Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 10/13/2017 10:45 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

That confused me a lot too when I was new until I got used to it. Maybe it should be 
relabeled "Select Groups".


That would make a bit more sense to me.
And then the label could change to "Select Controls".
That way at least there'd only be one paradigm to memorize instead of 
trying to remember whether bold meant On or Off.


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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

That confused me a lot too when I was new until I got used to it. Maybe it 
should be relabeled "Select Groups". 

Bob S


> On Oct 13, 2017, at 10:11 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> The name of the actual LC property is selectGroupedControls, so the label 
> reflects that. Translated, it means "select controls in groups". Maybe that 
> will help trigger recall.


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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

The name of the actual LC property is selectGroupedControls, so the label 
reflects that. Translated, it means "select controls in groups". Maybe that 
will help trigger recall.



On October 13, 2017 11:05:01 AM David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Yes, but I knew what he meant!

The label “Select grouped controls”  is a tad ambiguous.

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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

That is the wonderfult thing (and also precarious thing) about humans. We have 
the uncanny ability to interpret probable intent of our communications. As an 
aside, military organizations go to great lengths to train this out of their 
soldiers because of the havoc it can cause. :-)

Bob S


> On Oct 13, 2017, at 09:02 , David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
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> Yes, but I knew what he meant!


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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

I always have to think twice about of that feature. I really just "see" if it
is bold or not, remembering that bold is for the control, and plain is for
the group.

 It would be far better if it toggled between "Select Group" and "Select
Control" (maybe "Select Grouped Control" is just too wide?).



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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Yes, but I knew what he meant!

The label “Select grouped controls”  is a tad ambiguous.  When selected means 
“Select controls individually (notwithstanding the fact that they are 
grouped)”.   I admit that’s to verbose a label.  Conversely, unselected state 
selects groups rather than grouped controls.

Best wishes,

David Glasgow
> On 13 Oct 2017, at 4:38 pm, prothero--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t this the opposite of what Randy said?
> Bill P
> 
> William Prothero
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>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:47 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just to be clear, turning OFF "Select Grouped" will allow an intact group to
>> be copied. If that feature is on (made bold), even with all the controls
>> within a group copied to another location, those copies will come over as
>> individual controls, and the group will be lost.
>> 
>> Craig Newman
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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[prothero--- via use-livecode]

Isn’t this the opposite of what Randy said?
Bill P

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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:47 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just to be clear, turning OFF "Select Grouped" will allow an intact group to
> be copied. If that feature is on (made bold), even with all the controls
> within a group copied to another location, those copies will come over as
> individual controls, and the group will be lost.
> 
> Craig Newman
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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[dunbarx via use-livecode]

Just to be clear, turning OFF "Select Grouped" will allow an intact group to
be copied. If that feature is on (made bold), even with all the controls
within a group copied to another location, those copies will come over as
individual controls, and the group will be lost.

Craig Newman



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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Thank you so much Randy! 

 It never occurred to me that select group mode would apply in this way, but of 
course it makes perfect sense!

Ah well, back to the grindstone.

Thanks again,

David G

> On 13 Oct 2017, at 1:15 pm, Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> They way I’ve done this is to select the whole group before copying… tuning 
> on “Select Group” rather than the individual controls. That has worked fine… 
> scripts are kept.
> 
> randy
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:33 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Morning folks,
>> 
>> I am on Mac OS 10.12 and using LC 7.1.4
>> 
>> I have been using the IDE menu to copy large numbers of controls from one 
>> card to another card (which is a substack of a different main stack).  It 
>> all looks good, but after doing this for some time, I discovered that all 
>> groups are disappearing, along with any associated scripts.  The once 
>> grouped objects don’t disappear, so at first sight everything looks hunky 
>> dory, but actually is badly broken.
>> 
>> I have searched in the usual places, but can’t see any references to this.
>> 
>> Is this expected behaviour?  Is there any way to preserve groups in a 
>> ‘manual’ copy-paste operation?
>> 
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> David Glasgow
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
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Re: 'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

David,

They way I’ve done this is to select the whole group before copying… tuning on 
“Select Group” rather than the individual controls. That has worked fine… 
scripts are kept.

randy

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 5:33 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Morning folks,
> 
> I am on Mac OS 10.12 and using LC 7.1.4
> 
> I have been using the IDE menu to copy large numbers of controls from one 
> card to another card (which is a substack of a different main stack).  It all 
> looks good, but after doing this for some time, I discovered that all groups 
> are disappearing, along with any associated scripts.  The once grouped 
> objects don’t disappear, so at first sight everything looks hunky dory, but 
> actually is badly broken.
> 
> I have searched in the usual places, but can’t see any references to this.
> 
> Is this expected behaviour?  Is there any way to preserve groups in a 
> ‘manual’ copy-paste operation?
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> David Glasgow
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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'manual' Copy and paste of multiple objects to new card ungroups grouped objects

[David V Glasgow via use-livecode]

Morning folks,

I am on Mac OS 10.12 and using LC 7.1.4

I have been using the IDE menu to copy large numbers of controls from one card 
to another card (which is a substack of a different main stack).  It all looks 
good, but after doing this for some time, I discovered that all groups are 
disappearing, along with any associated scripts.  The once grouped objects 
don’t disappear, so at first sight everything looks hunky dory, but actually is 
badly broken.

I have searched in the usual places, but can’t see any references to this.

Is this expected behaviour?  Is there any way to preserve groups in a ‘manual’ 
copy-paste operation?


Best Wishes,
David Glasgow


  

  
 
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