Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-08 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
+1 On Mar 8, 2017 7:42 PM, "Andre Garzia via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Besides, this is not > > debugging, this is remote debugging, and if anything screams

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-08 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Besides, this is not > debugging, this is remote debugging, and if anything screams "premium", > it's a feature like this. Anyone who has been building for mobile since we > could do that with

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson wrote: > One of the points that might be brought up at this point is that > LiveCode in presented as a complete programming language/packet > in itself; there is no indication given that users of LiveCode > are expected to know other, lower-level languages too. > > I suspect

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
One of the points that might be brought up at this point is that LiveCode in presented as a complete programming language/packet in itself; there is no indication given that users of LiveCode are expected to know other, lower-level languages too. I suspect that a very high proportion of people

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > The fact that these decisions are being taken, where the HQ appears > to be focusing more and more on business licensees feels like I am > being forced into such license. At this moment, I am starting to > wonder if there is any reason to be indy at all. ...or Community.

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
You can't build ios with community, so that's moot. Besides, this is not debugging, this is remote debugging, and if anything screams "premium", it's a feature like this. Anyone who has been building for mobile since we could do that with LC has been working with their own personal debugging

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-03-06 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:41 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > - Implementation of a remote debugger (Business only): > Run a standalone for the local platform from the IDE and debug it whilst it > runs locally > Run a standalone for iOS or Android

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
oh baby i just read the blog on the profiler. I am going to have fun with this, too. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > panagiotis merakos wrote: > > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19248 > > Unfortunate to

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19248 Unfortunate to see complication after complication pile up from the IDE's insistence that stacks with the same name should not be in memory at the same time. As we've discussed earlier, the engine does not appear

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Trevor, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are da bomb! :-) Bob S > On Feb 24, 2017, at 09:18 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:00 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:00 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > If you want, you can apply those changes locally: > > https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5180/files > > and see if the problem is fixed. > I have a stack that will install the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
If you want, you can apply those changes locally: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5180/files and see if the problem is fixed. 1. Type in the msg box "edit the script of stack revsaveasstandalone" 2. Make those changes 3. Make sure you click on the "Apply" button 4. Try to create a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Bob you are probably affected by this bug: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19248 This will be fixed in 8.1.4 RC-1 (thanks to Trevor who identified the cause and submitted a pull request) Best, Panos -- On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That would be it, although I do not use any behaviors, except for data grids. Bob S > On Feb 24, 2017, at 08:13 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob you are probably affected by this bug: > > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19248

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That is interesting because I am still struggling with a bug http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19322 where compiling to more than one OS from a splash stack and with stack files seems to "corrupt" (I use the term loosely) the mainstack where the libraries have been added to the list

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I like the way these tracks are going. This is a very sensible and logical way to progress. The cool new dangerous toys go into the newest version, and the sensible stuff goes into both. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
Richmond, In general that is the case, yes. When for example 8.1.3 GM has been released, we merge the branches all the way up so that the develop branch (from which DPs are released) contains everything from that branch. In some cases there may be things that are in earlier releases but not in a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-24 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Apart from all the other changes, Its great to see Android getting some updates and attention. A big well done to the team! - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode TinyIDE Script

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I wish I could understand the way different "levels" come out concurrently. Are we to assume that all the new things in 8.1.3 are also bound into 9.0.0 DP-5? Richmond. On 2/23/17 10:41 pm, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > @Richard who wrote: > > "for deployment -- most recent stable…" > "for dev -- most recent build, know current state of engine as > pertains to your work." > > How logical! thanks… assuming there is no change in file format and > stacks are backward

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
@ Bob (who wrote) " Do you suggest that all development and improvement for version 8 and that we all wait for certain bugs to be addressed in the next major release? That would be unfortunate. Already since the earlier versions of 8, there have been marked improvements and bug fixes, such

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Probably a typo, but shouldn't the backslash be INSIDE the quotes in the example for Specifying local host and port when opening a socket? Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 24 Feb 2017, at 9:42 am, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Another question: Does the mobile have to be tethered to the desktop? If > I build a standalone, how are we going to communicate? They communicate via sockets so no it doesn’t need to be

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
LC Team, Congratulations and many thanks for this feature-packed release. Brilliant! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > Why even continue in 8.* ? > > What issues are there with 9.* that would make it advisable not to > try it for production? For deployment it's usually best to use the most recent Stable build. But for development it's usually best to use the most recent

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm drooling. I once told Kevin that about half of the lines of code in my mobile apps wind up being debugging code (granted the end up being commented out, eventually, but I digress). The biggest issue on mobile has always been debugging. I even have a debugging library that I have added to

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Another question: Does the mobile have to be tethered to the desktop? If I build a standalone, how are we going to communicate? Did you guys also see that we will have a regular message box context with the app? That's just one less thing I have to include with my stack (and then use the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
First of all this is a Developer Preview. Note the, "This is not a stable release" disclaimer. Consider also that some may be unwilling to move to version 9 until such a time as they feel confident that most of the issues have been shaken out of it. I am one of these. Do you suggest that all

Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-5

2017-02-23 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
I'm behind here in the overview: Why even continue in 8.* ? What issues are there with 9.* that would make it advisable not to try it for production? BR On 2/23/17, 10:41 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode"