Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit—USB broken
No, I haven't tried QUEMU. However, I downloaded a new xCode and, when I ran it the first time, my little board started working and showed up as a virtual serial port and as a disk drive. The good news is that it works. Perhaps xCode swapped out something, maybe drivers. The bad news is that I have no idea whether something that runs on my machine will run on another without xCode installed. Dar Mad Scientist Sad Scientist > On Oct 16, 2019, at 2:31 PM, hh via use-livecode > wrote: > > @Dar. > Did you already try to use QUEMU? > https://www.qemu.org > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit—USB broken
@Dar. Did you already try to use QUEMU? https://www.qemu.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit—USB broken
I'm not sure how this addresses my concern. Uh, rant. Lament. If this is an OS problem, then a Hackintosh system would not solve it. If this is a driver problem, then perhaps Clover will work, but maybe not. (When I build a machine, I would use Windows or Linux, so—for me—Hackintosh is not a solution.) I like working with USB gadgets on the Mac, but if "Works with Catalina" has to become a de facto standard for USB, then Apple is going to lose a market. A virtual Windows machine is of no help here. Oh, and I said AdaFruit has a fix for Feather boards. It doesn't work for me. This also means my advice to use virtual machines for Windows is flawed. Maybe this is Apple's way of saying I should get a new Mac, but I hear even some new Macs have the problem. > On Oct 14, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode > wrote: > > That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. > They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. > With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware > components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which > were not supported by Apple anymore. > > On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards > such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not > related to 32-bit. > >Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually > this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how > USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. > AdaFruit has a fix. > >There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's > examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware. > >I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the > specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. > >Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for > gadget folks like me. > >Dar Scott >Mad Scientist > > > > >___ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
Morganaut has the best tutorials out there for a modern MacOS build. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg5TS2EmMutPd7Y1zqfQ3iA ~Roger From: use-livecode on behalf of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:45 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh with an eye to play video games but could never get the graphics card to work. That was a long time ago. If you have any links for making this happen I would be very interested. Thanks. Bob S > On Oct 14, 2019, at 13:10 , Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode > wrote: > > That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. > They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. > With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware > components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which > were not supported by Apple anymore. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.runrev.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fuse-livecodedata=02%7C01%7Croger.e.eller%40sealedair.com%7C661d2fed28a145cc431008d7517e724b%7C2691a2514c384643af0b0c0982f197bd%7C0%7C0%7C637067475833169150sdata=E9p3IYKxS67%2BSVjyAv%2B5TDkJ6mcRnkpjVE5s08aFzoo%3Dreserved=0 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
Tonymacx86.com Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 15 oktober 2019 16:45:27 CEST: >I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh with an eye to >play video games but could never get the graphics card to work. That >was a long time ago. If you have any links for making this happen I >would be very interested. Thanks. > >Bob S > > >> On Oct 14, 2019, at 13:10 , Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode > wrote: >> >> That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh >systems. They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy >to upgrade. >> With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use >hardware components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound >cards etc.) which were not supported by Apple anymore. > > >___ >use-livecode mailing list >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >subscription preferences: >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Verstuurd vanaf mijn Android apparaat met K-9 Mail. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
I need to look into this again. I made one Hackintosh with an eye to play video games but could never get the graphics card to work. That was a long time ago. If you have any links for making this happen I would be very interested. Thanks. Bob S > On Oct 14, 2019, at 13:10 , Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode > wrote: > > That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. > They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. > With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware > components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which > were not supported by Apple anymore. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
Exactly, patching does the magic __ On 14/10/2019, 22:49, "use-livecode on behalf of JJS via use-livecode" wrote: clover is the bootloader. You still need the kexts (but you know, else you would not use it) Op 14-10-2019 om 22:10 schreef Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode: > That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. > With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which were not supported by Apple anymore. > > On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode" wrote: > > Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related to 32-bit. > > Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. AdaFruit has a fix. > > There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware. > > I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. > > Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for gadget folks like me. > > Dar Scott > Mad Scientist > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
clover is the bootloader. You still need the kexts (but you know, else you would not use it) Op 14-10-2019 om 22:10 schreef Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode: That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which were not supported by Apple anymore. On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode" wrote: Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related to 32-bit. Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. AdaFruit has a fix. There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware. I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for gadget folks like me. Dar Scott Mad Scientist ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
That is why I rely for the last 10 years on myself built Hackintosh systems. They run faster for less money and they are modular and easy to upgrade. With the introduction of Clover it has never been a problem to use hardware components (especially graphic cards, wifi/bt cards, sound cards etc.) which were not supported by Apple anymore. On 14/10/2019, 21:58, "use-livecode on behalf of Dar Scott Consulting via use-livecode" wrote: Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related to 32-bit. Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. AdaFruit has a fix. There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware. I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for gadget folks like me. Dar Scott Mad Scientist ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Catalina and stuff other than 32bit
Catalina does not recognize the bootloader for atmega32u4 Arduino boards such as Leonardo. The IDE 1.8.10 avr toolchain works (64-bit); this is not related to 32-bit. Catalina does not recognize the AdaFruit Feather ...BOOT drives. Actually this started with macOS 10.14.4. According to Dan Halbert, "Apple changed how USB devices are recognized on certain Macs", creating a timing problem. AdaFruit has a fix. There are some indications that some USB devices made with Jan Atkinson's examples are having problems on Catalina on some hardware. I don't know if Apple is stepping outside USB specs or is pushing the specs. Or whether the small board community has been spec-lax. Not directly LiveCode related, but more reason to hesitate, especially for gadget folks like me. Dar Scott Mad Scientist ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
