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2012-09-15 Thread Jim Hurley
Thanks Kay. The "complete external kit" sounds like a particularly good idea. It allows me to test the next step in the process before proceeding. Jim > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:28:07 +0800 > From: Kay C Lan > To: How to use LiveCode > Subjec

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-14 Thread Devin Asay
Scott, I'm with Bob, Steven, Paul and others. I manage a lot of Macs, and I have often seen behavior like this on hard drives that are failing. The good news is that if you have a good backup, you can basically restore it to a new HD and be up and running. Devin Devin Asay Office of Digital H

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2012-09-13 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Jim Hurley wrote: > But I have one more very sophisticated diagnostic test I perform. I > listen. Every so often, the HD on my Mac Mini squeaks for a few minutes. > That can't be good. > Are you sure it's the HD, that would be very very unusual. What about the fa

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote: > > I'm also pretty sure you can install a copy of your OS on a USB memory > stick, you may need a reasonable size stick, but they are not too expensive > now and it should help you determine where the error lies, you'll also see > how fast the

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2012-09-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Jim. I didn't mean to imply I knew more, as I can see that may be how my post looked. I say that to give people confidence in following my IT advice. Sorry if it sounded like I was being condescending. That being said, the internal SATA interface is always going to be faster that an externa

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Look at RAM usage. Also . . . I ran RAM test after RAM test, passed them all (including all night runs). On the third trip in, apple swapped out the iMac. Got better, but more panics. On trip 4, they figured out that it was my third party ram

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Dar Scott
I mentioned temperature. There are some temperature monitor applications out there. Some work. Somebody mentioned thrashing. I think that is likely, too. Even more likely. Perhaps most people do not upgrade the RAM in their mac minis, but do upgrade systems and tools and work on bigger and

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2012-09-13 Thread Jim Hurley
> > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:53:37 -0700 > From: Bob Sneidar > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii &

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Richmond
On 09/13/2012 08:48 PM, -=>JB<=- wrote: About a year ago the hard drive on my mac mini failed. I would be using the computer and all of a sudden things would slow down for a little bit and then run normal again. I can't remember if there was a beachball showing but it might have been. You shou

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Jerry Jensen
I agree with Bob and Stephen. This looks like a failing drive. I just had similar symptoms happen on a server (yikes!) with a failing drive that was external, connected via FireWire. It isn't even necessarily trouble with an internal drive. I'm also a fan of Carbon Copy Cloner (bombich.com). $40

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2012-09-13 Thread -=>JB<=-
About a year ago the hard drive on my mac mini failed. I would be using the computer and all of a sudden things would slow down for a little bit and then run normal again. I can't remember if there was a beachball showing but it might have been. You should back up your drive now if you haven't a

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Paul Hibbert
Scott, >From my own experience I would totally agree with Bob. I'm also pretty sure >you can install a copy of your OS on a USB memory stick, you may need a >reasonable size stick, but they are not too expensive now and it should help >you determine where the error lies, you'll also see how fas

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Mike Bonner
Oops, meant page-outs. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: > I'll second the heat check. If your mini is like mine it doesn't take > much to push it up into the area of cpu throttling. This is a 2011 model > and currently I have it on a laptop cooler with the bottom of the case

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
If spotlight is failing it is because it has encountered bad blocks in the indexing process, and the attempt to relocate the data has failed. Read my prior post. I'm really good at this stuff. It's what I do for a living. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > The Spotlight p

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Bob Sneidar
Scott, your hard drive is failing. What happens is, when the OS detects a bad block or sector on the hard drive, there are routines in place to attempt to move the data to another location. This is a very high priority system event, even higher than mouse clicks. You will not be able to interact

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread François Chaplais
If you have external drives, you may check their power adapter. One of mine got a too old one day; I checked it was responsible by swapping it with another adapter. So I ordered another power adapter and my data remained on the disk. Best François Le 13 sept. 2012 à 11:09, stephen barncar

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread stephen barncard
Drives seem to fail more slowly these days when they do - they use to 'just go' but now with big buffers and error correction, the drives just try to jam the data over and over until they get it without errors - or eventually not. However most of the drives of today seem really reliable - more s

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2012-09-13 Thread Mike Bonner
I'll second the heat check. If your mini is like mine it doesn't take much to push it up into the area of cpu throttling. This is a 2011 model and currently I have it on a laptop cooler with the bottom of the case nudged open. Made a huge difference. Also installed fanspeed and adjusted parameter

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Heather Nagey
Scott, Until recently I was working on a Mac Mini with a very similar setup and very similar issues. I managed to give it a new lease of life for a while, by backing up pretty much all my files elsewhere and then deleting them from the mini - clean desktop, clean downloads, clean documents… I a

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-13 Thread Pierre Sahores
Scott, I had the same kind of problems on one of my MacBook Pro (i7 2.66 Ghz 4Go RAM OS X 10.6.8) while it never occured on the second one (i5 2.4 Ghz 4 Go RAM OS X 10.7.4). The sole solution i found to stop having its fan running > 5500 RPM all over the day, even when the processor was in idl

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
I did just now. If you're a conspiracy theorist, these lines, which appear dozens of times, are pretty good: 9/12/12 10:51:46 PMMasterControlProgram connection attempt made. 9/12/12 10:52:25 PMMasterControlProgram ** WE ARE __NOT__ CONNECTED ** I was concerned for a moment until I realiz

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM, stephen barncard < stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com> wrote: > Scott, I had something like this - and it turned out to be a half working > hard drive. > You could use xBench http://xbench.com/ if you don't have Drive Genius to test your HD speeds. Should be fairly o

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Gracie Guglielmo, I just ran this utility also. No major issues found. There may indeed be a deeper hardware problem as mentioned previously. Not fun. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia wrote: > Ciao Scott, > >

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Have you looked into the console logs to see if anything interesting shows up? Sent from my iPad On 13 Sep 2012, at 06:07, Scott Rossi wrote: > The Spotlight processes that I read about are mds and mdworker. I haven't > changed anything significant lately (that I think is significant) but th

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Guglielmo Braguglia
Ciao Scott, mmm ... Disk Utility is often useless :-( If really you want to repair disk problems, use DiskWarrior (http://www.alsoft.com/diskwarrior/) a little bit expensive, but probably the best disk utility on OSX ! ... saved me many times ;-) Guglielmo On 13.09.2012 06:02, Scott Rossi

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread stephen barncard
Scott, I had something like this - and it turned out to be a half working hard drive. The test said ok but there was some intermittent stuff going on. I ended up starting with a new drive, new install, and the migration assistant which works pretty well these days. In your case restoring means you

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
The Spotlight processes that I read about are mds and mdworker. I haven't changed anything significant lately (that I think is significant) but the system might think otherwise. I just don't know what else to look for. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Well, if you have no solution, I'll take your sympathy. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > > On 13/09/2012, at 02:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > >> Hi List: >> >> Apologies for posting something other than a EULA op

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
You mean my 20 volume set of Encyclopedia Brittanicas shouldn't be piled on top of the Mini for safe keeping? ( Thanks, might try to see if anything happens if the system is cooled down, but no printed volumes are currently being warehoused on the device. ) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Direct

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight > indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the > processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain > this is the problem (not a regular cul

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Terry Judd
On 13/09/2012, at 02:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Hi List: > > Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering > if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing > random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in > th

Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Dar Scott
Temperature? If you think maybe... If you are powering a lot on USB and Firewire, maybe the USB devices should go on a powered hub and the firewire devices should have power plugged in. And take the dictionary off the top of the mini. Dar On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: >

[OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi List: Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in the Finder = beachball; launch an application = beachball; crea