Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-06-06 Thread Bob Sneidar
everyone make it so difficult to get admin privileges? ;) Regards, Fraser Further entertainment: I successfully installed the 7.0.0 DP 5 'second attempt' with the All Users option. When I launched it [Livecode 7.0.0 dp 5] it offered me the chance to UPGRADE to version 6.7.0 dp 4. Lovely

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-06-06 Thread Dar Scott
: I successfully installed the 7.0.0 DP 5 'second attempt' with the All Users option. When I launched it [Livecode 7.0.0 dp 5] it offered me the chance to UPGRADE to version 6.7.0 dp 4. Lovely :) Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-29 Thread Phil Jimmieson
At Richard's suggestion, I've submitted an enhancement request for this. http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12558 On 28 May 2014, at 15:40, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Phil Jimmieson wrote: Currently, if you save a stack with version 7 of LiveCode and try and

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Richmond
On 27/05/14 12:06, Fraser Gordon wrote: Hi all, There have been a number of problems reported with the Linux builds of LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5. As far as I've been able to tell, these were due to a build problem that resulted in DP4 being re-packaged as DP5. I've now re-built and re-uploaded

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Foraker wrote: When I opened a couple of large stacks I use every day in the stable version of 7.0 CE, both stacks got corrupted on the first save. This happened twice in a row, so I've now gone back to 6.5.2. I had a client recently refer to a stable build of 7.0, but everything I can

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 27/05/14 12:06, Fraser Gordon wrote: Hi all, There have been a number of problems reported with the Linux builds of LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5. As far as I've been able to tell, these were due to a build problem that resulted in DP4 being re-packaged as DP5. I've now re-built

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread Phil Jimmieson
Currently, if you save a stack with version 7 of LiveCode and try and open it with version 6.6.1 (for example) you get the message: Unable to open stack: Stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. Could Rev not get LiveCode to read the version number off the stack when it tried to open it

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread Alex Tweedly
I'd be willing to bet it wasn't a corrupted stack, merely the result of the scary message you get when LC tries to load a stack saved with a later version - e.g. if it is saved with 7.0 and later you try to load it with 6.6 -- Alex. On 28/05/2014 14:54, Richard Gaskin wrote: Paul Foraker

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Phil Jimmieson wrote: Currently, if you save a stack with version 7 of LiveCode and try and open it with version 6.6.1 (for example) you get the message: Unable to open stack: Stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. Could Rev not get LiveCode to read the version number off the stack

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 28 May 2014, at 15:01, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: The You Only requirement when installing under a non-admin account seems an unnecessary drag. When I install any .deb file I'm prompted to enter an admin password, but the LC installer only prompts for the current

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
The file format has changed, so stacks saved in 7.0 can't be opened again in previous versions. Is that what happened? This is the second time I've heard someone say that 7.0 was stable. I thought we were still at dp. I wonder if the community edition is reporting incorrectly in the updater

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
Exactly what happened to me, but I've never seen it. That's what makes me think there's a difference between the commercial and community notifications. On May 28, 2014 8:54:10 AM CDT, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I had a client recently refer to a stable build of 7.0,

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Richmond
things stopped working. Why does everyone make it so difficult to get admin privileges? ;) Regards, Fraser Further entertainment: I successfully installed the 7.0.0 DP 5 'second attempt' with the All Users option. When I launched it [Livecode 7.0.0 dp 5] it offered me the chance to UPGRADE

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Gaskin
Fraser Gordon wrote: All LiveCode does during the install is to re-launch itself using gksu: gksu --preserve-env /path/to/installer.x86 $MAGIC_INSTALLER_OPTIONS The installer relies on the gksu programme to do the authentication and authorisation magic; it can't really influence how it

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-28 Thread Richmond
to install 7.0.0 dp 5, I clicked on All Users, was asked for my password, and everything installed 'seamlessly', insofar as that was all I has to do and Livecode 7.0.0 dp 5 duly appeared in the standard XFCE menu under 'Development' and in Whisker menu in the same place. I, honestly don't know what

LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
Hi all, There have been a number of problems reported with the Linux builds of LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5. As far as I've been able to tell, these were due to a build problem that resulted in DP4 being re-packaged as DP5. I've now re-built and re-uploaded the Linux installers for DP5 to the downloads

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 May 2014, at 18:12, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Fraser- Monday, May 26, 2014, 3:55:29 AM, you wrote: DP4 and DP5 have been officially released. Is that you speaking in an official capacity or just noting the fact? Both DP4 and DP5 were released on Friday the 23rd

Re: LiveCode 7.0.0-DP-5 Linux

2014-05-27 Thread Peter Alcibiades
Can you give any idea how long for the 64 bit version? If we are talking 6 months or less, I will wait for it, if its more, I'll install the 32 bit version. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/LiveCode-7-0-0-DP-5-Linux-tp4680016p4680026.html

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
Richmond refuses to use the water wings. Bob S On May 25, 2014, at 09:52 , Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.netmailto:mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 9:26:57 AM, you wrote: It shows the same build number in the About screen. You have to wonder exactly where the

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Bob Sneidar
I suppose this means Richmond and I think alike… On May 25, 2014, at 10:29 , Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.commailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Some of us are wanting to get deeper into the pool (and I don't mean the brown, smelly one), but are waiting on some PPC waterwings . . .

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Mike Kerner
Or you're that other personality of his that keeps logging in and commenting on different threads... On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote: I suppose this means Richmond and I think alike… On May 25, 2014, at 10:29 , Richmond

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Richmond
On 27/05/14 23:43, Mike Kerner wrote: Or you're that other personality of his that keeps logging in and commenting on different threads... None of my personalities are responsible for any comments made by any of the other personalities. Notwithstanding, at least one of my personalities,

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-27 Thread Paul Foraker
When I opened a couple of large stacks I use every day in the stable version of 7.0 CE, both stacks got corrupted on the first save. This happened twice in a row, so I've now gone back to 6.5.2. -- Paul ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Dar Scott
I’m coming in late in this and might be putting my foot into my mouth. I just looked at the download page and I see 7.0 dp4 and 7.0 dp5. I guess they were part of the LiveCode Jam weekend activities. Dar On May 25, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Warren-

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/26/2014 12:53 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: That's what I thought. This urban legend has been batted around lately. Um, what is it you thought? I didn't say I once heard somebody say their friend's uncle told them about a neighbor... urban legend style. It was my own (recent) observation. I

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Colin Holgate
During Kevin's thing he did tell us all to go try the new build that had just been posted. I'm guessing that was dp4. If you do a check for updates now, or even just open LiveCode, you’ll see you can install dp5. One slightly confusing thing is that the installer is now just replacing the

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26/05/2014 08:27, Colin Holgate wrote: During Kevin's thing he did tell us all to go try the new build that had just been posted. I'm guessing that was dp4. If you do a check for updates now, or even just open LiveCode, you’ll see you can install dp5. DP4 and DP5 have been officially

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-26 Thread Mark Wieder
Fraser- Monday, May 26, 2014, 3:55:29 AM, you wrote: DP4 and DP5 have been officially released. Is that you speaking in an official capacity or just noting the fact? The downloads web page doesn't show any versions which we haven't deliberately made publicly available. The release notes

7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Richmond
Problems: 1. The menubar (Linux) states it it dp 4. 2. Still unable to put an insertion point into the search fields in the Dictionary and RevOnline. 3. Double-clicking on a control in the toolbar does nothing. 4. Unable to switch back and forth between Browse and Point except via the

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/25/2014 10:29 AM, Richmond wrote: Problems: 1. The menubar (Linux) states it it dp 4. 2. Still unable to put an insertion point into the search fields in the Dictionary and RevOnline. 3. Double-clicking on a control in the toolbar does nothing. 4. Unable to switch back and forth

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 9:26:57 AM, you wrote: It shows the same build number in the About screen. You have to wonder exactly where the mixup is. If you're going to follow Richmond into the deep end of the pool, you might want to build the source from the development branch. Either

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Richmond
10.4.11 and Xubuntu PPC. Kevin made the release announcement for 7.0.0 dp 5 in his pre Q A blurb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq2BNghE9yc so the cat is out of the bag. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/25/2014 11:52 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: or wait for an actual release announcement. Mark, If we assume this is a mislabeled dp4, I suppose it's possible there are problems resolved in the actual dp5 that we can't experience just yet, but the issues he's talking about here have plagued

7.0.0 dp 5 Serial Communications fail

2014-05-25 Thread Camm
Hi , Serial Communications seems to be broke in 7.0.0 dp 5 , noticed this was listed as bug fix ? Regards Camm ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/05/14 20:56, Warren Samples wrote: On 05/25/2014 11:52 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: or wait for an actual release announcement. Mark, If we assume this is a mislabeled dp4, I suppose it's possible there are problems resolved in the actual dp5 that we can't experience just yet, but the

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 25/05/2014 16:29, Richmond wrote: Problems: 1. The menubar (Linux) states it it dp 4. Mea cupla! As we spent Friday working on bugfixes for the Global Jam, we wanted to get out a new release of 7 as soon as possible as quite a few bugs were resolved. Unfortunately, coming at the end of the

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 10:29:02 AM, you wrote: Kevin made the release announcement for 7.0.0 dp 5 in his pre Q A blurb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq2BNghE9yc so the cat is out of the bag. Without wanting to spend a Sunday watching an hour of Kevin in order to find out what

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 10:56:30 AM, you wrote: If we assume this is a mislabeled dp4, ...which was also not announced... -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Fraser- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 11:16:51 AM, you wrote: We also intend to supply 64-bit Linux builds in the near future. I look forward to being able to build those again. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/05/14 21:16, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 25/05/2014 16:29, Richmond wrote: Problems: 1. The menubar (Linux) states it it dp 4. Mea cupla! As we spent Friday working on bugfixes for the Global Jam, we wanted to get out a new release of 7 as soon as possible as quite a few bugs were resolved.

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/05/14 21:55, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 10:29:02 AM, you wrote: Kevin made the release announcement for 7.0.0 dp 5 in his pre Q A blurb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq2BNghE9yc so the cat is out of the bag. Without wanting to spend a Sunday watching an hour

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/25/2014 01:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: ...which was also not announced... With so many parallel versions and more than one place to track announcements, it's hard to be sure exactly what is current. The fact that there is a public link on the LiveCode site to downloads of versions

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5 Serial Communications fail

2014-05-25 Thread Dar Scott
fixed, I’m hoping we can do some loop-back tests. That is easier for us and easier for creating test stacks to illustrate the bug. Dar On May 25, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Hi , Serial Communications seems to be broke in 7.0.0 dp 5 , noticed this was listed as bug

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5 Serial Communications fail

2014-05-25 Thread Dar Scott
If you are reading ‘until empty’, try a timeout. The timeout is probably fixed. On May 25, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Camm cam...@tesco.net wrote: Hi , Serial Communications seems to be broke in 7.0.0 dp 5 , noticed this was listed as bug fix ? Regards Camm

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 12:31:34 PM, you wrote: With so many parallel versions and more than one place to track announcements, it's hard to be sure exactly what is current. Ah, ok... maybe I missed something here. You're saying there was a version that was released but wasn't announced

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/25/2014 10:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 12:31:34 PM, you wrote: With so many parallel versions and more than one place to track announcements, it's hard to be sure exactly what is current. Ah, ok... maybe I missed something here. You're saying there was a

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
That's what the dp and rc designations are for, but it would probably be more clear if there was a statement on the page explaining what those mean, along with appropriate caveats. Final releases should be clearly marked as stable. On May 25, 2014 11:05:33 PM CDT, Warren Samples

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Warren Samples
On 05/25/2014 11:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: That's what the dp and rc designations are for, but it would probably be more clear if there was a statement on the page explaining what those mean, along with appropriate caveats. Final releases should be clearly marked as stable. We're

Re: 7.0.0 dp 5

2014-05-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Warren- Sunday, May 25, 2014, 9:05:33 PM, you wrote: There was recently a version announced on one list which I did not see announced on the other. It struck me as odd. I don't remember which That's what I thought. This urban legend has been batted around lately. Time to put it to rest. Here