Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Graham Samuel wrote: > Well, I am happy to be wrong, so I repeated exactly what you did, of > course using my own bit of styled text. It didn’t work - partly > because I can only select the text in the field itself in ‘run’ mode, > but I can only see the Inspector in ‘edit’ mode. When I switch between > the two modes, I can’t do your (5), because I can’t select the text in > the pane as you suggest. FWIW, it's not necessary to use the Inspector, or change tool modes. If the field is editable you can use the IDE's Text menu to change attributes in text selections directly in place, as you would with any word processor. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Just saw an improvement in my code that *should* make it happy to work with Unicode characters… local OkayChars = "" function CleanASCII3 DerText if OkayChars = "" then -- construct OkayChars string as needed repeat with K1 = 32 to 126 put numToChar (K1) after OkayChars end repeat end if put "" into DerRezult repeat for each char CC in DerText if CC is in OkayChars then put CC after DerRezult end repeat return DerRezultend CleanASCII3 Again, this code has not been tested, so use with caution. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
While Bob Sneidar's function should do the job of scrubbing weird characters from text, am unsure why he felt the need to construct that massive pCustomList variable. Seems to me that it would be simpler, and perhaps quicker, to do this instead: function cleanASCII2 DerASCII put "" into DerRezult repeat for each char CC in DerASCII put charToNum (CC) into Fred if Fred > 31 and Fred < 127 then put CC after DerRezult -- the full range of ASCII values for printable characters end repeat return DerRezultend cleanASCII2 The above code is not tested in any way. It's clearly not to be trusted with Unicode text, so which might be why Sheidar felt the need to go thru a somewhat more complicated procedure… ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Graham, If you click the lock icon on the property inspector while you’re in edit mode, the PI for that object will remain open when you switch back to run mode. Hope this helps. Devin > On May 19, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > Well, I am happy to be wrong, so I repeated exactly what you did, of course > using my own bit of styled text. It didn’t work - partly because I can only > select the text in the field itself in ‘run’ mode, but I can only see the > Inspector in ‘edit’ mode. When I switch between the two modes, I can’t do > your (5), because I can’t select the text in the pane as you suggest. > > I am sorry to be dumb - I expect you’re right, but it really doesn’t work for > me. > > Graham > > >> On 19 May 2020, at 19:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Graham Samuel wrote: >> >>> To an ordinary LC developer, if you can change the properties of the >>> initial text (to a different size for example) without overtly >>> selecting it, then the same behaviour can be expected from the IDE >>> when trying to change text you’ve pasted in. It may or may not be >>> styled, but the confusing part is that selecting the text in the >>> Object Inspector has no effect... >> >> I just tried this recipe: >> >> 1. Paste styled text into a field >> 2. Choose pointer tool >> 3. Double-click the field to open the Inspector >> 4. In the Inspector, navigate to the Text pane >> 5. In that pane, select text, then type Ctrl-B >> >> RESULT: Both the styled text in the Inspector and the styled text in the >> field being inspected updates the contents to show the portion I'd changed >> to bold. >> >> Is that not working there? >> >> -- >> Richard Gaskin >> Fourth World Systems >> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web >> >> ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Devin Asay Director Office of Digital Humanities Brigham Young University ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Well, I am happy to be wrong, so I repeated exactly what you did, of course using my own bit of styled text. It didn’t work - partly because I can only select the text in the field itself in ‘run’ mode, but I can only see the Inspector in ‘edit’ mode. When I switch between the two modes, I can’t do your (5), because I can’t select the text in the pane as you suggest. I am sorry to be dumb - I expect you’re right, but it really doesn’t work for me. Graham > On 19 May 2020, at 19:53, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Graham Samuel wrote: > > > To an ordinary LC developer, if you can change the properties of the > > initial text (to a different size for example) without overtly > > selecting it, then the same behaviour can be expected from the IDE > > when trying to change text you’ve pasted in. It may or may not be > > styled, but the confusing part is that selecting the text in the > > Object Inspector has no effect... > > I just tried this recipe: > > 1. Paste styled text into a field > 2. Choose pointer tool > 3. Double-click the field to open the Inspector > 4. In the Inspector, navigate to the Text pane > 5. In that pane, select text, then type Ctrl-B > > RESULT: Both the styled text in the Inspector and the styled text in the > field being inspected updates the contents to show the portion I'd changed to > bold. > > Is that not working there? > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World Systems > Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web > > ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
I was trying the same thing in LC 9.6 (dp4) and it works here. It works both when selecting the text in the text pane in the navigator or selecting text in the field itself. Regards Tore Nilsen > 19. mai 2020 kl. 19:53 skrev Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > I just tried this recipe: > > 1. Paste styled text into a field > 2. Choose pointer tool > 3. Double-click the field to open the Inspector > 4. In the Inspector, navigate to the Text pane > 5. In that pane, select text, then type Ctrl-B > > RESULT: Both the styled text in the Inspector and the styled text in the > field being inspected updates the contents to show the portion I'd changed to > bold. > > Is that not working there? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Graham Samuel wrote: > To an ordinary LC developer, if you can change the properties of the > initial text (to a different size for example) without overtly > selecting it, then the same behaviour can be expected from the IDE > when trying to change text you’ve pasted in. It may or may not be > styled, but the confusing part is that selecting the text in the > Object Inspector has no effect... I just tried this recipe: 1. Paste styled text into a field 2. Choose pointer tool 3. Double-click the field to open the Inspector 4. In the Inspector, navigate to the Text pane 5. In that pane, select text, then type Ctrl-B RESULT: Both the styled text in the Inspector and the styled text in the field being inspected updates the contents to show the portion I'd changed to bold. Is that not working there? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Well, Tore, I think this is a rather purist view! To an ordinary LC developer, if you can change the properties of the initial text (to a different size for example) without overtly selecting it, then the same behaviour can be expected from the IDE when trying to change text you’ve pasted in. It may or may not be styled, but the confusing part is that selecting the text in the Object Inspector has no effect, therefore the assumption is that all the text you see should logically be changed when you change a text property. Otherwise what’s the point of these properties being available in the Object Inspector? I wonder what the mother ship will say. Graham > On 19 May 2020, at 14:46, Tore Nilsen via use-livecode > wrote: > > I am not sure this is a bug. When you use the normal paste function you > actually paste in styled text. New text, following the text you pasted in > will inherit the styling of the last character of the text you pasted into > the field. This then would work the same way as if you selected some text in > the field and altered the styling of this selected text. All unselected text > would adhere to the properties set in the Inspector. In my opinion this is > what you would expect from any text editor. If you would like to paste in > some text without the styling you should use «Paste Unformatted» in the IDE. > > Regards > Tore Nilsen > >> 19. mai 2020 kl. 14:37 skrev Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> : >> >> Yep, that was it! I had pasted some text from elsewhere. The text **looks** >> perfectly normal (and the count of characters is the same as in the visual >> representation of them, so none apparently hidden), but in some way it must >> mess up the functioning of the Property Inspector. As Ralph confirms, the >> initial text (in a Label Field, it’s just “Label:”) can be changed via the >> Property Inspector without being specifically selected - in fact you can’t >> select the ‘contents’ text in the Property Inspector display. So IMHO it’s a >> bug, if a minor one. Will report it, but I don’t expect a quick solution. >> Odd, though. >> >> Thanks to Ralph and Richard >> >> Graham >> >>> On 18 May 2020, at 22:59, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Works OK on Mac and PC here LC 9.6 rc1. I created new stack put in a label >>> field. I did not change the default text. Could it be the actual text you >>> put in the field causing the PI problem for you? >>> >>> Ralph DiMola >>> IT Director >>> Evergreen Information Services >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf >>> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode >>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:45 PM >>> To: How to use LiveCode >>> Cc: Graham Samuel >>> Subject: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE >>> >>> I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple that >>> didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property Inspector for the >>> field and changed its text - that worked. Then I attempted to change the >>> font size - that didn’t work. The appearance of the label in the stack >>> itself didn’t change, nor could I change the font, make the text bold etc. >>> I tried this again with a regular field - same result. I started a new >>> stack with just the one field - same result. >>> >>> All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or elsewhere, >>> but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the Property >>> Inspector. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Graham >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
I had to write a function that returns only true ASCII printable characters
because when I performed a drag/drop operation from a searchable PDF, I
discovered that Acrobat puts all kinds of hidden characters in the text that
really messes with LC. It’s a simple function:
FUNCTION cleanASCII pString, pModeList, pCustomList
/*
pModeList is a comma delimited list that may contain the following values:
"lowercase,uppercase,numbers,tabs,newlines,returns,spaces,symbols,custom"
If custom is used, then a third paramaeter containing allowed characters
must be supplied.
*/
IF pModeList is empty THEN
put " 0-9a-zA-Z" into tAllowedChars
END IF
IF pModeList contains dash THEN replace dash with "/" & dash in pModeList
REPEAT for each item pMode in pModeList
put word 1 of pMode into pMode
SWITCH
break
CASE "tabs" is in pMode
put "\t" AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE "newlines" is in pMode
put "\n" BEFORE tAllowedChars
break
CASE "returns" is in pMode
put "\r" BEFORE tAllowedChars -- currently not working
break
CASE "spaces" is in pMode
put " " AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE "numbers" is in pMode
put "0-9" AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE "lowercase" is in pMode
put "a-z" AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE "uppercase" is in pMode
put "A-Z" AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE "symbols" is in pMode
put "!#$%&'()*+,./:;<=>?@[\\_`{|}~^-" AFTER tAllowedChars
break
CASE pMode is "custom"
put pCustomList AFTER tAllowedChars
break
END SWITCH
END REPEAT
put "[" & tAllowedChars & "]" into tMatchText
REPEAT for each character theChar in pString
IF matchtext(theChar, tMatchText) is true THEN
put theChar AFTER cleanString
END IF
END REPEAT
return cleanString
END cleanASCII
Bob S
On May 19, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:
Yep, that was it! I had pasted some text from elsewhere. The text **looks**
perfectly normal (and the count of characters is the same as in the visual
representation of them, so none apparently hidden), but in some way it must
mess up the functioning of the Property Inspector. As Ralph confirms, the
initial text (in a Label Field, it’s just “Label:”) can be changed via the
Property Inspector without being specifically selected - in fact you can’t
select the ‘contents’ text in the Property Inspector display. So IMHO it’s a
bug, if a minor one. Will report it, but I don’t expect a quick solution. Odd,
though.
Thanks to Ralph and Richard
Graham
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Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
I am not sure this is a bug. When you use the normal paste function you actually paste in styled text. New text, following the text you pasted in will inherit the styling of the last character of the text you pasted into the field. This then would work the same way as if you selected some text in the field and altered the styling of this selected text. All unselected text would adhere to the properties set in the Inspector. In my opinion this is what you would expect from any text editor. If you would like to paste in some text without the styling you should use «Paste Unformatted» in the IDE. Regards Tore Nilsen > 19. mai 2020 kl. 14:37 skrev Graham Samuel via use-livecode > : > > Yep, that was it! I had pasted some text from elsewhere. The text **looks** > perfectly normal (and the count of characters is the same as in the visual > representation of them, so none apparently hidden), but in some way it must > mess up the functioning of the Property Inspector. As Ralph confirms, the > initial text (in a Label Field, it’s just “Label:”) can be changed via the > Property Inspector without being specifically selected - in fact you can’t > select the ‘contents’ text in the Property Inspector display. So IMHO it’s a > bug, if a minor one. Will report it, but I don’t expect a quick solution. > Odd, though. > > Thanks to Ralph and Richard > > Graham > >> On 18 May 2020, at 22:59, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Works OK on Mac and PC here LC 9.6 rc1. I created new stack put in a label >> field. I did not change the default text. Could it be the actual text you >> put in the field causing the PI problem for you? >> >> Ralph DiMola >> IT Director >> Evergreen Information Services >> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf >> Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode >> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:45 PM >> To: How to use LiveCode >> Cc: Graham Samuel >> Subject: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE >> >> I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple that >> didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property Inspector for the >> field and changed its text - that worked. Then I attempted to change the >> font size - that didn’t work. The appearance of the label in the stack >> itself didn’t change, nor could I change the font, make the text bold etc. I >> tried this again with a regular field - same result. I started a new stack >> with just the one field - same result. >> >> All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or elsewhere, >> but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the Property >> Inspector. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Graham >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Yep, that was it! I had pasted some text from elsewhere. The text **looks** perfectly normal (and the count of characters is the same as in the visual representation of them, so none apparently hidden), but in some way it must mess up the functioning of the Property Inspector. As Ralph confirms, the initial text (in a Label Field, it’s just “Label:”) can be changed via the Property Inspector without being specifically selected - in fact you can’t select the ‘contents’ text in the Property Inspector display. So IMHO it’s a bug, if a minor one. Will report it, but I don’t expect a quick solution. Odd, though. Thanks to Ralph and Richard Graham > On 18 May 2020, at 22:59, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Works OK on Mac and PC here LC 9.6 rc1. I created new stack put in a label > field. I did not change the default text. Could it be the actual text you put > in the field causing the PI problem for you? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:45 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Graham Samuel > Subject: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE > > I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple that > didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property Inspector for the > field and changed its text - that worked. Then I attempted to change the font > size - that didn’t work. The appearance of the label in the stack itself > didn’t change, nor could I change the font, make the text bold etc. I tried > this again with a regular field - same result. I started a new stack with > just the one field - same result. > > All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or elsewhere, > but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the Property Inspector. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Graham > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Works OK on Mac and PC here LC 9.6 rc1. I created new stack put in a label field. I did not change the default text. Could it be the actual text you put in the field causing the PI problem for you? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 4:45 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Graham Samuel Subject: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple that didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property Inspector for the field and changed its text - that worked. Then I attempted to change the font size - that didn’t work. The appearance of the label in the stack itself didn’t change, nor could I change the font, make the text bold etc. I tried this again with a regular field - same result. I started a new stack with just the one field - same result. All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or elsewhere, but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the Property Inspector. What am I doing wrong? Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
Graham Samuel wrote: > I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple > that didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property > Inspector for the field and changed its text - that worked. Then I > attempted to change the font size - that didn’t work. The appearance > of the label in the stack itself didn’t change, nor could I change the > font, make the text bold etc. I tried this again with a regular field > - same result. I started a new stack with just the one field - same > result. > > All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or > elsewhere, but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the > Property Inspector. > > What am I doing wrong? Text attributes can be set in the field, and the field properties can be overridden by a text run within the field. When changing field properties doesn't change what you see, try selecting the text within the field and changing that. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Changing text properties in a field via the IDE
I’m using LC 9.6.0 rc1 on a Mac. Just now I did something very simple that didn’t work. I created a label field, opened the Property Inspector for the field and changed its text - that worked. Then I attempted to change the font size - that didn’t work. The appearance of the label in the stack itself didn’t change, nor could I change the font, make the text bold etc. I tried this again with a regular field - same result. I started a new stack with just the one field - same result. All these values can be changed by script, in the Message Box or elsewhere, but I can’t make them in the IDE by changing values in the Property Inspector. What am I doing wrong? Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
