Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Sometimes an illusion of an illusion in the illusion. So that's my > allusion. > elusively alluded alliteration . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> RichardG wrote: > > the memory and CPU requirements for working with tens of thousands of objects > can be onerous Not to mention how onerous it would be for the poor end user to work with tens of thousands of objects! Jim Lambert ___

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Thanks for such an informative posting. On 4/3/17 9:58 am, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs (= a big number my mind cannot cope

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
20,000 "LIKES" - Richard! You have expressed so well my feelings that I couldn't find the words for. [rant] The power we have in this tool [Livecode] cannot be overstated. We have to remember it's "just" a tool-kit and there's a lot of stuff that's already pre-assembled. And the rest can be

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
One of the beautiful things about making GUIs in LiveCode is that we generally get a very satisfying and immediate sense of physicality with the controls we're working with: we envision the user interface, drag out controls to match that vision, and we have a one-to-one correspondence between

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The short version: Datagrid GOOD! Bob S > On Apr 2, 2017, at 23:58 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: >> The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have >> 128

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
:-D > On Apr 2, 2017, at 18:23 , Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode > wrote: > > Channeling Sensei again for fun - Does man with million chopsticks line them > all side by side, only one layer deep? He need very big custom table, very > expensive, no more bamboo

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-03 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-04-02 19:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications have 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs (= a big number my mind cannot cope with) and the display in my "CHAR REF" stack is set up to cope with 128 glyphs a go: hence 8703

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richmond say: > The problem, such as it is, is that the Unicode specifications > have 128 * 8703 slots for glyphs ... hence 8703 buttons. Channeling Sensei again for fun - Does man with million chopsticks line them all side by side, only one layer deep? He need very big custom table, very

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Got bored. Heres a version using a datagrid form so you can keep that buttony look. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p8xlv0zoyeb34za/CHAR%20REFDG.livecode?dl=0 On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > A little fancier. > > on mouseup >

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
A little fancier. on mouseup put token 2 of the value of the clickline into MAGIC put baseConvert(MAGIC, 16, 10) into WAL put 0 into KOUNT lock screen for visual effect in rect (the rect of grp "BOXES") repeat for 128 times set the label of

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
Richmond, You could give this a try. Drag a scrolling list field onto the card. Name it ‘UNIlist’. This will eventually replace for group ‘UNIlist', which contains your problematic number of buttons. Put this in the script of the scrolling list field ‘UNIlist' on mouseup put token 2 of

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I'm interested and will have a look at it after supper. Thanks, Richmond. On 4/2/17 8:01 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: Just for fun, I did as others have said and converted the stack to use a field. Since each button used the same exact script (as far as I could tell, too many to go

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 4/2/17 7:01 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: Howdy Richmond, Wise man do many things with few buttons. Yup: only one problem there . . . I prefer zippers! Elite master use single field. Difficult when you have to make sure the bull doesn't get in with the cows. That is

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
Just for fun, I did as others have said and converted the stack to use a field. Since each button used the same exact script (as far as I could tell, too many to go through individually) it was easy to modify it to use the selectedtext rather than the label of the clicked button. TO get the

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Howdy Richmond, Wise man do many things with few buttons. Elite master use single field. That is the true path to LC enlightenment, avoiding all unnecessary sorrows in coding and interface. Having said that, you specifically asked for a way to circumvent the 32k pixel limitation for

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2017-04-02 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Richmond, I think what you are trying to achieve is described in this report: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18704 As suggested, it is probably better to use a DataGrid in this case. Best, Panos -- On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-02 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
One of the ways about knowing what I'm trying to accomplish is to download the stack and have a look at it. Richmond. On 4/2/17 1:59 am, Scott Rossi via use-livecode wrote: Without knowing exactly what you're trying to accomplish, one way is to display only a few rows of buttons beyond what

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2017-04-01 Thread Scott Rossi via use-livecode
Without knowing exactly what you're trying to accomplish, one way is to display only a few rows of buttons beyond what will fit comfortably on a screen, and when scrolling takes place, "recycle" the rows around to the end (or beginning) with new glyphs applied. Assuming all the characters are

Re: Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-01 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I'd create maybe 200 buttons, and change their labels, positions and meanings whenever the vscroll of the menu changes. Something (very vaguely) like on scrollHasChanged put the vScroll of grp "sectionMenu" into temp put temp div 23 into startLine repeat with i = 1 to 200 put

Cheesed off by 32xxx

2017-04-01 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
What a nuisance: There I was, merrily churning through the button titles for my Unicode Reference thing [ http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=26=29069 ] which needed at least 1600 buttons that were 23 pixels deep layered underneath each other. What happens? At the "Magic Number" of