[OT] Re: Forum Software LC?

2023-09-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dan Brown wrote: > A lot of corporations are indeed making a ton of money off > the back of free labour and free software. Thanks Stallman   Public goods benefit the public. I trust that those who choose to volunteer to contribute to public goods understand that will include businesses as well

[OT] Re: Forum Software LC?

2023-09-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Richard wrote: >> That said, my circle of friends include a good many who still use IRC >> daily... > > You seem like a World Of Warcraft guy to me.   Worse: Mage Knight :)   --   Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems   ___

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2023-09-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
You seem like a World Of Warcraft guy to me. Bob S > On Sep 28, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Keith Martin wrote: > > > To me, Discord looks like a refugee from a moderately poorly > > designed BBS from 30 years ago. I use it (it's the student > > comms

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2023-09-28 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Thanks, Richard. After I looked into discord privacy policies, I realized that my audience would not even consider it. I decided to make a simple site using bbpress with wordpress and try to use only free or very low cost plug-ins. Most of my programming time in the last year was building a

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2023-09-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Keith Martin wrote: > To me, Discord looks like a refugee from a moderately poorly > designed BBS from 30 years ago. I use it (it's the student > comms platform of choice for a course I teach on) and it does > work well in the sense of being very functional, but it offends > me on multiple

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2023-09-28 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
> On 23 Sep 2023, at 15:32, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Discord looks really interesting. To me, Discord looks like a refugee from a moderately poorly designed BBS from 30 years ago. I use it (it's the student comms platform of choice for a course I teach on) and it does

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2023-09-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > Discord looks really interesting. I'm thinking of trying it out. > One thing I wonder about is user privacy. I know there are private > channels, but does the entity supporting discord have access to > user data, emails, names, etc? > > That will be the first question

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2023-09-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
One more and then I will stop hijacking this thread. BTW these are jokes told in Russia by Russians. "In Russia we have freedom of speech. In America they have freedom *after* speech." -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On

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2023-09-26 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
No “but” there. That was precisely my point. :-) Bob S On Sep 25, 2023, at 4:26 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: bob belabored, The Russians had a great saying: There’s no such thing as a free lunch. True. But there *is* a lunch that someone else pays for . . .

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2023-09-25 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
bob belabored, The Russians had a great saying: There’s no such thing as a free lunch. True. But there *is* a lunch that someone else pays for . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

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2023-09-25 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hah hah. Yes, but with Capitalism, we get to vote for our exploiters. :-) Bob S > On Sep 24, 2023, at 4:03 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > The Russians also have another: > > Q: What is the difference between capitalism and communism? > A: Capitalism is one man exploiting

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2023-09-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
The Russians also have another: Q: What is the difference between capitalism and communism? A: Capitalism is one man exploiting another. Communism is exactly the opposite. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On September

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2023-09-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The Russians had a great saying: There’s no such thing as a free lunch. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 22, 2023, at 17:09, doc hawk via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob blipped, > > Well, if I go to my bartender and ask for a free beer, I might get one, > > > When I bought my last bicycle

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2023-09-23 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Bill, If you are running your own server on your computer, I don’t believe they would have access to that at all. They claim it’s both safe and that they are transparent on how it all works. It is open-source software so you should be able to see for yourself. Rick > On Sep 23, 2023, at

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2023-09-23 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Discord looks really interesting. I'm thinking of trying it out. One thing I wonder about is user privacy. I know there are private channels, but does the entity supporting discord have access to user data, emails, names, etc? That will be the first question I'm asked. Best, Bill William A.

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2023-09-22 Thread Dan Brown via use-livecode
A lot of corporations are indeed making a ton of money off the back of free labour and free software. Thanks Stallman On Thu, 21 Sept 2023, 23:36 Richard Gaskin via use-livecode, < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Bob Sneidar wrote: > > Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> > >> Bob Sneidar wrote: >

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2023-09-22 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
Bob blipped, Well, if I go to my bartender and ask for a free beer, I might get one, When I bought my last bicycle helmet (they’re single use, and the old one had a massive dent at the hairline. I’d never been to a trauma unit before . . .), there was a little sign on the counter that read,

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2023-09-21 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Bob Sneidar wrote: >>> Erm… neither of those are free. :-) >> >> Please explain. >> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md >> https://discord.com/blog/starting-your-first-discord-server > > > Well, if I go to my

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2023-09-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well, if I go to my bartender and ask for a free beer, I might get one, but then the bartender or the owner has to pay for it. As for freedom, everyone I think knows that our freedoms are purchased at a precious price. Bob S On Sep 21, 2023, at 1:59 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

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2023-09-21 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Erm… neither of those are free. :-)   Please explain.   https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md https://discord.com/blog/starting-your-first-discord-server   -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems  

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2023-09-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Erm… neither of those are free. :-) Bob S It's free as in both freedom and beer. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

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2023-09-21 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Thanks for the clarification on this. Rick > On Sep 20, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > It's free as in both freedom and beer. > > From the COPYRIGHT.md file in the archive I linked to above: > >This program is free software; you can

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2023-09-20 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Richard, Thanks so much for the link to the installation instructions for discourse. I've been thinking about installing a forum. If I do the installation myself, will there be a cost, other than the domain name? Best, Bill William A. Prothero, PhD Prof Emeritus, Dept of Earth Science

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2023-09-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > On Sep 20, 2023, at 11:38 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> The project is open source, so you can also host it yourself: >> >> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md > > > Thanks for the additional information. > > If I host it myself do I

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2023-09-20 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Thanks for the additional information. If I host it myself do I pay anything, or it is free? Thanks, Rick > On Sep 20, 2023, at 11:38 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > If you want the core team to also host and support it, yes, you can hire them > to do that for

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2023-09-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > On Sep 18, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Use Discourse. There are others, but Discourse is currently the >> go-to choice for new forums. Great UX, open source. > > Discourse is $50 per month! No free option for that. If you want the core team to also

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2023-09-18 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Andre, I have already worked with all of those for years. Thanks for the warning anyway. Rick > On Sep 18, 2023, at 2:52 PM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode > wrote: > > You’ll need a very good grasp of Web technologies such as HTML, CSS, JS. You > will also need a good understanding of

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2023-09-18 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Hi Richard, Why is Discourse better than Dat-course? LOL Discourse is $50 per month! No free option for that. Thanks for your input. Rick > On Sep 18, 2023, at 1:57 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > > Don't build it yourself. It's a lot of work. Software is almost

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2023-09-18 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Just be aware that discord has horrible threading. Never run your own stuff on the web unless you’re really sure what you’re doing (unless it is read-only stuff). Preventing SQL and Scripting injection is not a trivial thing to do and in that sense LiveCode and PHP are kinda the same. Doing a

Re: Forum Software LC?

2023-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > Has anyone built Forum Software with LiveCode? There are a lot of PHP > ones, but I have yet to find one that was built with LiveCode. PHP is > hacked all the time, and I have found hacker bots that try to hack my > server all the time by exploiting holes in PHP.  They even

Forum Software LC?

2023-09-17 Thread harrison--- via use-livecode
Has anyone built Forum Software with LiveCode? There are a lot of PHP ones, but I have yet to find one that was built with LiveCode. PHP is hacked all the time, and I have found hacker bots that try to hack my server all the time by exploiting holes in PHP. They even try to install PHP on my