Re: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

2020-04-23 Thread Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode

On 17/04/2020 20:58, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

From the release notes: 4.x support is dropped. That represents 5% of all
active installs but may be a higher percentage of devices.


It very much depends where you're looking (or more to the point, where you're 
looking to distribute). It obviously varies widely by region.


E.g. Worldwide, according to 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271774/share-of-android-platforms-on-mobile-devices-with-android-os/ 
Android 4.4 is 6.9% (of all Android, not of all mobile), and earlier versions 
together add up to 3.8%. But US only 
(https://www.statista.com/statistics/865837/mobile-android-version-share-in-the-us/), 
4.4 is just 0.68% of all Android.


E.g. using Device Atlas data from Q2 2019 
https://deviceatlas.com/blog/mobile-os-versions-by-country gives Android 4.4 
share (nothing below 4.4 is registered) as:

Egypt   7.80%
Indonesia   5.59%
South Korea 4.32%
Romania 4.04%
Argentina   3.27%
South Africa2.47%
Nigeria 2.42%
India   1.53%

These numbers are percentage of all mobile (i.e. including iOS). These 
countries are the only ones for which Android 4 registers. For the UK, the 
oldest recorded version is Android 5.1 on 1.5%; for US it's Android 6 on 2.61%.


Ralph, can you give more information about that "5% of all active installs" 
figure?


TIA,

Ben

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RE: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

2020-04-18 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
BR,

If I read the release notes correctly Android versions

4.4 (KitKat)

4.1-4.3 (Jelly Bean)

4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)

Are no longer supported.

Supported Android minimum version is now 5.0-5.1 (Lollipop)

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 11:04 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Re: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

What is 

"4.x" ?

 Minimum Android Version?

I did as you suggested last year, two builds

e.g
version 22 for arm v7 and arm64
version 23 for x86 and x86_64

both came in (using SDK 21) about 95MB

the last versions, (20,21) done with SDK 18 were about 70MB

the analysis did not complain about the size  of the download, only that

"Doesn't support framework version 
21 and onwards"

BR





On 4/17/20, 9:55 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

From the release notes: 4.x support is dropped. That represents 5% of all 
active installs but may be a higher percentage of devices. What architectures 
are you building for? Putting all 4 into one apk can exceed the size limits for 
some devices.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Re: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

2020-04-17 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
What is 

"4.x" ?

 Minimum Android Version?

I did as you suggested last year, two builds

e.g
version 22 for arm v7 and arm64
version 23 for x86 and x86_64

both came in (using SDK 21) about 95MB

the last versions, (20,21) done with SDK 18 were about 70MB

the analysis did not complain about the size  of the download, only that

"Doesn't support framework version 
21 and onwards"

BR





On 4/17/20, 9:55 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

From the release notes: 4.x support is dropped. That represents 5% of all 
active installs but may be a higher percentage of devices. What architectures 
are you building for? Putting all 4 into one apk can exceed the size limits for 
some devices.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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RE: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

2020-04-17 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
From the release notes: 4.x support is dropped. That represents 5% of all 
active installs but may be a higher percentage of devices. What architectures 
are you building for? Putting all 4 into one apk can exceed the size limits for 
some devices.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:53 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Android Release Requires 21 but 911 Devices Get Dropped?

I wonder if I did something wrong. Just releasing a new version of SivaSiva to 
the stores...

Using 9.6.0 dp 4  -- which contained an important bug fix for the javascript 
handlers in the browser widget.

I want prompted that I need to upgrade for SDK18 to SDK21.

With no  apparent option to do otherwise.

Now at my Google Release console it is saying that 911 devices will be 
unsupported

"Doesn't support framework version 
21 and onwards"

It includes a fairly high percentage of devices: 

9.5% of  phones and
13.9% of tablets

Perhaps that just what it takes to keep going forward. 
But maybe I did something wrong?

Brahmanathaswami





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