Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Thanks mark

I will check this out.

Martin

> On Oct 23, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Brian Milby's Script Tracker

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Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 10/23/20 6:44 AM, Martin Koob via use-livecode wrote:


I figured out what caused it.   I am using Monte’s lcVCS plugin to keep the 
project  in bitbucket


Try Brian Milby's Script Tracker plugin.

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Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode
Yesterday I had LC hang when using the red dot on the same line as the 
breakpoint command. LC 9.5.1

Peter



> On Oct 23, 2020, at 5:33 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> It was a hardcoded breakpoint in this form.
> 
> If x<0 then breakpoint
> 
> I wonder if inadvertently triggered "red dot" breakpoints when exiting can 
> cause the same hang?
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Martin Koob via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:53 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Martin Koob
> Subject: Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group 
> in Windows 10)
> 
> Hi Ralph
> 
> I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have 
> used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring 
> out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched 
> LiveCode.  That is just part of my work flow now.  Sometimes it does quit 
> with no hang.  Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or 
> close and remove from memory before quitting.  I still don’t get consistent 
> results from this though.
> 
> It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex.  I thought 
> it may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the 
> quitting process.  I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum 
> and see if it still happens.
> 
> Interesting idea about the breakpoint.  Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or 
> hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script?
> 
> The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent.   Sometimes 
> they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first 
> breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the 
> cause, just did workarounds.
> 
> I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around.  Maybe I should 
> just delete all breakpoints and start fresh.
> 
> Thanks for the idea.  Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having 
> with the DataGrid.
> 
> Martin
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Martin,
>> 
>> I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I 
>> was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop 
>> when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a 
>> closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It 
>> was from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only 
>> triggers if all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main 
>> stack. Could that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? 
>> Because that would trigger the breakpoint.
>> 
>> Is this a bug or user error?
>> 
>> Win 10
>> LC 9.6.1
>> 
>> Thanks for pushing me(more like  a poke) to finally solve this annoyance.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Martin Koob via use-livecode
>> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM
>> To: use-livecode list
>> Cc: Martin Koob
>> Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the 
>> group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
>> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
>> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
>> menu item.   
>> 
>> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
>> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
>> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
>> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
>> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
>> hour glass cursor.
>> 
>> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
>> says.
>> 
>>   LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>>   If you close the program, you might lose information.
>>   —>Close the Program
>>   —>Wait for the program to res

Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi everyone.

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I tried them all but no joy.

I figured out what caused it.   I am using Monte’s lcVCS plugin to keep the 
project  in bitbucket and I was trying to work on it on the Mac and Windows by 
making changes on the Mac and then updating the stacks by exporting to lcVCS, 
committing and pushing the changes to bitBucket and then on the Windows Machine 
fetching the changes and pulling them to the repo on my Windows machine and 
then use lcVCS to create stacks from files.   I recently finished a branch and 
was merging it back into my version  branch on the Mac.   When I tried to fetch 
the changes on Windows there were lots of conflicts.   I don’t really 
understand git process really well for merging etc so I kind of hacked away at 
it till I got the two repos back in sync with the origin so in the process I 
must have ended up corrupting some of the scripts in the stack so they would 
not load. The stack would open and run properly which was odd…

So to fix it just zipped up the version on my Mac, Copied it over to the PC and 
opened it there and it worked.   So now I am back in business.

Thanks for for your time in responding.  Your responses got me to look at the 
problem from a few different angles till I could see the light through the 
cracks.

Martin.


> On Oct 23, 2020, at 8:09 AM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Martin,
> i am not sure if the freezes are also caused by this, but what Antivirus 
> Software are you using. A 3rd party or Microsoft Defender?
> If the latter then please try to exclude the Livecode program folder  and its 
> support folders (like preferences) from realtime scanning in MS Defender.
> 
> There were some reports from users that Microsoft Defender slowed down 
> Livecode, especially when using the Script Editor.
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> 
> -
> Matthias Rebbe
> Life Is Too Short For Boring Code
> 
>> Am 23.10.2020 um 02:30 schrieb Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> Another bit of info regarding the length of script where this happens.
>> 
>> I have been going through the project browser trying to open small scripts 
>> then opening those with more and more lines.   I found that a script with 53 
>> lines opens, a script with 62 lines freezes.
>> 
>> anyway.  Down with this for tonight.  Hope someone has some ideas as to what 
>> might be going on and how to solve it.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> Sorry just re-read my previous email and realized it is not clear.
>>> 
>>> I meant to say that  is that I get the same issue where the IDE stops 
>>> responding when I try to edit the main stack script too.  So it is not a 
>>> strictly DataGrid issue.
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
 On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
  wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Just to follow up.  It is not just happening in a DataGrid group script.  
 I just opened a main stack script.  It has almost 600 lines.
 
 Something Odd going on.  I am just new to using LiveCode on Windows as I 
 am now working on an application  for release on Mac and Windows.  However 
 I have edited many of the scripts in this project before and have never 
 seen this.  
 
 Again if anyone has ideas as to what might be happening or how to trouble 
 shoot that would really be appreciated.
 
 Martin
 
> On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Martin Koob  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the 
> group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of 
> the DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select 
> the Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit 
> Script’ menu item.   
> 
> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with 
> LiveCode 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same 
> process the script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact 
> LiveCode becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and 
> the cursor when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode 
> windows  is the hour glass cursor.
> 
> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
> says.
> 
> LiveCode for Windows is not responding
> If you close the program, you might lose information.
> —>Close the Program
> —>Wait for the program to respond.
> 
> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never 
> responds.
> 
> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened 
> the group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and 
> reopen it so it does work in a simple scenario.
> 
> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code 

RE: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
It was a hardcoded breakpoint in this form.

If x<0 then breakpoint

I wonder if inadvertently triggered "red dot" breakpoints when exiting can 
cause the same hang?

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Martin Koob via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:53 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Martin Koob
Subject: Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group 
in Windows 10)

Hi Ralph

I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have 
used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring 
out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched 
LiveCode.  That is just part of my work flow now.  Sometimes it does quit with 
no hang.  Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or close and 
remove from memory before quitting.  I still don’t get consistent results from 
this though.

It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex.  I thought it 
may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the quitting 
process.  I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum and see if 
it still happens.

Interesting idea about the breakpoint.  Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or 
hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script?

The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent.   Sometimes 
they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first 
breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the 
cause, just did workarounds.

I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around.  Maybe I should 
just delete all breakpoints and start fresh.

Thanks for the idea.  Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having with 
the DataGrid.

Martin

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Martin,
> 
> I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I 
> was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop 
> when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a 
> closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It was 
> from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only triggers if 
> all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main stack. Could 
> that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? Because that 
> would trigger the breakpoint.
> 
> Is this a bug or user error?
> 
> Win 10
> LC 9.6.1
> 
> Thanks for pushing me(more like  a poke) to finally solve this annoyance.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Martin Koob via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM
> To: use-livecode list
> Cc: Martin Koob
> Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
> that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
> menu item.   
> 
> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
> hour glass cursor.
> 
> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
> says.
> 
>LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>If you close the program, you might lose information.
>—>Close the Program
>—>Wait for the program to respond.
> 
> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.
> 
> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
> group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so 
> it does work in a simple scenario.
> 
> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code 
> is a contributing factor.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?  
> 
> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
> Group script and rather put

Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Martin,
i am not sure if the freezes are also caused by this, but what Antivirus 
Software are you using. A 3rd party or Microsoft Defender?
If the latter then please try to exclude the Livecode program folder  and its 
support folders (like preferences) from realtime scanning in MS Defender.

There were some reports from users that Microsoft Defender slowed down 
Livecode, especially when using the Script Editor.

Regards,
Matthias


-
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Life Is Too Short For Boring Code

> Am 23.10.2020 um 02:30 schrieb Martin Koob via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Another bit of info regarding the length of script where this happens.
> 
> I have been going through the project browser trying to open small scripts 
> then opening those with more and more lines.   I found that a script with 53 
> lines opens, a script with 62 lines freezes.
> 
> anyway.  Down with this for tonight.  Hope someone has some ideas as to what 
> might be going on and how to solve it.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again,
>> 
>> Sorry just re-read my previous email and realized it is not clear.
>> 
>> I meant to say that  is that I get the same issue where the IDE stops 
>> responding when I try to edit the main stack script too.  So it is not a 
>> strictly DataGrid issue.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Just to follow up.  It is not just happening in a DataGrid group script.  I 
>>> just opened a main stack script.  It has almost 600 lines.
>>> 
>>> Something Odd going on.  I am just new to using LiveCode on Windows as I am 
>>> now working on an application  for release on Mac and Windows.  However I 
>>> have edited many of the scripts in this project before and have never seen 
>>> this.  
>>> 
>>> Again if anyone has ideas as to what might be happening or how to trouble 
>>> shoot that would really be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
 On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Martin Koob  wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the 
 group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of 
 the DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select 
 the Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit 
 Script’ menu item.   
 
 This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with 
 LiveCode 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same 
 process the script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact 
 LiveCode becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and 
 the cursor when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode 
 windows  is the hour glass cursor.
 
 If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
 says.
 
 LiveCode for Windows is not responding
 If you close the program, you might lose information.
 —>Close the Program
 —>Wait for the program to respond.
 
 Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never 
 responds.
 
 I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened 
 the group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen 
 it so it does work in a simple scenario.
 
 In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script. 
  On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer 
 code is a contributing factor.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this?  
 
 It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
 Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 Martin Koob
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10

2020-10-23 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
I put code in the dg script. It works fine. But to be clear, I only have 8 
lines in my script so I’ve never tested the limits. 

mark


> On Oct 22, 2020, at 10:19 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
> that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
> menu item.   
> 
> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
> hour glass cursor.
> 
> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
> says.
> 
>LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>If you close the program, you might lose information.
>—>Close the Program
>—>Wait for the program to respond.
> 
> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.
> 
> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
> group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so 
> it does work in a simple scenario.
> 
> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code 
> is a contributing factor.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?  
> 
> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
> Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Martin Koob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-23 Thread Bernard Devlin via use-livecode
Hi Martin

In the Script Editor try unchecking the various entries under Edit/Options
e.g. variable checking, live errors, etc.

I've recently moved to using LC on OS X and was surprised how snappy the
editor was i.e. I didn't need to switch off most of those things as I did
on Windows 10.

I don't have any advice about Proj Browser, as I almost never used it.

Regards, Bernard

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 1:31 AM Martin Koob via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Another bit of info regarding the length of script where this happens.
>
> I have been going through the project browser trying to open small scripts
> then opening those with more and more lines.   I found that a script with
> 53 lines opens, a script with 62 lines freezes.
>
> anyway.  Down with this for tonight.  Hope someone has some ideas as to
> what might be going on and how to solve it.
>
> Martin
>
>
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Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Another bit of info regarding the length of script where this happens.

I have been going through the project browser trying to open small scripts then 
opening those with more and more lines.   I found that a script with 53 lines 
opens, a script with 62 lines freezes.

anyway.  Down with this for tonight.  Hope someone has some ideas as to what 
might be going on and how to solve it.

Martin


> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> Sorry just re-read my previous email and realized it is not clear.
> 
> I meant to say that  is that I get the same issue where the IDE stops 
> responding when I try to edit the main stack script too.  So it is not a 
> strictly DataGrid issue.
> 
> Martin
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Just to follow up.  It is not just happening in a DataGrid group script.  I 
>> just opened a main stack script.  It has almost 600 lines.
>> 
>> Something Odd going on.  I am just new to using LiveCode on Windows as I am 
>> now working on an application  for release on Mac and Windows.  However I 
>> have edited many of the scripts in this project before and have never seen 
>> this.  
>> 
>> Again if anyone has ideas as to what might be happening or how to trouble 
>> shoot that would really be appreciated.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Martin Koob  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the 
>>> group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
>>> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
>>> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
>>> menu item.   
>>> 
>>> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with 
>>> LiveCode 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same 
>>> process the script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact 
>>> LiveCode becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and 
>>> the cursor when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode 
>>> windows  is the hour glass cursor.
>>> 
>>> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
>>> says.
>>> 
>>>  LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>>>  If you close the program, you might lose information.
>>>  —>Close the Program
>>>  —>Wait for the program to respond.
>>> 
>>> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never 
>>> responds.
>>> 
>>> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened 
>>> the group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen 
>>> it so it does work in a simple scenario.
>>> 
>>> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
>>> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer 
>>> code is a contributing factor.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this?  
>>> 
>>> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
>>> Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Martin Koob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi again,

Sorry just re-read my previous email and realized it is not clear.

I meant to say that  is that I get the same issue where the IDE stops 
responding when I try to edit the main stack script too.  So it is not a 
strictly DataGrid issue.

Martin

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Martin Koob via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Just to follow up.  It is not just happening in a DataGrid group script.  I 
> just opened a main stack script.  It has almost 600 lines.
> 
> Something Odd going on.  I am just new to using LiveCode on Windows as I am 
> now working on an application  for release on Mac and Windows.  However I 
> have edited many of the scripts in this project before and have never seen 
> this.  
> 
> Again if anyone has ideas as to what might be happening or how to trouble 
> shoot that would really be appreciated.
> 
> Martin
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Martin Koob  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the 
>> group that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
>> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
>> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
>> menu item.   
>> 
>> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
>> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
>> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
>> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
>> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
>> hour glass cursor.
>> 
>> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
>> says.
>> 
>>   LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>>   If you close the program, you might lose information.
>>   —>Close the Program
>>   —>Wait for the program to respond.
>> 
>> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never 
>> responds.
>> 
>> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened 
>> the group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen 
>> it so it does work in a simple scenario.
>> 
>> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
>> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer 
>> code is a contributing factor.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this?  
>> 
>> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
>> Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> Martin Koob
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Script Editor freezes in Windows 10 (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi

Just to follow up.  It is not just happening in a DataGrid group script.  I 
just opened a main stack script.  It has almost 600 lines.

Something Odd going on.  I am just new to using LiveCode on Windows as I am now 
working on an application  for release on Mac and Windows.  However I have 
edited many of the scripts in this project before and have never seen this.  

Again if anyone has ideas as to what might be happening or how to trouble shoot 
that would really be appreciated.

Martin

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 5:19 PM, Martin Koob  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
> that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
> menu item.   
> 
> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
> hour glass cursor.
> 
> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
> says.
> 
>LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>If you close the program, you might lose information.
>—>Close the Program
>—>Wait for the program to respond.
> 
> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.
> 
> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
> group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so 
> it does work in a simple scenario.
> 
> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code 
> is a contributing factor.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?  
> 
> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
> Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Martin Koob
> 
> 
> 


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Re: IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi Ralph

I generally experience IDE hang when exiting in all versions of LC 9.x i have 
used so far (using a Mac however). I haven’t had time to delve into figuring 
out a recipe I could report as a bug. I just force quit and relaunched 
LiveCode.  That is just part of my work flow now.  Sometimes it does quit with 
no hang.  Some things I have tried is closing the script editor, or close and 
remove from memory before quitting.  I still don’t get consistent results from 
this though.

It happens with various stacks I work on from simple to complex.  I thought it 
may be an extension I have installed that ties up the IDE during the quitting 
process.  I plan one day to remove all extensions to a bare minimum and see if 
it still happens.

Interesting idea about the breakpoint.  Is it a ‘red dot’ soft breakpoint or 
hard coded ‘breakpoint’ in a line of the script?

The behaviour of the soft breakpoints I have found inconsistent.   Sometimes 
they don’t trigger unless I have the script open for at least the first 
breakpoint I want to trigger. Again I have never really tried to get to the 
cause, just did workarounds.

I probably have way to many breakpoints left sitting around.  Maybe I should 
just delete all breakpoints and start fresh.

Thanks for the idea.  Maybe that will solve the other problem I am having with 
the DataGrid.

Martin

> On Oct 22, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Martin,
> 
> I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I 
> was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop 
> when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a 
> closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It was 
> from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only triggers if 
> all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main stack. Could 
> that stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? Because that 
> would trigger the breakpoint.
> 
> Is this a bug or user error?
> 
> Win 10
> LC 9.6.1
> 
> Thanks for pushing me(more like  a poke) to finally solve this annoyance.
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf 
> Of Martin Koob via use-livecode
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM
> To: use-livecode list
> Cc: Martin Koob
> Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
> that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the 
> DataGrid.   So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the 
> Datagrid group I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ 
> menu item.   
> 
> This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
> 9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
> script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode 
> becomes unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor 
> when hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the 
> hour glass cursor.
> 
> If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that 
> says.
> 
>LiveCode for Windows is not responding
>If you close the program, you might lose information.
>—>Close the Program
>—>Wait for the program to respond.
> 
> Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.
> 
> I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
> group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so 
> it does work in a simple scenario.
> 
> In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  
> On has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code 
> is a contributing factor.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this?  
> 
> It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ 
> Group script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Martin Koob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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IDE Hang When Exiting. (was Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10)

2020-10-22 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Martin,

I don’t have an answer for that but this post perked my interest in a hang I 
was getting. I just found out why the IDE hangs in an apparently tight loop 
when it's closing. This happened only on one card of the stack. It had a 
closeCard handler in the behavior. A "breakpoint" statement triggered. It was 
from early debugging and does not get triggered anymore. It only triggers if 
all is not well. There is reference to a property in the main stack. Could that 
stack already be closed and the property returns as empty? Because that would 
trigger the breakpoint.

Is this a bug or user error?

Win 10
LC 9.6.1

Thanks for pushing me(more like  a poke) to finally solve this annoyance.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

-Original Message-
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Martin Koob via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 5:19 PM
To: use-livecode list
Cc: Martin Koob
Subject: Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10

Hi all

Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the DataGrid. 
  So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the Datagrid group 
I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ menu item.   

This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode becomes 
unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor when 
hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the hour 
glass cursor.

If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that says.

LiveCode for Windows is not responding
If you close the program, you might lose information.
—>Close the Program
—>Wait for the program to respond.

Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.

I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so it 
does work in a simple scenario.

In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  On 
has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code is a 
contributing factor.

Has anyone else experienced this?  

It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ Group 
script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?


Thanks in advance.


Martin Koob




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Can't edit scripts in DataGrid group in Windows 10

2020-10-22 Thread Martin Koob via use-livecode
Hi all

Maybe this is not good practice but I have DataGrids with script in the group 
that contains the DataGrid in addition to the behaviour script of the DataGrid. 
  So to edit the script in the DataGrid group I just select the Datagrid group 
I right click on the DataGrid and select the ‘Edit Script’ menu item.   

This works fine on the mac.I just tried this on Windows 10 with LiveCode 
9.6 and when I try to open the same DataGrid following the same process the 
script editor opens but it does not load the script.  In fact LiveCode becomes 
unresponsive. The script editor dims as if disabled and the cursor when 
hovering over the script editor or any other LiveCode windows  is the hour 
glass cursor.

If I click on the ‘x’ to close the LiveCode project I get the dialog that says.

LiveCode for Windows is not responding
If you close the program, you might lose information.
—>Close the Program
—>Wait for the program to respond.

Eventually I just select ‘Close the program’ since the program never responds.

I created a test stack with just a DataGrid on it and a button and opened the 
group script and was able to add a handler and then save it and reopen it so it 
does work in a simple scenario.

In my application I have two dataGrids that have code in the group script.  On 
has 290 lines the other has about 480 lines.   So it seems the longer code is a 
contributing factor.

Has anyone else experienced this?  

It the problem that you are not supposed to have script in the DataGrid’ Group 
script and rather put it all in the DataGrid's behaviour?


Thanks in advance.


Martin Koob




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