Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: As one who teaches newbies LiveCode, I am a proponent of property labels that are both succinct and descriptive, while not straying too far from the actual

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Great discussion! > On Jun 14, 2017, at 1:20 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a >> bad idea. Or perhaps was

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On 2017-06-14 02:18, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: I think this is one of those cases where the default behaviour was a bad idea. Or perhaps was implemented before groups were used for much other than backgrounds. Other objects we need to set to the formatted width/height so why are

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

> On 14 Jun 2017, at 3:21 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder why we have both lockUpdates and boundingRect. They seem very > similar. Lock updates is intended to avoid recalculation of group properties when child object properties are

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

I wonder why we have both lockUpdates and boundingRect. They seem very similar. On 6/13/17 7:54 PM, Scott Rossi via use-livecode wrote: Keep in mind, there’s also the lockUpdates property of groups, which while differing mechanically “under the hood”, essentially causes the same perceived

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Keep in mind, there’s also the lockUpdates property of groups, which while differing mechanically “under the hood”, essentially causes the same perceived result — while enabled, a group’s rect is not changed when its child objects are resized/repositioned. I don’t know how all these are

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

> On 14 Jun 2017, at 8:19 am, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true > (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you > can then change the rect of the

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On 06/13/2017 03:19 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: ClipsToRect is the property name. So what “plain language” label do you think would be best for the PI? I always have my preference set to display the LC property rather than the 'description', so I don't really care, but... how

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

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Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true > (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you > can then change the rect of the

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Yes, in essence. If you have a group and set the clipsToRect property to true (there’s no way to set it in the PI yet—that’s what I’m going to add), you can then change the rect of the group, and the group will *not* automatically reset its rect to the size of the child controls + margin. It is

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

(The ? was meant to soften my suggestion, not to indicate that I'm not following - that's that's always a possibility) Phil On 6/13/17 3:11 PM, Phil Davis wrote: So it's about manually updating the rect vs. having it in an auto-update mode? Phil Davis On 6/13/17 3:01 PM, Devin Asay via

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

So it's about manually updating the rect vs. having it in an auto-update mode? Phil Davis On 6/13/17 3:01 PM, Devin Asay via use-livecode wrote: So far I’m kind of partial to Scott R’s “Persistent rect”. Conversely, it could be something like “Auto-update rect”, but then the checkbox would

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

So far I’m kind of partial to Scott R’s “Persistent rect”. Conversely, it could be something like “Auto-update rect”, but then the checkbox would be opposite the property setting. That’s almost as bad as something like dontUpdateRect. (Sorry, Scott, plug your ears.) Devin On Jun 13, 2017, at

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

On 6/13/17 4:17 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode wrote: or ‘Clip Group to rect’ There are a few others like that, where the explanation is just the original term (or close) with spaces added. I always felt that didn't explain much. But the suggestion does have company in the PI. --

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

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Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Group crops to rect > Jacque wrote: > I agree with the concept in general, but the word "crop" implies permanent > removal. When you crop an image, it permanently erases the parts outside the > rectangle. Unfortunately I can't think of a better term. Maybe something like > "prevent

Re: clipsToRect property (was Re: Instantiaing Grouped Controls - Templates - Responsive)

Tks Devin for moving this over here. @ Jacque: OK rignt-- agreed "crop" is wrong.. because, yes, it implies "irrevocably chopping off image data" But "lock" also has the problem of assuming the loc is locked, which it is not. How about a word that really is what it does Constrain rect