Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Paul Dupuis via use-livecode]

I'm sure this will start some historical flame war, but why use
numberFormat (an archaic leftover from HyperCard) or invest the time to
write your own?

LiveCode has a great formatting function built in - format(baseString [,
valuesList])

put  format("%.2f",1.00+1) into tpoextprice -- does what you would get
with numberFormat as "0.00" but in all circumstances

See http://livecode.com/resources/api/#livecode_script/format
Strike that, the entry on the web site has the formatting of the
baseString options all messed up. Check the Dictionary on your copy of
LiveCode instead.


On 2/15/2018 12:59 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
> On second thot, I think I will just use my own number formatting function. 
>
> Bob S
>
>
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:54 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Klaus and Mike indeed you are correct. I keep making the mistake of 
>> reading the dictionary. ;-P I don't see anything there that refers to only 
>> working with containers, only that the results of the calculation is 
>> affected. 
>>
>> But it's more complex than even that. Given:
>>
>> set the numberFormat to "0.00"
>> put 0 into textprice
>> put textprice
>>
>> displays 0, not 0.00. So a calculation *must* be performed on a variable 
>> *and* the variable put into a container in order for this to take effect. 
>> What I am going to do instead to initialize a numberic variable is to add 0 
>> to a variable. 
>>
>> The second part I am sketchy on tho. I think the script editor variable 
>> watcher is itself a livecode stack with livecode fields, so it ought to 
>> reflect the results of numberFormat, however numberFormat applies only to 
>> the local script it is set in, so how that could be accomplished I do not 
>> know. 
>>
>> I think I will put in a feature request to update the dictionary to reflect 
>> this. 
>>
>> Bob S
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:34 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
 Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 :

 I have this in a script:

 on mouseUp
 set the numberFormat to "0.00"
 put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
 breakpoint
>>> put tpoextprice
>>>
 end mouseUp
 At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2. 
>>> Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
>>> So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?
>>>
 Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken. 

 Bob S
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Klaus
>>>
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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

Internally the type of “0” will be text initially which is probably why the
number format isn’t applied. Any math will convert it to a number. This is
something that should be addressed once we have optional type declaration
for variables.
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:28 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It's not just containers, anything that converts the implicit numeric type
> to text will honor numberformat.
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> On February 15, 2018 11:56:33 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
>  wrote:
>
> > Thanks Klaus and Mike indeed you are correct. I keep making the mistake
> of
> > reading the dictionary. ;-P I don't see anything there that refers to
> only
> > working with containers, only that the results of the calculation is
> affected.
> >
> > But it's more complex than even that. Given:
> >
> > set the numberFormat to "0.00"
> > put 0 into textprice
> > put textprice
> >
> > displays 0, not 0.00. So a calculation *must* be performed on a variable
> > *and* the variable put into a container in order for this to take effect.
> > What I am going to do instead to initialize a numberic variable is to
> add 0
> > to a variable.
> >
> > The second part I am sketchy on tho. I think the script editor variable
> > watcher is itself a livecode stack with livecode fields, so it ought to
> > reflect the results of numberFormat, however numberFormat applies only to
> > the local script it is set in, so how that could be accomplished I do
> not know.
> >
> > I think I will put in a feature request to update the dictionary to
> reflect
> > this.
> >
> > Bob S
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:34 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Bob,
> >>
> >>> Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> >>> :
> >>>
> >>> I have this in a script:
> >>>
> >>> on mouseUp
> >>>  set the numberFormat to "0.00"
> >>>  put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
> >>>  breakpoint
> >>
> >> put tpoextprice
> >>
> >>> end mouseUp
> >>> At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2.
> >>
> >> Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
> >> So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?
> >>
> >>> Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken.
> >>>
> >>> Bob S
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Klaus
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://www.major-k.de
> >> kl...@major-k.de
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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

It's not just containers, anything that converts the implicit numeric type 
to text will honor numberformat.

--
Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On February 15, 2018 11:56:33 AM Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Thanks Klaus and Mike indeed you are correct. I keep making the mistake of 
reading the dictionary. ;-P I don't see anything there that refers to only 
working with containers, only that the results of the calculation is affected.


But it's more complex than even that. Given:

set the numberFormat to "0.00"
put 0 into textprice
put textprice

displays 0, not 0.00. So a calculation *must* be performed on a variable 
*and* the variable put into a container in order for this to take effect. 
What I am going to do instead to initialize a numberic variable is to add 0 
to a variable.


The second part I am sketchy on tho. I think the script editor variable 
watcher is itself a livecode stack with livecode fields, so it ought to 
reflect the results of numberFormat, however numberFormat applies only to 
the local script it is set in, so how that could be accomplished I do not know.


I think I will put in a feature request to update the dictionary to reflect 
this.


Bob S


On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:34 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Hi Bob,

Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
:


I have this in a script:

on mouseUp
 set the numberFormat to "0.00"
 put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
 breakpoint


put tpoextprice


end mouseUp
At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2.


Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?


Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken.

Bob S


Best

Klaus

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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

On second thot, I think I will just use my own number formatting function. 

Bob S


> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:54 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Klaus and Mike indeed you are correct. I keep making the mistake of 
> reading the dictionary. ;-P I don't see anything there that refers to only 
> working with containers, only that the results of the calculation is 
> affected. 
> 
> But it's more complex than even that. Given:
> 
> set the numberFormat to "0.00"
> put 0 into textprice
> put textprice
> 
> displays 0, not 0.00. So a calculation *must* be performed on a variable 
> *and* the variable put into a container in order for this to take effect. 
> What I am going to do instead to initialize a numberic variable is to add 0 
> to a variable. 
> 
> The second part I am sketchy on tho. I think the script editor variable 
> watcher is itself a livecode stack with livecode fields, so it ought to 
> reflect the results of numberFormat, however numberFormat applies only to the 
> local script it is set in, so how that could be accomplished I do not know. 
> 
> I think I will put in a feature request to update the dictionary to reflect 
> this. 
> 
> Bob S
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:34 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Bob,
>> 
>>> Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> I have this in a script:
>>> 
>>> on mouseUp
>>> set the numberFormat to "0.00"
>>> put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
>>> breakpoint
>> 
>> put tpoextprice
>> 
>>> end mouseUp
>>> At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2. 
>> 
>> Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
>> So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?
>> 
>>> Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken. 
>>> 
>>> Bob S
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
>> 
>> --
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>> http://www.major-k.de
>> kl...@major-k.de
>> 
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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Thanks Klaus and Mike indeed you are correct. I keep making the mistake of 
reading the dictionary. ;-P I don't see anything there that refers to only 
working with containers, only that the results of the calculation is affected. 

But it's more complex than even that. Given:

set the numberFormat to "0.00"
put 0 into textprice
put textprice

displays 0, not 0.00. So a calculation *must* be performed on a variable *and* 
the variable put into a container in order for this to take effect. What I am 
going to do instead to initialize a numberic variable is to add 0 to a 
variable. 

The second part I am sketchy on tho. I think the script editor variable watcher 
is itself a livecode stack with livecode fields, so it ought to reflect the 
results of numberFormat, however numberFormat applies only to the local script 
it is set in, so how that could be accomplished I do not know. 

I think I will put in a feature request to update the dictionary to reflect 
this. 

Bob S


> On Feb 15, 2018, at 09:34 , Klaus major-k via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
>> Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
>> :
>> 
>> I have this in a script:
>> 
>> on mouseUp
>>  set the numberFormat to "0.00"
>>  put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
>>  breakpoint
> 
> put tpoextprice
> 
>> end mouseUp
>> At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2. 
> 
> Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
> So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?
> 
>> Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken. 
>> 
>> Bob S
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
> 
> --
> Klaus Major
> http://www.major-k.de
> kl...@major-k.de
> 
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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

If I recall what I read way back,  I think the numberrformat only applies
to containers other than variables.  If you were to put tpoextprice into
field "field" the numberformat should be applied correctly.

I think the reason for this is that numberformat can be used to add
non-number chars ($) but the number in the variable needs to remain a
number. Its only when its dropped somewhere that the changes are applied.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I have this in a script:
>
> on mouseUp
>set the numberFormat to "0.00"
>put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
>breakpoint
> end mouseUp
>
> At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2.
>
> Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken.
>
> Bob S
>
>
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Re: Did numberFormat Break?

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Bob,

> Am 15.02.2018 um 18:20 schrieb Bob Sneidar via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I have this in a script:
> 
> on mouseUp
>   set the numberFormat to "0.00"
>   put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
>   breakpoint

put tpoextprice

> end mouseUp
> At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2. 

Adding this, will put 2.00 into the message box. LC 8.1.9, Mac.
So maybe the debugger does just not display the correct number?

> Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken. 
> 
> Bob S

Best

Klaus

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Did numberFormat Break?

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I have this in a script:

on mouseUp
   set the numberFormat to "0.00"
   put 1.00+1 into tpoextprice
   breakpoint
end mouseUp

At this point tpoextprice is 2. Not mind you, 2.00, just 2. 

Either I am missing something (again) or else numberFormat is broken. 

Bob S


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