Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Richard: > they still offer a business card size with rounded corners - > I'm taking it as a challenge to bring the card content > down to just the essentials. ;) > https://www.avery.com/products/cards/88220 Thanks for that link - good idea! Mini cards look great. I doubt my own hands can manipulate that small size, though. Maybe I'll use printed labels on blank playing cards for creative stage. Then order the final design from a pro printing service. Paul: > I currently work for the company that owns that brand. That's neat! I enjoyed your comments. BTW, encourage 'em to restock some products like #4785! (COVID may have increased the need for both DIY games and Ed, right?) Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
> Why? On a LiveCode list you have to ask why? :) It was more of a rhetorical question / suggestion... Output PDF of 1-Up card pages from LiveCode and then use imposition software or a page layout app, link the layout to the LC PDF file and print, that's the way it's done by printers. And most of these apps have some type of scripting to automate workflows like that. Nowaday some online printing outfits (like Avery) have sites where you can just drag-drop pages into a web page-layout. I'm not sure if any of those have an API that could be hooked into, but that's another idea. > 1. Because we can. It's fun to figure stuff out. Sounds like work to me, because I've done a lot of that for work. I do get a kick out of figuring stuff out. Decades ago I read a short book called The PostScript Language Cookbook and got inspired to create HyperCard Stack (using a bunch of XCMD/XFCNs from Dartmouth, Rindaldi, etc.) that could generate raw postscript.ps files of Font-book specimen pages and download them directly to a LaserPrinter, completely bypassing print driver / print dialog boxes. After learning more about Postscript and a various graphics formats like TIFF, I worked up an almost complete Prepress-Preflight app in HC, but just then a commercial product called FlightCheck came out and so I just abandoned the idea. > 2. Print-and-Play tabletop games. It's quite a burgeoning folk art to > design and print your own game. Doesn't have to be fancy, but sometimes Not my bag but cool. I'm using my fun time I'm trying to Bring The Noise to LC ;-) > And I'm finding it's not that hard. The hardest part is making a few > test runs to work out the metrics between logical pixels and printer > metrics. In my limited examination of PDF output from LC (back in version 7 or 8, i think), it seems that some items, such as text are output as resolution independent vectors graphics while other things are rendered as pixel images at 288 DPI (4 x 72px), which should be high-res enough for most people. A printer should take whatever you send it and just interpolate to it's native resolution (300,1200,2400 DPI) and screening system. But again, most home printers can't do edge-to-edge printing, and will have printable areas / margins that are not centered on the sheet-size, for example the top may have 1/4 inch non-printable area due to the gripper, while the bottom may be only 1/8th inch non-printable area, so you should consider that if you are designing a layout that needs to line up with the other-side when the sheet needs to flipped in that direction. >That was a great size, but they still offer a business card size with rounded corners > https://www.avery.com/products/cards/88220 I'm a big fan of Avery. Used their scored/perf'd/label sheets many times over the years. Full Disclosure: I currently work for the company that owns that brand. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Curry Kenworthy wrote: Richard: > 1. Because we can. It's fun to figure stuff out. Yes, it is! :) > 2. Print-and-Play tabletop games. This special printer paper looks way too fun: https://www.avery.com/products/cards/4785 (Discontinued already? Que lastima! This thread is giving me intense desire for DIY cards) That was a great size, but they still offer a business card size with rounded corners - I'm taking it as a challenge to bring the card content down to just the essentials. ;) https://www.avery.com/products/cards/88220 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
On 03/02/2021 05:33, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Paul McClernan wrote: > I'm sure this could all be worked out as far as how to do the > layout and printing directly from LiveCode... but why? Why? On a LiveCode list you have to ask why? :) For what it's worth, a while back (when I had time and access to a laser cutter) I built a little flap card box (this sort of thing https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0099/2822/products/flipbookit-dove-animation_540x.gif?v=1568704931). Then I had to write code in LC to lay out the frames of a gif so that when printed double-sided on card, they'd be cut out with top half of one frame on one side of a flap, followed by the bottom half of the next frame on the other side. (And also to generate the SVG to cut out all the flaps.) LC is _obviously_ the right choice for this kind of thing! Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Paul: >> ... but why? Richard: > 1. Because we can. It's fun to figure stuff out. Yes, it is! :) > 2. Print-and-Play tabletop games. This special printer paper looks way too fun: https://www.avery.com/products/cards/4785 (Discontinued already? Que lastima! This thread is giving me intense desire for DIY cards) Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Paul McClernan wrote: > I'm sure this could all be worked out as far as how to do the > layout and printing directly from LiveCode... but why? Why? On a LiveCode list you have to ask why? :) Two reasons come to mind, but doubtless there are many more: 1. Because we can. It's fun to figure stuff out. 2. Print-and-Play tabletop games. It's quite a burgeoning folk art to design and print your own game. Doesn't have to be fancy, but sometimes it helps to print double-sided. And I'm finding it's not that hard. The hardest part is making a few test runs to work out the metrics between logical pixels and printer metrics. But once you get that worked out the world is your oyster. You can make a game design tool that lets you lay out cards while also keeping an inventory of parts, and later toss in some probability modeling to balance the game play, and then add PDF generation for sharing with others, and then go back and make a copy of the last stack file to take it further with the next one, adding image handling at double-size to reduce down for a crisp print, and then of course you need a notebook to keep the scraps of your ideas in, and then you need a contact manager to keep track of which play testers you sent it to and what they're feedback was, and then you need to put that feedback into an issue tracker, and then In short, because we can. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Paul: > I'm sure this could all be worked out as far as > how to do the layout and printing directly from LiveCode... but why? Good question! Might be a good reason, but not much point in guessing. The bigger question is: what was the true original problem? Brian: > The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligning the two. Fun exercise - in both respects! Hope it printed well. Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
I've worked in the printing industry for 30+ years now. What you're
talking about is called page impositions, and it sounds like you're
doing a work-and-tumble" ("the cards are now face down"), you could
also do a work-and-turn instead (flip the pile on the "landscape"
side, instead of portrait side). Your printer probably has a PPD
(PostScript Printer Description), or something similar that tells it
the maximum printable area for the printer, which is probably not
going to be the same on all sides because of things like the "gripper"
that pulls the sheet through the printer. Even if all things are
equal, if a sheet is pulled through on a slight angle or not perfectly
centered it's not going to align well, so make sure that your design
allows for some cushion to be a little off (as much as about 1/16th
Inch). Things like these can mess you up if you don't take them into
account when you're trying to line up images on both sides of the
sheet (I'm guessing you're planning to cut them down into smaller
card-size pieces?). I'm sure this could all be worked out as far as
how to do the layout and printing directly from LiveCode... but why? I
mean this is a job for page layout and imposition software!
...Although, I have thought about doing a calendar-maker app that can
print a stack of paper that can be saddle-stitched/stapled into an
actual hanging calendar (that's a bit more complicated imposition
layout), Hope any of that helps, good luck.
Paul
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 12:37 PM Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
wrote:
>
>
> Brian:
> > I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back
>
> This post has become a master puzzle of its own!
> Enough detail to elicit solutions, yet still open-ended.
> Each answer makes its own assumptions, and solves a different problem.
> But I like it. So OK, I'll join. Here goes
>
> My own assumptions derive from Keep It Simple (KISS) code philosophy.
> So I'm not going to read more into the problem than necessary.
> I tend to prefer the simplest and most universal answer.
> Also with the fewest dependencies.
>
> > The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3
> > Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now
> > face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1.
>
> I'm not going to make ANY assumptions about print drivers solving it.
> (Unless first tested in LC, on target platforms, with target printers.)
>
> Bob and Jacque might be right. These days, drivers usually auto-fit.
> But often LC doesn't fit assumptions! Test first; don't build on theory.
>
> The way I read it, so far this is already solved by the 321 reversal.
> Brian already has his images in the proper order, front and back.
> And that approach should be very universal; no dependencies.
> I would expect it to work for any printer, or PDF, any platform.
>
> There was no mention of booklets or alternating margins, so I'm not
> adding that to the problem. Choosing a simple interpretation.
>
> > The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligning the two.
>
> I see this as just lining up the front and back images precisely so that
> the cards can be cut out. Right now, one side is too far left, or down?
>
> So my suggestion is:
>
> 1. Make sure your images are PRECISELY spaced in their arrangement.
> (Use code if necessary.)
>
> 2. Group the images.
> (Or whatever type of controls you are using for the playing cards.)
>
> 3. Set loc of group to loc of the LC card.
>
> (And LC card widths are usually divible by 2, so center might be a pixel
> different front and back, if you're using the same group of images.
> Depending on image design and driver auto-fit, usually that's moot.
> But if it's a problem, easy to solve - several good options.)
>
> Did I guess right about the nature of the problem? :)
> Nice topic!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Curry Kenworthy
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Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Brian: > I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back This post has become a master puzzle of its own! Enough detail to elicit solutions, yet still open-ended. Each answer makes its own assumptions, and solves a different problem. But I like it. So OK, I'll join. Here goes My own assumptions derive from Keep It Simple (KISS) code philosophy. So I'm not going to read more into the problem than necessary. I tend to prefer the simplest and most universal answer. Also with the fewest dependencies. > The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3 > Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now > face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. I'm not going to make ANY assumptions about print drivers solving it. (Unless first tested in LC, on target platforms, with target printers.) Bob and Jacque might be right. These days, drivers usually auto-fit. But often LC doesn't fit assumptions! Test first; don't build on theory. The way I read it, so far this is already solved by the 321 reversal. Brian already has his images in the proper order, front and back. And that approach should be very universal; no dependencies. I would expect it to work for any printer, or PDF, any platform. There was no mention of booklets or alternating margins, so I'm not adding that to the problem. Choosing a simple interpretation. > The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligning the two. I see this as just lining up the front and back images precisely so that the cards can be cut out. Right now, one side is too far left, or down? So my suggestion is: 1. Make sure your images are PRECISELY spaced in their arrangement. (Use code if necessary.) 2. Group the images. (Or whatever type of controls you are using for the playing cards.) 3. Set loc of group to loc of the LC card. (And LC card widths are usually divible by 2, so center might be a pixel different front and back, if you're using the same group of images. Depending on image design and driver auto-fit, usually that's moot. But if it's a problem, easy to solve - several good options.) Did I guess right about the nature of the problem? :) Nice topic! Best wishes, Curry Kenworthy Custom Software Development "Better Methods, Better Results" LiveCode Training and Consulting http://livecodeconsulting.com/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
On 1/29/2021 11:16 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: As an IT technician working for a copier sales and service company, I always discourage page imposition in the document itself. Most print drivers have a means of producing booklets and handle the imposition for you. If you are indeed producing booklets, I assume they need to be center stapled as well. Adobe has it’s own means of imposing pages for a booklet. Typically I advise having Reader impose the pages, then everything else can be handled in the actual print driver properties. That of course is only for Adobe products. Bob S Yea, PDFs are not double sided. You can print a PDF to any printer that supports double-sided printing and whatever original applications (MS-Word, etc.) you used to create the PDF can be formatted for double-sided, book-style printing by having alternating even and odd margins and so on, but PDFs themselves are not double sided. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
As an IT technician working for a copier sales and service company, I always discourage page imposition in the document itself. Most print drivers have a means of producing booklets and handle the imposition for you. If you are indeed producing booklets, I assume they need to be center stapled as well. Adobe has it’s own means of imposing pages for a booklet. Typically I advise having Reader impose the pages, then everything else can be handled in the actual print driver properties. That of course is only for Adobe products. Bob S > On Jan 29, 2021, at 1:38 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > I’m thinking (guessing) that he’s into the more general problem that you get > when you are trying to print say a booklet with multiple pages of the book > per printed sheet. You do have to print double-sided (and your printer may > help you with that) but the key is lay it out so that page 2 of the booklet > is at the back of page 1 etc. If for example you have an 8 page leaflet > printed four up, the first - verso - physical page could be laid out like > > 1 3 > 5 7 > > and the other side of the paper - recto - would be laid out > > 4 2 > 8 6 > > People who print books etc are having to do this all the time, so it’s > reasonable to assume that the problem has been encapsulated in a procedure by > now. I won’t start with the links, since I don’t really know if this is the > problem Brian is trying to solve. > > Graham > >> On 29 Jan 2021, at 06:21, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Right after I sent the message below, I think I understand what you meant. >> You want to print double-sided pages of all the cards in a stack. Is that >> right? On a regular printer you don't have to do anything special; if the >> printer driver supports double-sided printing then it just works. >> >> For PDFs, I'd have to check. What OS are you on? >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> On January 28, 2021 11:59:01 PM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" >> wrote: >> >>> I'm confused. Are you writing a card game with decks of cards? Or do you >>> mean the cards in a lC stack? What is "flipping the page"? >>> >>> -- >>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >>> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >>> On January 28, 2021 11:15:51 PM "Brian K. Duck via use-livecode" >>> wrote: >>> I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3 Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. Any existing solutions or discussions? Thanks for your time, Brian Duck Bduck at m@c dot com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
I may be missing something, but a document itself is not double sided. I think you may be saying that you want to automate the process of printing and force the output to be double sided. I do not think that is possible, although I can see how that would be useful to push print properties before a print job. Bob S > On Jan 28, 2021, at 10:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Right after I sent the message below, I think I understand what you meant. > You want to print double-sided pages of all the cards in a stack. Is that > right? On a regular printer you don't have to do anything special; if the > printer driver supports double-sided printing then it just works. > > For PDFs, I'd have to check. What OS are you on? > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On January 28, 2021 11:59:01 PM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" > wrote: > >> I'm confused. Are you writing a card game with decks of cards? Or do you >> mean the cards in a lC stack? What is "flipping the page"? >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> On January 28, 2021 11:15:51 PM "Brian K. Duck via use-livecode" >> wrote: >> >>> I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back >>> >>> The front page is always easy. >>> Cards print left to right: 1-3 >>> >>> Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in >>> order but reversed: 3,2, 1. >>> >>> The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. >>> >>> Any existing solutions or discussions? >>> >>> Thanks for your time, >>> Brian Duck >>> Bduck at m@c dot com >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
I’m thinking (guessing) that he’s into the more general problem that you get when you are trying to print say a booklet with multiple pages of the book per printed sheet. You do have to print double-sided (and your printer may help you with that) but the key is lay it out so that page 2 of the booklet is at the back of page 1 etc. If for example you have an 8 page leaflet printed four up, the first - verso - physical page could be laid out like 1 3 5 7 and the other side of the paper - recto - would be laid out 4 2 8 6 People who print books etc are having to do this all the time, so it’s reasonable to assume that the problem has been encapsulated in a procedure by now. I won’t start with the links, since I don’t really know if this is the problem Brian is trying to solve. Graham > On 29 Jan 2021, at 06:21, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Right after I sent the message below, I think I understand what you meant. > You want to print double-sided pages of all the cards in a stack. Is that > right? On a regular printer you don't have to do anything special; if the > printer driver supports double-sided printing then it just works. > > For PDFs, I'd have to check. What OS are you on? > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > On January 28, 2021 11:59:01 PM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" > wrote: > >> I'm confused. Are you writing a card game with decks of cards? Or do you >> mean the cards in a lC stack? What is "flipping the page"? >> >> -- >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com >> On January 28, 2021 11:15:51 PM "Brian K. Duck via use-livecode" >> wrote: >> >>> I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back >>> >>> The front page is always easy. >>> Cards print left to right: 1-3 >>> >>> Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in >>> order but reversed: 3,2, 1. >>> >>> The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. >>> >>> Any existing solutions or discussions? >>> >>> Thanks for your time, >>> Brian Duck >>> Bduck at m@c dot com >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Right after I sent the message below, I think I understand what you meant. You want to print double-sided pages of all the cards in a stack. Is that right? On a regular printer you don't have to do anything special; if the printer driver supports double-sided printing then it just works. For PDFs, I'd have to check. What OS are you on? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 28, 2021 11:59:01 PM "J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" wrote: I'm confused. Are you writing a card game with decks of cards? Or do you mean the cards in a lC stack? What is "flipping the page"? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 28, 2021 11:15:51 PM "Brian K. Duck via use-livecode" wrote: I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3 Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. Any existing solutions or discussions? Thanks for your time, Brian Duck Bduck at m@c dot com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
Brian K. Duck wrote: > I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back Are you making components for a tabletop game? Is it one of your own design? I've begun designing games here myself as something to do that takes me away from the computer now and then. Modern tabletop games are fascinating systems; sometimes intricate like software, but laid bare in cardboard. > The front page is always easy. > Cards print left to right: 1-3 > > Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, > in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. > > The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. > > Any existing solutions or discussions? I'm not sure I'm imagining this accurately. Do you have a sketch or a mockup with numbered boxes you could point me to to see what you're output is like? And are you printing multiple individual cards into a page, or have one page-sized card with multiple card images? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Double sided PDF Problem
I'm confused. Are you writing a card game with decks of cards? Or do you mean the cards in a lC stack? What is "flipping the page"? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 28, 2021 11:15:51 PM "Brian K. Duck via use-livecode" wrote: I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3 Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. Any existing solutions or discussions? Thanks for your time, Brian Duck Bduck at m@c dot com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Double sided PDF Problem
I’d like to print decks of cards, front and back The front page is always easy. Cards print left to right: 1-3 Flipping the pages, in portrait layout, the cards are now face down, in order but reversed: 3,2, 1. The problem is, printing 3 wide by 4 tall, aligining the two. Any existing solutions or discussions? Thanks for your time, Brian Duck Bduck at m@c dot com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
