary please check
against the LiveCode dictionary whether it also looks funny there. Then you
have a good chance to look at an entry that needs care.

Devin Asay is doing a tremendous job at correcting the dictionary.
This could really be something where other native speakers of the community
could help. It is tedious, you have to learn the format and you have to get
familiar with GitHub. But even GitHub is doable :)


>> I want this to be my official dictionary.

That is very easy, just rename the stack to myTinyOfficialDictionary :)


I will upload new versions to Livecodeshare as needed. This should get you
there
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/


Kind regards
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Mike Kerner via use-livecode]

Then please also make sure to submit this to Edinburgh.  I want this to be
my official dictionary.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:41 PM, BNig via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Skip Kimpel via use-livecode wrote
> > On 03/22/2017 12:46 PM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> tinyDictionary tries on preopenCard -> loadPreferences to find via
> >>  put specialFolderPath("support") into tFolderSupport
> >> an "application support" folder and there a "LcTinyDict" folder where it
> >> tries to create a txt file "tinyPrefs.txt"
> >>
> >> This is in the card script.
> >>
> >> If it can not create the folder then the alert appears. I don't know
> >> anything about Linux and where that folder might be. Or may be it is a
> >> permission thing?
> >
> > Ah.
> > The good folks at LC haven't found it neccesary to allow more than a
> > handful of folderIdentifiers for linux. And in spite of what the
> > documentation says, the result is *not* set to "folder not found" when a
> > non-supported or nonexistent folderIdentifier is specified - it's just
> > empty, which is somewhat less useful.
> >
> > I default saving preferences files to the directory where the saving
> > stack lives, and normally that's my user Plugins folder, and I use the
> > undocumented (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16189)
> > revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() function to get those.
> >
> > --
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> >
>
> > ahsoftware@
>
>
> Thanks Mark,
> I will try to implement revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() function for Linux
> in the next version
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

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Skip Kimpel via use-livecode wrote
> On 03/22/2017 12:46 PM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> tinyDictionary tries on preopenCard -> loadPreferences to find via
>>  put specialFolderPath("support") into tFolderSupport
>> an "application support" folder and there a "LcTinyDict" folder where it
>> tries to create a txt file "tinyPrefs.txt"
>>
>> This is in the card script.
>>
>> If it can not create the folder then the alert appears. I don't know
>> anything about Linux and where that folder might be. Or may be it is a
>> permission thing?
> 
> Ah.
> The good folks at LC haven't found it neccesary to allow more than a 
> handful of folderIdentifiers for linux. And in spite of what the 
> documentation says, the result is *not* set to "folder not found" when a 
> non-supported or nonexistent folderIdentifier is specified - it's just 
> empty, which is somewhat less useful.
> 
> I default saving preferences files to the directory where the saving 
> stack lives, and normally that's my user Plugins folder, and I use the 
> undocumented (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16189) 
> revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() function to get those.
> 
> -- 
>   Mark Wieder
>   

> ahsoftware@


Thanks Mark,
I will try to implement revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() function for Linux
in the next version

Kind regards
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 03/22/2017 12:46 PM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:


Hi Mark,

tinyDictionary tries on preopenCard -> loadPreferences to find via
 put specialFolderPath("support") into tFolderSupport
an "application support" folder and there a "LcTinyDict" folder where it
tries to create a txt file "tinyPrefs.txt"

This is in the card script.

If it can not create the folder then the alert appears. I don't know
anything about Linux and where that folder might be. Or may be it is a
permission thing?


Ah.
The good folks at LC haven't found it neccesary to allow more than a 
handful of folderIdentifiers for linux. And in spite of what the 
documentation says, the result is *not* set to "folder not found" when a 
non-supported or nonexistent folderIdentifier is specified - it's just 
empty, which is somewhat less useful.


I default saving preferences files to the directory where the saving 
stack lives, and normally that's my user Plugins folder, and I use the 
undocumented (http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16189) 
revEnvironmentUserPluginsPath() function to get those.


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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

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> On 03/22/2017 07:37 AM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:
>> I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
>> Livecodeshare
> 
> Very nice. Thanks. Works well for me on linux.
> What means "unable to create preferences folder"?
> 
> -- 
>   Mark Wieder

Hi Mark,

tinyDictionary tries on preopenCard -> loadPreferences to find via 
 put specialFolderPath("support") into tFolderSupport
an "application support" folder and there a "LcTinyDict" folder where it
tries to create a txt file "tinyPrefs.txt"

This is in the card script.

If it can not create the folder then the alert appears. I don't know
anything about Linux and where that folder might be. Or may be it is a
permission thing?

TinyDict saves on "closeCard" to the preference file the current state to be
able to restore the state on next start. It does not save itself, hence the
prefs file.

Kind regards
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[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 03/22/2017 07:37 AM, BNig via use-livecode wrote:

I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
Livecodeshare


Very nice. Thanks. Works well for me on linux.
What means "unable to create preferences folder"?

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[Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode]

That's going to go a long way to solving the Linux problem.

Thanks, Bernd.

On 3/22/17 4:37 pm, BNig via use-livecode wrote:

I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
Livecodeshare

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7

this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.

it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint dictionary.

James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.

Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646

or mail me.

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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Mainly I was thinking it would be cool to have a standalone that doesn't
need the ide to be open. Choose the folder with the version you want to
look at, perhaps even load a second standalone and point to a different
folder for a compare and contrast. (Not sure if it would work, but I
noticed in the code that a message is sent to rev stack to do the hard
work.. Could a message like this be sent to a stack that hasn't been opened
yet in the chosen folder, without all the other ide stuff running?  Think
I'll poke around and try.  )

No worry about this though, because as you say.. I can just open whatever
versions I wish and access the plugin from them.


On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:44 AM, BNig via use-livecode <
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> Hi Mike,
>
>
> Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote
> > This is awesome!  Quick question (feature request) would it be difficult
> > to
> > add a dictionary selector?  So if I have 13 versions of lc installed, I
> > could pick which dict to look at? (and make it work as a standalone at
> the
> > same time?)
>
> If you use tinyDictionary as a plugin then it gathers the current
> dictionary
> of the LC version you use. But it only works for Livecode 8.1 and up
> because
> it leverages the good work of the Livecode people in
> "revIDEDocumentationLibrary". It pulls the whole array and dissects it. Of
> course you can have more than one LC version open and access tinyDict via
> the plugins menu in each of these. It would always be the current
> dictionary
> of that version.
>
> If you have a special use case for standalones please email me so I
> understand better what you would like to do.
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
>
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Hi Mike,


Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote
> This is awesome!  Quick question (feature request) would it be difficult
> to
> add a dictionary selector?  So if I have 13 versions of lc installed, I
> could pick which dict to look at? (and make it work as a standalone at the
> same time?)

If you use tinyDictionary as a plugin then it gathers the current dictionary
of the LC version you use. But it only works for Livecode 8.1 and up because
it leverages the good work of the Livecode people in
"revIDEDocumentationLibrary". It pulls the whole array and dissects it. Of
course you can have more than one LC version open and access tinyDict via
the plugins menu in each of these. It would always be the current dictionary
of that version.

If you have a special use case for standalones please email me so I
understand better what you would like to do.

Kind regards
Bernd

 



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[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

This is awesome!  Quick question (feature request) would it be difficult to
add a dictionary selector?  So if I have 13 versions of lc installed, I
could pick which dict to look at? (and make it work as a standalone at the
same time?)

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Thierry Douez via use-livecode <
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> Hallo Bernd,
>
>
> Great job, as usual !
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Thierry
>
>
> 2017-03-22 15:37 GMT+01:00 BNig via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
>
> > I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
> > Livecodeshare
> >
> > http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7
> >
> > this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.
> >
> > it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint
> dictionary.
> >
> > James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.
> >
> > Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum
> >
> > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646
> >
> > or mail me.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Bernd
> >
> >
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[Thierry Douez via use-livecode]

Hallo Bernd,


Great job, as usual !

Kind regards,

Thierry


2017-03-22 15:37 GMT+01:00 BNig via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:

> I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
> Livecodeshare
>
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7
>
> this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.
>
> it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint dictionary.
>
> James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.
>
> Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646
>
> or mail me.
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Roger Eller via use-livecode]

Outstanding!  Much better than the built-in webpage-like dictionary.  Great
job!



On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:37 AM, BNig via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
> Livecodeshare
>
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7
>
> this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.
>
> it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint dictionary.
>
> James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.
>
> Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum
>
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646
>
> or mail me.
>
> Kind regards
> Bernd
>
>
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Skip Kimpel via use-livecode]

Great job!  Downloaded and already using it.

SKIP

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Roger Guay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I love it! Thanks!!
>
> Roger
>
> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:37 AM, BNig via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
> > Livecodeshare
> >
> > http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7
> >
> > this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.
> >
> > it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint
> dictionary.
> >
> > James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.
> >
> > Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum
> >
> > http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646
> >
> > or mail me.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Bernd
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ANN] tinyDictionary

[Roger Guay via use-livecode]

I love it! Thanks!!

Roger

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:37 AM, BNig via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
> Livecodeshare
> 
> http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7
> 
> this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.
> 
> it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint dictionary.
> 
> James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.
> 
> Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum
> 
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646
> 
> or mail me.
> 
> Kind regards
> Bernd
> 
> 
> 
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[ANN] tinyDictionary

[BNig via use-livecode]

I uploaded a compact version of the dictionaries for LC 8.1 and up to
Livecodeshare

http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/825/tinyDictionary_0_7_7_7

this is also accessible via "Sample Stacks" from inside LC.

it is the result of Mike Kerners push to have a small footprint dictionary.

James Hale contributed to tinyDict, thanks James.

Comments bug reports either on the use-list or in the forum

http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=67=28731=152646#p152646

or mail me.

Kind regards
Bernd



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