Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Mike Kerner]

Right.  If you poke around in the IDE for the documentation, you will see
that there is a stack that has a tab control for the API or the user guide,
and within that control is the browser widget.  The documentation is stored
in an sqlite database, and the code to do the rendering is in a script-only
stack, complete with a css, etc.  Then bootstrap is used to do the actual
rendering.  Bootstrap splits the screen into seven equal columns, which is
why when you resize the stack, it seems to resize lumpily.  All of the
work:  the searching, the TOC, etc. is done using bootstrap.  What looks
like three or four separate widgets/controls in the API is really all done
with bootstrap.  Reading it isn't hard once you understand a little bit
about bootstrap, but fixing it looks like a bear to me.  I don't use the
framework for anything, so if someone who was familiar with bootstrap
looked at it, they might not have any problem making it better.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Ali Lloyd  wrote:

> Yes, in a browser widget.
>
> Here's a fix for a bunch of references that were somehow mangled like that
> one:
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/4800/files
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:16 PM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami <
> bra...@hindu.org>
> wrote:
>
> > You mean it is rendered inside the LC IDE using bootstrap too?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/24/16, 5:34 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner" <
> > use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com on behalf of
> > mikeker...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem, now, is
> > that it is being rendered using the 'bootstrap' javascript framework,
> > so
> > the only way to really work on it is to either learn the ins and outs
> > of
> > the framework or to start over.
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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

You mean it is rendered inside the LC IDE using bootstrap too?

 

On 10/24/16, 5:34 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner" 
 
wrote:

The problem, now, is
that it is being rendered using the 'bootstrap' javascript framework, so
the only way to really work on it is to either learn the ins and outs of
the framework or to start over.

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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[J. Landman Gay]

For now I just open the LC 7 dictionary when these errors occur. If I had 
more time I'd help Devin fix them but I'm snowed under. The documentation 
is one of the easiest entries into the community OSS effort.



On October 24, 2016 10:06:06 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
 wrote:


dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them in 
our editing world: missing words/phrases


can someone please fill in the missing parts?


Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Peter Haworth]

Not surer whether it applies to preopencontrol but I came across a message
path anomaly with open control a while back.  See QCC report 14091 (still
open)

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:05 AM Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
wrote:

> Just discovered "preopencontrol"
>
> wow! I wish I had discovered this years ago.
>
> dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them in
> our editing world: missing words/phrases
>
> can someone please fill in the missing parts? They are mission critical
>
> --
> Sent to a group when you go to the
> card that contains it and to a [? ] when going
> from a card which it is not placed on to one where it is.
> --
> BR: OK , Obviously the missing word there is "group"
>
> but not so obvious here:
>
> 
> For groups with their [??]  set to true, the preOpenControl message is
> sent immediately after the [?]
> is sent to the card being opened. For non-background
> groups, it is sent after the  [??entire phrase missing here??]]
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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Ali Lloyd]

Reading the source document will tell you what's missing:

https://github.com/livecode/livecode/blob/develop/docs/dictionary/message/preOpenControl.lcdoc

There are quite a few bad references of the form 
that should be  . I will try and write a little
script at some point to clean all of those up.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 4:34 PM Mike Kerner 
wrote:

> I was looking at the dictionary, about a month ago.  The problem, now, is
> that it is being rendered using the 'bootstrap' javascript framework, so
> the only way to really work on it is to either learn the ins and outs of
> the framework or to start over.  The good news is that LC updated to the
> latest version of the framework in 8.1.1, but if I had my way we'd scrap it
> and go 100% LC, just because more folks could work on it, then.  It just
> looks like a lot of work.  See bug 18278.
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Keith Martin  wrote:
>
> > On 24 Oct 2016, at 16:05, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
> >
> > dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them in
> >> our editing world: missing words/phrases
> >>
> >> can someone please fill in the missing parts? They are mission critical
> >>
> >
> > The Dictionary really needs attention, both on the content and the UX
> > front. It's a shame as it lets LiveCode down. :-/
> >
> > k
> >
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> > Technical Editor, MacUser magazine (1997-2015)
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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Mike Kerner]

I was looking at the dictionary, about a month ago.  The problem, now, is
that it is being rendered using the 'bootstrap' javascript framework, so
the only way to really work on it is to either learn the ins and outs of
the framework or to start over.  The good news is that LC updated to the
latest version of the framework in 8.1.1, but if I had my way we'd scrap it
and go 100% LC, just because more folks could work on it, then.  It just
looks like a lot of work.  See bug 18278.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Keith Martin  wrote:

> On 24 Oct 2016, at 16:05, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:
>
> dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them in
>> our editing world: missing words/phrases
>>
>> can someone please fill in the missing parts? They are mission critical
>>
>
> The Dictionary really needs attention, both on the content and the UX
> front. It's a shame as it lets LiveCode down. :-/
>
> k
>
>
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> Technical Editor, MacUser magazine (1997-2015)
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Re: Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Keith Martin]

On 24 Oct 2016, at 16:05, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote:

dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them 
in our editing world: missing words/phrases


can someone please fill in the missing parts? They are mission 
critical


The Dictionary really needs attention, both on the content and the UX 
front. It's a shame as it lets LiveCode down. :-/


k


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Eureka Moment: preopencontrol

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

Just discovered "preopencontrol"

wow! I wish I had discovered this years ago.

dictionary needs help.. there are complete "outs" as we refer to them in our 
editing world: missing words/phrases

can someone please fill in the missing parts? They are mission critical

--
Sent to a group when you go to the card 
that contains it and to a [? ] when going from a card which it is not 
placed on to one where it is.
--
BR: OK , Obviously the missing word there is "group"

but not so obvious here:


For groups with their [??]  set to true, the preOpenControl message is sent 
immediately after the [?]
is sent to the card being opened. For non-background 
groups, it is sent after the  [??entire phrase missing here??]]
---


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