Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I think that Oracle Media Objects was based on the Plus code, which also had 
its own life as a Windows only tool. I programmed a 12 CD-ROM series in OMO, 
though we didn’t get around doing the last two. You can still buy those 
CD-ROMs, but I think thy wouldn’t work on a modern OS:

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Secret-Century-Archival-Marketers/dp/155940/ref=sr_1_3?s=books=UTF8=1497473493=1-3


> On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:04 PM, james--- via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be 
> off.)
> 
> HyperCard
> Supercard
> Director
> IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I 
> forget..)
> Oracle Media Objects
> Metropolis (I really like this)
> Meta card
> Revolution
> .long sojourn "silver surfing" into the land of 4D
> LiveCode
> 
> James
> 
>> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking 
>> back...
>> 
>> HyperCard
>> Supercard
>> Plus
>> Oracle Media Objects
>> Toolbook
>> MetaCard
>> Revolution
>> Livecode
>> 
>> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-13 Thread james--- via use-livecode
Goodness, I am not sure if it is a good idea to remember (sequence may be off.)

HyperCard
Supercard
Director
IShell (as well as the Apple technology it was based on, but whose name I 
forget..)
Oracle Media Objects
Metropolis (I really like this)
Meta card
Revolution
.long sojourn "silver surfing" into the land of 4D
LiveCode

James

> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking 
> back...
> 
> HyperCard
> Supercard
> Plus
> Oracle Media Objects
> Toolbook
> MetaCard
> Revolution
> Livecode
> 
> Jeff



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
The most important thing is your message is "I remember teaching myself" 
. . .


LiveCode should be banging on about this endlessly; I am trying to teach 
myself C#

and getting thoroughly bogged down.

I am also gently teaching myself HyperNext, and because that is 
Object-based like Hypercard
and LiveCode it is pretty painless. HyperNext is an effort put together 
by one person, and as such
is both amazing as a one-person job and considerably inferior to 
LiveCode for the same reason.


Admittedly I did teach myself PASCAL in 1984 (mainly because I really 
couldn't even begin to
understand what the lecturers in the Maths department were talking 
about): but, having got through that

when I "found" Hypercard (1993) the whole thing was far less painful.

LiveCode is quite modular (if one thinks of controls as modules) and as 
such one can
build up from simples to very complicated stuff (c.f. LEGO) relatively 
easily and quickly.


Richmond.

On 6/13/17 6:31 pm, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote:

Ditto… I remember teaching myself HyperCard scripting by writing a speaking 
clock. Wonder what happened to that bit of code?

Good that we’re still here though.

Graham


On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking back...

HyperCard
Supercard
Plus
Oracle Media Objects
Toolbook
MetaCard
Revolution
Livecode

Jeff


Me too.

Bob S



On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
 wrote:

If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have
several others on this list.

If that counts, I'm day 1 . . .


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-13 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Ditto… I remember teaching myself HyperCard scripting by writing a speaking 
clock. Wonder what happened to that bit of code?

Good that we’re still here though.

Graham

> On 13 Jun 2017, at 08:03, Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking 
> back...
> 
> HyperCard
> Supercard
> Plus
> Oracle Media Objects
> Toolbook
> MetaCard
> Revolution
> Livecode
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> Me too. 
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
 On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have
 several others on this list.
>>> 
>>> If that counts, I'm day 1 . . .
>> 
> 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship

2017-06-13 Thread Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode
Sigh, me too I guess. I now see how long it has been (40 years) thinking back...

HyperCard
Supercard
Plus
Oracle Media Objects
Toolbook
MetaCard
Revolution
Livecode

Jeff

> Me too. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have
>>> several others on this list.
>> 
>> If that counts, I'm day 1 . . .
> 


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-12 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Me too. 

Bob S


> On Jun 9, 2017, at 11:43 , Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have
>> several others on this list.
>> 
> 
> If that counts, I'm day 1 . . .


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:26 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so have
> several others on this list.
>

If that counts, I'm day 1 . . .

At times, I wonder about what would happened if I asked SuperCard for an
upgrade . . . to my version 1.5 disks . . .

And if SuperCard had leaked that the PC version was coming, I wouldn't have
abandoned my project 25 years ago, and would probably be the largest player
in bankruptcy software today . . .

*sigh*


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:13 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as
> Heather. She's my placeholder.


But she didn't jump in about surviving . . .


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

I discovered HC in 1993, and MC and RR/LC simultaneously in 2001;
having experienced a traumatic hiatus with Toolbook!

Richmond.

On 6/9/17 9:26 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so 
have several others on this list.


We won't discuss your calculations. My time warp stack makes those 
moot anyway.


On 6/9/17 12:44 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far 
longer than Heather

if Hypercard is still a location.

Richmond.

On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


And gals.


No, so far no gals.  Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :)


Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as 
Heather. She's my placeholder.


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
If we're counting HC, I've been "there" longer than Kevin. :) And so 
have several others on this list.


We won't discuss your calculations. My time warp stack makes those moot 
anyway.


On 6/9/17 12:44 PM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:
And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far 
longer than Heather

if Hypercard is still a location.

Richmond.

On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


And gals.


No, so far no gals.  Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :)


Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as 
Heather. She's my placeholder.


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
And, according to my calculations, you, Jacque have been "there" far 
longer than Heather

if Hypercard is still a location.

Richmond.

On 6/9/17 8:13 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


And gals.


No, so far no gals.  Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :)


Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as 
Heather. She's my placeholder.


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On June 9, 2017 11:17:13 AM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode" 
 wrote:



On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


And gals.


No, so far no gals.  Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :)


Ah, but you've forgotten Elanor who's been there almost as long as Heather. 
She's my placeholder.


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 6:33 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> And gals.
>

No, so far no gals.  Jacque & company aren't keeping up their end :)

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 06/09/2017 07:48 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

sooo... yeah. Probably involves imbibing strong drink. ;-)


Well. duh... doesn't everything?

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
sooo... yeah. Probably involves imbibing strong drink. ;-)

Bob S


> On Jun 9, 2017, at 05:00 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2017-06-07 20:19, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
>> I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves
>> imbibing strong drink.
> 
> Hehe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
And gals.

Craig



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-06-07 20:19, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves
imbibing strong drink.


Hehe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills

Warmest Regards,

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
You know, I knew as soon as I'd sent that email I'd used the wrong word there. 
The use-list guys are going to jump all over this... 

Nevermind. I confirm I am still alive and so are the other members of the team. 
No zombies or ghosts here.

No

N

N




Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
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> On 9 Jun 2017, at 12:40, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> I thought the same thing!
> 
> Does this mean that 25a Thistle Street Lane South West should be a stop on
> the Edinburgh Ghost Walk?  Or the setting of a new Ian Rankin novel?
> https://www.ianrankin.net/about/
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote
>> OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <
> 
>> use-livecode@.runrev
> 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> 
>>> Heather
>>> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)
>>> 
>>> Heather Laine
>>> Customer Services Manager
>>> LiveCode Ltd
>>> www.livecode.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode <
>>> 
> 
>> use-livecode@.runrev
> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
>>>> 
>>>> His twitter post here>
>>>> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
>>>> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208;
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Andy Piddock
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>>>> 
>>>> TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
>>>> TinyIDE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk
>>>> 
>>>> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour
>>> picker / finder.
>>>> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-09 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
I thought the same thing!

Does this mean that 25a Thistle Street Lane South West should be a stop on
the Edinburgh Ghost Walk?  Or the setting of a new Ian Rankin novel?
https://www.ianrankin.net/about/

Martin


Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote
> OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!
> 
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Heather Laine via use-livecode <

> use-livecode@.runrev

>> wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>> Heather
>> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)
>>
>> Heather Laine
>> Customer Services Manager
>> LiveCode Ltd
>> www.livecode.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode <
>> 

> use-livecode@.runrev

>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
>> >
>> > His twitter post here>
>> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
>> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208;
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > Andy Piddock
>> >
>> >
>> > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>> >
>> > TinyIDE a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
>> > TinyIDE
>> >
>> >
>> > Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk
>> >
>> > PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour
>> picker / finder.
>> > http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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AW: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Congratulations!

>> Heather
>> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

No, turnover is not worrisome; in fact the odd spot of fresh blood
is often a good thing.

I just felt "funny" discovering things like this through other channels.

My plans are modest, but focused on LiveCode 100% . . .

and am amzed that LiveCode has both survived and got stronger
when one compares it with all the also-rans which have gone to the wall.

Richmond.

On 6/7/17 9:20 pm, Tom Glod via use-livecode wrote:

livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for
it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them.   I
am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode
incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the
first in line.  Like Craig said  there is something miraculous about
itI see it.  It was a miracle to my life for sure.

Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome.
All the best everyone

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All.

This just goes to show two things:

1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.

2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population
of
the planet to see what a miracle LC is.

This exacerbates that sense of fragility.

Into the breach! Forward!

Craig



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Thanks Panos for the link.

I'll look a bit harder before putting both feet in!



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
livecode is not going anywhere. not on my watch anyways... my plans for
it are huge, and there is no way I am not following through with them.   I
am immensly grateful for the people devoted to it over at livecode
incand if that ever changes and it needs stewardship ...I'll be the
first in line.  Like Craig said  there is something miraculous about
itI see it.  It was a miracle to my life for sure.

Sometimes people want new adventures.. turnover isn't that worrysome.
All the best everyone

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, dunbarx via use-livecode <
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> All.
>
> This just goes to show two things:
>
> 1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.
>
> 2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
> small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
> HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
> That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population
> of
> the planet to see what a miracle LC is.
>
> This exacerbates that sense of fragility.
>
> Into the breach! Forward!
>
> Craig
>
>
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I'm going to guess that is a Scottish colloquialism which involves imbibing 
strong drink. 

Bob S


> On Jun 7, 2017, at 11:16 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
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> 
> I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at windmills 
> (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)).
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-06-07 19:56, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
references to staff changes.


It was in TWiL - Alex (one of our new employees) wrote his first blog 
post last week.


I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly 
regarded

team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.


They didn't move on in the same month. As Heather said, Ben went part 
time around 2 years ago, and continues to be.


I think there was a slight case of Richmond indirectly tilting at 
windmills (not that I ever do that, oh no, never ;)).


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Andy,

See
https://livecode.github.io/this-week-in-livecode/issue/2017/05/24/this-week-in-livecode-83.html

Best,
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> Re
> "All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a
> secret. Staff move on and are replaced. "
>
> Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
> references to staff changes.
>
> I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded
> team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.
>
> Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Re
"All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
secret. Staff move on and are replaced. "

Where is this blog post?.just gone to the blog page and cannot see any
references to staff changes.

I did not mean to be alarmist or provocative but when two highly regarded
team members move on in the same month it does raise concerns.

Anyway looking forward to news on the new team members.






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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread dunbarx via use-livecode
All.

This just goes to show two things:

1- How connected the community is to LC and to each other.

2- The extent that community worries about its health. After all, LC is a
small company, and that engenders a sense that it is fragile. Many remember
HC, which was lost in the shuffle of corporate (and general) indifference.
That fear lingers through the inexplicable incapability of the population of
the planet to see what a miracle LC is.

This exacerbates that sense of fragility.

Into the breach! Forward!

Craig



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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
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> OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!


Haven't you ever heard of a "toxic bug"?

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
OH NO!  WHAT DOES "SURVIVING" MEAN???!?!?!?!?!

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> Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to
> spread his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us
> part time. You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on.
>
> Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by
> and large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately)
> regular turnover. It's not exactly news.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Heather
> (who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)
>
> Heather Laine
> Customer Services Manager
> LiveCode Ltd
> www.livecode.com
>
>
>
> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
> >
> > His twitter post here>
> > https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
> > <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Hm... lol. Well Ben stayed with us for a good 8 years, and moved on to spread 
his wings a couple of years ago. As Mark said, he still works for us part time. 
You might even have met him at LiveCode events since he moved on.

Staff changes happen! Not perhaps all that often at LiveCode, people by and 
large seem to like it here and stay, but there is a (moderately) regular 
turnover. It's not exactly news. 

Warm Regards,

Heather
(who is now the longest surviving staff member other than Kevin)

Heather Laine
Customer Services Manager
LiveCode Ltd
www.livecode.com



> On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:00, AndyP via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.
> 
> His twitter post here>
> https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
> <https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
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> 
> 
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> 
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> TinyIDE 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Agreed Jacque. And I found myself asking... myself... what business is it of 
mine the internal workings of Livecode? 

Bob S


> On Jun 7, 2017, at 09:39 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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> 
> All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
All the staff changes were discussed in the last blog post. It isn't a 
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On June 7, 2017 11:31:42 AM Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.


As I said above:

"Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a
non-'event'."

In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have
had two staff join us recently).

What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees
up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in
the UK at least ;) ).

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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-06-07 18:00, AndyP via use-livecode wrote:

Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.


As I said above:

"Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a 
non-'event'."


In any case, I'm not sure why it is 'worrying' (especially as we have 
had two staff join us recently).


What would be worrying is if companies started locking their employees 
up in chains and never let them leave! ( It would also be illegal, in 
the UK at least ;) ).


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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Worrying in view that Dr Peter Brett recently left as well.

His twitter post here>
https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208
<https://twitter.com/PeterTBBrett/status/849958594745438208>  








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Re: Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-06-07 15:21, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote:

Interestingly enough this event, and
others, do not seem to be reflected
currently on the LiveCode website.


Ben still works for us part-time - so I'd describe that as a 
non-'event'.


In regards to the other 'events' you refer to - I'll make sure updating 
the team page is on our website todo list.


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Ben Beaumont jumps ship.

2017-06-07 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Interestingly enough this event, and
others, do not seem to be reflected
currently on the LiveCode website.

Richmond.
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