Re: AW: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-27 Thread Ray
Agreed.  I'm not seeing any of the major problems on 6.5.2 which 7.X has 
regarding players.  If you're considering updating my suggestion would 
be to wait until you're sure 7.X is truly stable in this area.  The only 
issue I have with 6.5.2, a minor issue, is I can't see Quicktime movies 
when re-assigning the Source.  The easy work-around is to choose to show 
All Files.


On 1/27/2015 5:18 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hi Ray,
I am only working with 6.5.2 for my live product and the major feature is
playing videos. I have never had any issues with changing the source pretty
straight forward with this version.
Tiemo


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Betreff: Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

Exactly - this is actually under two different bug reports now, #14437 and
#14449.  I realized after adding to the 2nd report that I'm also not able to
'see' Quicktime movies, even in 6.5.2, when assigning a new Source to a
player.  Hopefully all these things will be addressed when the team at
Livecode looks into these bugs.

Thanks...

On 1/26/2015 2:38 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Seems like most of the problems with the player control have been in
LC 7 but I'm seeing issues in 6.7.

Hard hang in circumstances I haven't quite nailed down yet.
Command-period doesn't work and have to force quit.



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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Richmond
richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:


On 24/01/15 02:29, Ray wrote:


On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

 1)  create a new main stack
 2)  drag a player object onto it
 3)  remove the default fileName (source)
 4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
corrupted and will not re-open.

Anybody know anything about this?



I just tried this (sorry, late to the party) with 7.0.2 rc1 on Ubuntu
Studio 14.10 and it crashed the IDE . . .

I looked here: /home/richmond/.runrev/crashlogs but the directory was
empty

as was: /home/richmond/.runrev/logs

Richmond.


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AW: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-27 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Ray,
I am only working with 6.5.2 for my live product and the major feature is
playing videos. I have never had any issues with changing the source pretty
straight forward with this version.
Tiemo


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Betreff: Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

Exactly - this is actually under two different bug reports now, #14437 and
#14449.  I realized after adding to the 2nd report that I'm also not able to
'see' Quicktime movies, even in 6.5.2, when assigning a new Source to a
player.  Hopefully all these things will be addressed when the team at
Livecode looks into these bugs.

Thanks...

On 1/26/2015 2:38 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
 Seems like most of the problems with the player control have been in 
 LC 7 but I'm seeing issues in 6.7.

 Hard hang in circumstances I haven't quite nailed down yet. 
 Command-period doesn't work and have to force quit.



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 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Richmond 
 richmondmathew...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On 24/01/15 02:29, Ray wrote:

 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

 1)  create a new main stack
 2)  drag a player object onto it
 3)  remove the default fileName (source)
 4)  save the stack file

 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other 
 options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been 
 corrupted and will not re-open.

 Anybody know anything about this?


 I just tried this (sorry, late to the party) with 7.0.2 rc1 on Ubuntu 
 Studio 14.10 and it crashed the IDE . . .

 I looked here: /home/richmond/.runrev/crashlogs but the directory was 
 empty

 as was: /home/richmond/.runrev/logs

 Richmond.


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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-26 Thread Peter Haworth
Seems like most of the problems with the player control have been in LC 7
but I'm seeing issues in 6.7.

Hard hang in circumstances I haven't quite nailed down yet. Command-period
doesn't work and have to force quit.



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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 24/01/15 02:29, Ray wrote:

 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

1)  create a new main stack
2)  drag a player object onto it
3)  remove the default fileName (source)
4)  save the stack file

 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
 options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
 corrupted and will not re-open.

 Anybody know anything about this?


 I just tried this (sorry, late to the party) with 7.0.2 rc1 on Ubuntu
 Studio 14.10
 and it crashed the IDE . . .

 I looked here: /home/richmond/.runrev/crashlogs but the directory was
 empty

 as was: /home/richmond/.runrev/logs

 Richmond.


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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-26 Thread Ray
Exactly - this is actually under two different bug reports now, #14437 
and #14449.  I realized after adding to the 2nd report that I'm also not 
able to 'see' Quicktime movies, even in 6.5.2, when assigning a new 
Source to a player.  Hopefully all these things will be addressed when 
the team at Livecode looks into these bugs.


Thanks...

On 1/26/2015 2:38 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

Seems like most of the problems with the player control have been in LC 7
but I'm seeing issues in 6.7.

Hard hang in circumstances I haven't quite nailed down yet. Command-period
doesn't work and have to force quit.



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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com
wrote:


On 24/01/15 02:29, Ray wrote:


On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

1)  create a new main stack
2)  drag a player object onto it
3)  remove the default fileName (source)
4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
corrupted and will not re-open.

Anybody know anything about this?



I just tried this (sorry, late to the party) with 7.0.2 rc1 on Ubuntu
Studio 14.10
and it crashed the IDE . . .

I looked here: /home/richmond/.runrev/crashlogs but the directory was
empty

as was: /home/richmond/.runrev/logs

Richmond.


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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Peter Haworth
I get the same problem here with Yosemite and LC 7.0.2.  Works OK with
7.0.1.

Ray, you can vary the playback speed by setting the playRate property of
the player.  A value of 1 is normal speed, 0.5 is half speed, etc.  As long
as you're not using LC 7 of course since it won't play anything right now.

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 Bob, thanks for your insight regarding the saved stack files and Paul,
 thanks for posting this bug.  I might add something to it since I'm having
 trouble getting a player in 7.0.2 RC1 to play anything at all.

 If you know of any other way for me to play a sound at half speed or any
 other speed than the normal speed please let me know.

 Thanks!


 On 1/24/2015 2:49 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote:

 Ray,

 I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a
 serious bug so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number is
 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to add
 to it.

 Regards

 Paul


  On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:

 Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to
 step 3, then LC crashed!

 Have you filed a bug report yet?

 If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.

 Paul

  On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file

 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
 options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
 corrupted and will not re-open.

 Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Ray

Sorry Richmond, not sure about that one.  Thanks for the added report.

On 1/24/2015 5:54 PM, Richmond wrote:

Tangentially . . .

Where ARE Livecode crash logs stored on Linux?

Richmond.

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Richmond

On 24/01/15 02:29, Ray wrote:

On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other 
options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been 
corrupted and will not re-open.


Anybody know anything about this?



I just tried this (sorry, late to the party) with 7.0.2 rc1 on Ubuntu 
Studio 14.10

and it crashed the IDE . . .

I looked here: /home/richmond/.runrev/crashlogs but the directory was empty

as was: /home/richmond/.runrev/logs

Richmond.

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Richmond

Tangentially . . .

Where ARE Livecode crash logs stored on Linux?

Richmond.

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Peter Haworth
I've been trying the player in 6.7 and it too has problems although not as
bad as 7.

It looks like the 7 player but actually plays music files.  However, I've
experienced hard hangs with it which require a force quit. Haven't nailed
down the circumstances yet.

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 Guys - I've just downloaded (once again) Livecode 6.5.2 and found as to be
 expected everything working fine regarding the playback of audio and video
 files via a player object.  This includes setting the playRate to something
 other than 1.  I set it to .5 to play at half speed.

 I also get the expected controller in the player window running 6.5.2,
 another thing which is missing in 7.x players.  The entire player in 7.x
 seems to be non-functional in every way.

 On 1/24/2015 2:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

 I get the same problem here with Yosemite and LC 7.0.2.  Works OK with
 7.0.1.

 Ray, you can vary the playback speed by setting the playRate property of
 the player.  A value of 1 is normal speed, 0.5 is half speed, etc.  As
 long
 as you're not using LC 7 of course since it won't play anything right now.

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 On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

  Bob, thanks for your insight regarding the saved stack files and Paul,
 thanks for posting this bug.  I might add something to it since I'm
 having
 trouble getting a player in 7.0.2 RC1 to play anything at all.

 If you know of any other way for me to play a sound at half speed or any
 other speed than the normal speed please let me know.

 Thanks!


 On 1/24/2015 2:49 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote:

  Ray,

 I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a
 serious bug so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number
 is
 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to
 add
 to it.

 Regards

 Paul


   On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:

 Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to
 step 3, then LC crashed!

 Have you filed a bug report yet?

 If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to
 it.

 Paul

   On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

1)  create a new main stack
2)  drag a player object onto it
3)  remove the default fileName (source)
4)  save the stack file

 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
 options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
 corrupted and will not re-open.

 Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread ray
I'll check it and get back to you but in my situation that would be really 
unattractive.  We just came through rough upgrade from 6.5.2 to the (stable) 
7.x and new audio bugs are still being found.  Now that audio will play after a 
wait I'd hate to return to considering downgrading 6.5.2 again.  But I'll test 
the play rate in 6.5.2 and post...


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


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From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com 
Date:01/24/2015  2:36 PM  (GMT-04:00) 
To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com 
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Subject: Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files 

I get the same problem here with Yosemite and LC 7.0.2.  Works OK with
7.0.1.

Ray, you can vary the playback speed by setting the playRate property of
the player.  A value of 1 is normal speed, 0.5 is half speed, etc.  As long
as you're not using LC 7 of course since it won't play anything right now.

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 Bob, thanks for your insight regarding the saved stack files and Paul,
 thanks for posting this bug.  I might add something to it since I'm having
 trouble getting a player in 7.0.2 RC1 to play anything at all.

 If you know of any other way for me to play a sound at half speed or any
 other speed than the normal speed please let me know.

 Thanks!


 On 1/24/2015 2:49 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote:

 Ray,

 I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a
 serious bug so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number is
 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to add
 to it.

 Regards

 Paul


  On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:

 Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to
 step 3, then LC crashed!

 Have you filed a bug report yet?

 If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.

 Paul

  On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file

 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
 options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
 corrupted and will not re-open.

 Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Ray
Bob, thanks for your insight regarding the saved stack files and Paul, 
thanks for posting this bug.  I might add something to it since I'm 
having trouble getting a player in 7.0.2 RC1 to play anything at all.


If you know of any other way for me to play a sound at half speed or any 
other speed than the normal speed please let me know.


Thanks!

On 1/24/2015 2:49 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote:

Ray,

I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a serious bug 
so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number is 
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to add to it.

Regards

Paul



On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:

Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to step 3, 
then LC crashed!

Have you filed a bug report yet?

If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.

Paul


On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

  1)  create a new main stack
  2)  drag a player object onto it
  3)  remove the default fileName (source)
  4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other options I 
close the program and find my entire stack file has been corrupted and will not re-open.

Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-24 Thread Ray
Guys - I've just downloaded (once again) Livecode 6.5.2 and found as to 
be expected everything working fine regarding the playback of audio and 
video files via a player object.  This includes setting the playRate to 
something other than 1.  I set it to .5 to play at half speed.


I also get the expected controller in the player window running 6.5.2, 
another thing which is missing in 7.x players.  The entire player in 7.x 
seems to be non-functional in every way.


On 1/24/2015 2:36 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:

I get the same problem here with Yosemite and LC 7.0.2.  Works OK with
7.0.1.

Ray, you can vary the playback speed by setting the playRate property of
the player.  A value of 1 is normal speed, 0.5 is half speed, etc.  As long
as you're not using LC 7 of course since it won't play anything right now.

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:


Bob, thanks for your insight regarding the saved stack files and Paul,
thanks for posting this bug.  I might add something to it since I'm having
trouble getting a player in 7.0.2 RC1 to play anything at all.

If you know of any other way for me to play a sound at half speed or any
other speed than the normal speed please let me know.

Thanks!


On 1/24/2015 2:49 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote:


Ray,

I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a
serious bug so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number is
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to add
to it.

Regards

Paul


  On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:

Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to
step 3, then LC crashed!

Have you filed a bug report yet?

If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.

Paul

  On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:

On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other
options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been
corrupted and will not re-open.

Anybody know anything about this?

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7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-23 Thread Ray

On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other 
options I close the program and find my entire stack file has been 
corrupted and will not re-open.


Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-23 Thread Bob Sneidar
Check if there is a file at the same location as you original with a tilde in 
the file name (~). If the crash happened during the save, this file is your old 
file before you saved it.

Bob S


On Jan 23, 2015, at 16:29 , Ray r...@linkit.commailto:r...@linkit.com wrote:

On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:

  1)  create a new main stack
  2)  drag a player object onto it
  3)  remove the default fileName (source)
  4)  save the stack file

At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other options I 
close the program and find my entire stack file has been corrupted and will not 
re-open.

Anybody know anything about this?

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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-23 Thread Paul Hibbert
Ray,

I tried this a couple of times and realised that it is definitely a serious bug 
so I decided to report it, hope you don't mind, the number is 
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14437 if you would like to add to it.

Regards

Paul


 On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:09 PM, Paul Hibbert p...@livecode.org wrote:
 
 Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to step 3, 
 then LC crashed!
 
 Have you filed a bug report yet?
 
 If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.
 
 Paul
 
 On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:
 
 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:
 
  1)  create a new main stack
  2)  drag a player object onto it
  3)  remove the default fileName (source)
  4)  save the stack file
 
 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other options I 
 close the program and find my entire stack file has been corrupted and will 
 not re-open.
 
 Anybody know anything about this?
 
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Re: 7.0.2 RC1 Crashes and Corrupts Stack Files

2015-01-23 Thread Paul Hibbert
Just tried this on OS X 10.10.1 (Yosemite) and only managed to get to step 3, 
then LC crashed!

Have you filed a bug report yet?

If you have I can add to it, if not I'll file one and you can add to it.

Paul

 On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ray r...@linkit.com wrote:
 
 On my Windows 8.1 system I do the following:
 
   1)  create a new main stack
   2)  drag a player object onto it
   3)  remove the default fileName (source)
   4)  save the stack file
 
 At this point I get Livecode has stopped working.  With no other options I 
 close the program and find my entire stack file has been corrupted and will 
 not re-open.
 
 Anybody know anything about this?
 
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