Re: macOS and the default font in fields
On 5/25/2021 3:06 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On 5/24/21 4:19 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
My objective is to store the defaults for a given OS and version on
startup of my application, so that if the user uses existing controls
to change fonts in various places, I cna provide a means to "Reset"
them to the defaults
The fonts in parentheses are special placeholders for the current
system's various text fonts or styles, created so we don't have to
figure out what that is. You should be able to reset the fields by
assigning one of those, probably either ("Text") or ("Default"), as
the font and let LC figure out what to use. That should work on all
operating systems, including mobile.
I can't explain the discrepancy when getting the effective textFont
but I've been using "(Text)" most of the time with good results.
Yup, that's the solution I went with -- set the textFont of tObject to
"(Text)" -- where tObject is always a field reference and it works well.
As an old school programmer, it just bugs me that some piece of software
(the macOS, LiveCode, whatever) is trying to hide the actual font from
me for whatever reasons.
As always, thanks for replying with the tip.
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Re: macOS and the default font in fields
On 5/24/21 4:19 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote:
My objective is to store the defaults for a given OS and version on startup of my application,
so that if the user uses existing controls to change fonts in various places, I cna provide a
means to "Reset" them to the defaults
The fonts in parentheses are special placeholders for the current system's various text fonts
or styles, created so we don't have to figure out what that is. You should be able to reset the
fields by assigning one of those, probably either ("Text") or ("Default"), as the font and let
LC figure out what to use. That should work on all operating systems, including mobile.
I can't explain the discrepancy when getting the effective textFont but I've been using
"(Text)" most of the time with good results.
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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macOS and the default font in fields
I am hoping some macOS guru out there can explain this in some way that makes sense. LiveCode 9.6.x supports Windows 7 to 10 and macOS 10.9.5 and up (10.16 aka 11.x aka Big Sur) I wanted to know what the default fonts are for each OS and version for Windows and macOS. Google returned a number of sources, such as: https://www.granneman.com/webdev/coding/css/fonts-and-formatting/default-fonts#mac-os-xos-xmacos The above page is very clear for Windows > Segue UI for 7, 8, 8.1 and 10 Mac OS has Lucida Grande for Mavericks, then Helvetica Neue for Yosemite (10.10) and "San Francisco" from 10.11 and up, although this link above does not list 10.15 nor 10.16, but other google searches on Catalina say San Francisco. My problem is "put the effective textFont of fld 1" for a new stack and single field, returns "Segue UI" on Windows (all versions I have tested on) On Mohave (10.14) (my mac's OS), I get "(Text)" and futher, if I lick on properties for the field and the "A" or font properties and look at the font list under Mohave, there is NO "San Francisco". I see a couple Lucida Grande and a WHOLE LOT of Helvetica Neue's, but no "San Francisco" Is the internet wrong on this or is this font hidden or what the heck is going on. If I search Apple's developer site for variations of 'Catalina default font' or 'Big Sur default font', I get to pages like: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211240 (for Big Sur, but pretty much the same for Catalina) where it list all installed fonts and there is a Lucida Grande and Helvetica Neue's, but again NO San Francisco. I think I recall this came up previously as to why 'effective' textFont of an object does not return an ACTUAL font name, which still seems like a bug to me, but I vaguely recall there was some reason for it. My objective is to store the defaults for a given OS and version on startup of my application, so that if the user uses existing controls to change fonts in various places, I cna provide a means to "Reset" them to the defaults I gather from the Dictionary entries for textFont and fontNames that just setting the textFont of a field to "(Default)" will reset it to the applicable default for the control type (field) and OS and OS version. Does this work on Windows? If so, then WHY does "effective textFont" on Windows return Segue UI but on macOS returns (Text), another of these placeholder font names described in the fontNames function entry? Any help making sense of this would be welcome. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
