Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Many thanks mark for explaining. So the IDE is a real 32 bit or a real 64bit application. Am I understanding it correct that it is the same for the executable an LC user/devbuilds for Windows? the build of a stack is a real 64bit? Op di 13 apr. 2021 om 18:09 schreef Mark Waddingham via

RE: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread chipsm themartinz.com via use-livecode
Phone: 626 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of Mark Waddingham via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 9:09 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mark Waddingham Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4 On 2021-04-13 16:46, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > Hi M

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-04-13 16:46, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Hi Mark. I downloaded LC 9.6.2 for Windows and installed it on a Server 2012 VM. It installed in the Program Files (x86) folder. I was under the impression that only happens when the app is a 32 bit app. Then you downloaded the 32-bit

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Mark. I downloaded LC 9.6.2 for Windows and installed it on a Server 2012 VM. It installed in the Program Files (x86) folder. I was under the impression that only happens when the app is a 32 bit app. Are you implying the standalones are 64 bit but the LC app is 32? If that were the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-04-13 16:15, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: Do the release notes need updating? Hah! Yes - we've had a 64-bit windows build (separate installer) available since 9.5. Warmest Regards, Mark. -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 4/13/21 4:48 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: No - its either running as a 32-bit app (if you have installed the 32-bit version of LC) or as a 64-bit app (if you have installed the 64-bit version of LC) - there's no emulation going on - the difference is the processor mode the

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2021-04-09 22:25, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Ya so LC for Windows is basically running in an emulator. No - its either running as a 32-bit app (if you have installed the 32-bit version of LC) or as a 64-bit app (if you have installed the 64-bit version of LC) - there's no

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-13 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 9 Apr 2021, at 20:49, JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are > packed in a 64bit container. I’m not sure about that because my Surface Pro X can only run x86-32 apps and it can run LiveCode. If it was

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Ya so LC for Windows is basically running in an emulator. Bob S > On Apr 9, 2021, at 12:49 , JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode > wrote: > > Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are > packed in a 64bit container. > > PLease correct me if I'm wrong > > Op

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-09 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Of course it's 32bits, even the builds are 32bits on windows except they are packed in a 64bit container. PLease correct me if I'm wrong Op 8-4-2021 om 17:00 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode: To be fail, I do not think the problem is Livecode, I think it’s Windows, and I am not sure

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-08 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
At the turn of the century, so soon after HyperCard's death, it was understandable that Mac users would be disproportionately represented among LC customers. For this to remain the case more than two decades later -- long past the time when most devs have never heard of HyperCard, Windows

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-08 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
I'm running it over vnc to a remote server on a single core (2.4Ghz), 4gb virtual system running Win Server 2016 standard. I edit my code there directly and have only partial lag due mostly to the screen share, dropbox scanning and single core nature of it. I've often made my feelings known about

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
To be fail, I do not think the problem is Livecode, I think it’s Windows, and I am not sure there is much LC can do to get around whatever it is causing these issues. It could be that LC is still a 32 bit app (it installs in the 32 bit app folder). Bob S On Apr 8, 2021, at 7:45 AM, Andre

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-08 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
LiveCode is wy less responsive on Windows than on a Mac. The script editor hangs all the time, even when you turn off all the smart stuff. Removing it from defender and stuff helps but doesn’t solve the problem. LC is quite neglected on Windows and Linux. I understand that mac is the money

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Lagi, I feel your pain, I do. However, I only see a moderate amount of unresponsiveness and I can usually put it down to the way I use it on Windoze in a VM on a Mac. The stack I am working on at the moment takes 5 seconds to save on mac side but 30 seconds on the Win10. My colleague running on a

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I just DL LC 9.6.2 RC4 on a Windows VM running Server 2012R2. Saving is much faster, although not quite up to speed with the Mac OS. Querying a database however seems to be quite slow. When running a tick counter on my MacOS I get this: sites: 7 devices: 4 accessories: 6 service: 7 service: 6

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/7/2021 3:57 PM, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: Unresponsive to me is typing 10 characters and seeing them appear one by 1 after I have finished typing , or waiting for 3 4 or more seconds between each debugger step .. I'm not saying you're not seeing an unacceptable slow down on

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
Hi Lagi, What unresponsiveness in windows 10 are you referring to? the one that needs wait 0 with messages to avoid a frozen window? I just reported what i think is a bug that has been there for years and thats endless high cpu usage when using -ui flag . on WIndows 10 ... and 7. I think. I

Re: [ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi The unresponsiveness in Big Su is fixed and Ive only been asking for 3 or 4 years that the unresponsiveness in windows 10 (and probably 7) is fixed. I have a 10th generation core I7 with 16G of ram and it runs like molasses - especially when using the debugger. Ive tried EVERYTHING short of

[ANN] Release 9.6.2 RC-4

2021-04-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.2 RC-4 comes with 1