AW: AW: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone?
Thanks for claryfying! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Peter TB Brett Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2016 16:04 An: How to use LiveCodeBetreff: Re: AW: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone? On 27/10/2016 14:57, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi Peter, > > as far as I had understood an 1920x1080 display not yet a Hi-DPI > display and wouldn't trigger the Hi-DPI function, or am I wrong that > this option already would take action with such an display? > It's determined based on the system display scaling setting. It will kick in when your "program [is] blown up to 150% by the system rendering", as you mentioned in a previous e-mail. This is how we get the splash screen image and menu bar icons to look good in LiveCode 9 DP 1 on my HiDPI Windows 10 laptop, for example. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs: https://github.com/peter-b/lcb-mode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone?
On 27/10/2016 14:57, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hi Peter, as far as I had understood an 1920x1080 display not yet a Hi-DPI display and wouldn't trigger the Hi-DPI function, or am I wrong that this option already would take action with such an display? It's determined based on the system display scaling setting. It will kick in when your "program [is] blown up to 150% by the system rendering", as you mentioned in a previous e-mail. This is how we get the splash screen image and menu bar icons to look good in LiveCode 9 DP 1 on my HiDPI Windows 10 laptop, for example. Peter -- Dr Peter BrettLiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs: https://github.com/peter-b/lcb-mode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone?
Hi Peter, as far as I had understood an 1920x1080 display not yet a Hi-DPI display and wouldn't trigger the Hi-DPI function, or am I wrong that this option already would take action with such an display? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Peter TB Brett Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2016 15:54 An: How to use LiveCodeBetreff: Re: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone? On 27/10/2016 14:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Since this isn't a thing of Hi-DPI, I am not sure if and what I could > do, to make this better. Is LC already vector image ready for all > cases (plain image on screen, image as button icon, image in text?) > Beside this is pretty much work for me, to re-design all images as > vector images, I am not sure, if this is the only solution, or if I > could get back the smooth and little blurred appearance of my bitmap images, like in LC 6 with any trick? 1) Make your images linked to an external image file 2) Add two files: myimagename.png and myimagen...@extra-high.png 3) LiveCode will automatically use the latter on HiDPI displays Peter -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs: https://github.com/peter-b/lcb-mode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone?
On 27/10/2016 14:43, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Since this isn't a thing of Hi-DPI, I am not sure if and what I could do, to make this better. Is LC already vector image ready for all cases (plain image on screen, image as button icon, image in text?) Beside this is pretty much work for me, to re-design all images as vector images, I am not sure, if this is the only solution, or if I could get back the smooth and little blurred appearance of my bitmap images, like in LC 6 with any trick? 1) Make your images linked to an external image file 2) Add two files: myimagename.png and myimagen...@extra-high.png 3) LiveCode will automatically use the latter on HiDPI displays Peter -- Dr Peter BrettLiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs: https://github.com/peter-b/lcb-mode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone?
I have a customer, who complained that everything in my program, including the text looks so blurred. I made some tests with an Dell Inspiron notebook, which hasn't a Hi-DPI display, but a very crispy 1920x1080 display and compared a main window of one of my LC programs, once compiled with LC 6.7 and once with LC 8.1 and the Hi-DPI option on. Since this isn't a Hi-DPI display, probably the option has no influence and both programs look pretty similar and sharp. But since 1920 x 1080 is pretty small on a 13'' display, most users of such kind computers set the text size system setting to 150% (as also recommended by Dell). Running this crispy display at 150% text size, "all other programs still look fine and crispy", but the comparison of my both program versions show pretty different results. My LC 6.7 program blown up to 150% by the system rendering looks completely blurred, every text and all bitmap images look smooth, but blurred. - This is obviously that what my customer was seeing. Due to the new rendering machine of LC 8.1 (or was it already 7?), all text in my LC program looks sharp and fine, as in the other programs. BUT, my bitmap images (some with text inside) look terrible. In opposite to LC 6 all edges in the bitmap images look sharp, but pixeled and stepped and actually worse as in LC 6. Since this isn't a thing of Hi-DPI, I am not sure if and what I could do, to make this better. Is LC already vector image ready for all cases (plain image on screen, image as button icon, image in text?) Beside this is pretty much work for me, to re-design all images as vector images, I am not sure, if this is the only solution, or if I could get back the smooth and little blurred appearance of my bitmap images, like in LC 6 with any trick? How do you handle this? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Montag, 24. Oktober 2016 11:42 An: LiveCode User Liste sendenBetreff: What do I have to prepare if enabling Hi-DPI scaling for Win standalone? Hello, Up to now I haven't enabled the Hi-DPI scaling for Windows standalones and since I don't have a hi-dpi monitor I can't test the difference of my standalones. Do I have to prepare anything different, if I enable the hi-DPI scaling? Is it necessary to exchange all images by images with higher resolution? (180dpi instead of 96 dpi, though dpi actually is a thing for print work?) I assume if I would show my existing program (non-hi-dpi) on a high DPI monitor, all images will look blurred. But will they look sharper, if I keep all images and just enable hi-DPI scaling without any new images? And is it recommended to enable it by default? (If yes, why do we have this option at all and it is not fixed standard?) Any insights and experiences welcome Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode