Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Last I checked you have to pay a licensing fee for every copy of an app you distribute, even if it is internal. At least for Filemaker itself. Not sure about filemaker for livecode, whatever that is. Bob S > On Apr 15, 2017, at 16:48 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode >

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 04/15/2017 03:39 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> Here's a start: >> https://filemaker.livecode.com/ >> > > Hmmm... I'd forgotten about that. > Any idea what the licensing is like? Nada. The pricing is shown (seems to be per # users, but not sure if

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-15 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 04/15/2017 03:39 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Here's a start: https://filemaker.livecode.com/ Hmmm... I'd forgotten about that. Any idea what the licensing is like? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > I feel that livecode needs a suite of adaptable commercial software, > so that people become aware of LC through using that software, in > much the same way people became aware of VBA through using MS Word. Here's a start: https://filemaker.livecode.com/ -- Richard

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Bob: > As a result, we have no business talking about how much they > should charge for licensing. I am up for renewal on the Indy > license. I am not well to do. I am balking at the price right > now. Still, I could use the non-comm version, but then I feel > like I am not contributing, so I am

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 14 Apr 2017, at 13:49, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: The $500,000 limit on INDY is on an honour system anyway - LC can't tell whether I made a million last week or not. An interesting point. Personally, I prefer positive incentives for upgrading. Making someome think even for a

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 4/14/17 6:13 pm, Mike Bonner via use-livecode wrote: I too am not well off, but in order to "help within my means" I am paying for membership. Its not much, but far better than 0. The only thing I want to find out now is where to get nightly builds from. (a perk of membership, yet no info

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Mike Bonner via use-livecode
I too am not well off, but in order to "help within my means" I am paying for membership. Its not much, but far better than 0. The only thing I want to find out now is where to get nightly builds from. (a perk of membership, yet no info that I can locate on how to actually find them) On Fri,

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
On Apr 14, 2017, at 05:49 , Lagi Pittas via use-livecode > wrote: The Differentiation of INDY with Business can stay should be SQLITE for INDY or at least for any future Mobile only versions. The price hike probably wouldn't

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
+1 On 4/14/17 11:51 am, Kevin Miller via use-livecode wrote: Of course we listen. We read what comes in here and on many other venues. We just don¹t always agree or have time to respond on every point. As far as the marketing goes, as with all these things we will test different approaches over

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
HI I'm presuming (presumptuous moi?) that my bit about the company not listening elicited what I wanted - somebody from LC to pipe in - the fact that was Kevin was a bonus. So let me say here and now I LOVE LC and the more I use LC the more I like it BUT.. I will be honest, if I found the site

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Kevin: > Of course we listen. We read what comes in here and on many > other venues. Wow, that post was the perfect confirmation of my thoughts - I knew for certain that LiveCode was listening as I said, that always has been the case in my experience, and I had a feeling you were too! I've

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I feel that livecode needs a suite of adaptable commercial software, so that people become aware of LC through using that software, in much the same way people became aware of VBA through using MS Word. They need SOME way to get email addresses from prospective customers. I do agree the direct

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Kevin Miller via use-livecode
Of course we listen. We read what comes in here and on many other venues. We just don¹t always agree or have time to respond on every point. As far as the marketing goes, as with all these things we will test different approaches over time. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richard: > How they handle email address harvesting at the .com site for > the proprietary edition is, literally, their business. My interest is primarily for the .com site, and I'm comfortable sharing my opinion. Of course they have every right to their own decision too and I have the

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Richard, The company reads all this babble and doesn't bother to respond so that we could all partake of their wisdom. Regards Lagi On 13 April 2017 at 23:17, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > > On 4/13/17 7:44 pm, Curry Kenworthy via

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi, Over the years I found that when there was a trial version of software , whether it was 10 days or 30 days , it didn't make any difference because except for the first day of download life/work would get in the way and by the time I had time to test the software the 30 days were up. XOJO

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: > On 4/13/17 7:44 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: ... >> to have no download links at all on the site. Have you seen the LC >> site lately? I could find no download links at all. None. There's >> the signup but it's a pretty roundabout process. > > I raised it,

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 4/13/17 7:44 pm, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: > 'Confusion' being an understatement, it would have swiftly > caused shock and horror :) > Dave Yep. :) But there are good reasons for comparison. Swift was making an outrageous joke to draw attention to other actual proposals for

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
> 'Confusion' being an understatement, it would have swiftly > caused shock and horror :) > Dave Yep. :) But there are good reasons for comparison. Swift was making an outrageous joke to draw attention to other actual proposals for the problems of his day. Right at the moment there may have

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
"swiftly" Dunno: tossed a baby on the barbeque just last weekend. Richmond. On 4/13/17 11:09 am, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: On 13/04/2017 02:49, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: (I was going to joke around a bit for those who are familiar with the original "Modest

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
‘Confusion' being an understatement, it would have swiftly caused shock and horror :) Dave >> (I was going to joke around a bit for those who are familiar with the >> original "Modest Proposal" in literature, but I'm not sure if that >> work is still popular these days so I decided not to.)

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-13 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 13/04/2017 02:49, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote: (I was going to joke around a bit for those who are familiar with the original "Modest Proposal" in literature, but I'm not sure if that work is still popular these days so I decided not to.) Just as well you didn't, that would

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-12 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Charles Szasz: > Curry, > What is the link to your website store? Howdy, Thanks for asking! My addons are now residing at: http://livecodeaddons.com/ And each product has links to the LiveCode store or the eSellerate store, which is here if you need the quickest link:

Re: Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-12 Thread Charles Szasz via use-livecode
Curry, What is the link to your website store? The link I have currently have is out dated. Thanks for your time! Sent from my iPad ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Downloads - Immodest Proposal

2017-04-12 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Hi All, I noticed that on livecode.com the front page has no download link. Anywhere. It would be great if interested people who happen upon the web site could instantly download LiveCode with a prominent button. I see a trial signup, but it really takes some persistence to go through the