Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-04 Thread Howard Bornstein
Thanks. I get it now. I had used a black to white gradient, but white to
white gives a better feather result. What do you have the blending ink set
to?

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> Hi Howard:
>
> I was referring to the opacity of the inner color stop of the gradient.
> Use two colors in the radial gradient, such as white to white, and set the
> opacity of the color stop assigned to the inner color of the gradient to 0.
>
> The result looks like this:
> http://tactilemedia.com/download/gradient-feather.jpg
>
> You can also pull in the position of the outer color stop so you get more
> blending at the edge of the oval shape.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 2/4/16, 11:28 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>
> >Scott,
> >
> >I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial
> >gradient
> >with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this what
> >you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the opaque to
> >false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not sure
> >how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did
> >you
> >use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding here?
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not
> >> oval-shaped.  That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient
> >>using
> >> a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color
> >>set
> >> to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval
> >> shape.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Scott Rossi
> >> Creative Director
> >> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
> >>  >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on
> >>top of
> >> >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you
> >>have to
> >> >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale
> >>it,
> >> >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However,
> >>I
> >> >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be
> >>a
> >> >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems
> >>to
> >> >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he
> >>comes
> >> >up with.
> >>
> >>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-04 Thread Scott Rossi
The ink is default: srcCopy.  No need to set it otherwise.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 2/4/16, 2:11 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
 wrote:

>Thanks. I get it now. I had used a black to white gradient, but white to
>white gives a better feather result. What do you have the blending ink set
>to?
>
>On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rossi 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Howard:
>>
>> I was referring to the opacity of the inner color stop of the gradient.
>> Use two colors in the radial gradient, such as white to white, and set
>>the
>> opacity of the color stop assigned to the inner color of the gradient
>>to 0.
>>
>> The result looks like this:
>> http://tactilemedia.com/download/gradient-feather.jpg
>>
>> You can also pull in the position of the outer color stop so you get
>>more
>> blending at the edge of the oval shape.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/16, 11:28 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Scott,
>> >
>> >I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial
>> >gradient
>> >with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this
>>what
>> >you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the
>>opaque to
>> >false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not
>>sure
>> >how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did
>> >you
>> >use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding
>>here?
>> >
>> >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not
>> >> oval-shaped.  That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient
>> >>using
>> >> a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner
>>color
>> >>set
>> >> to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in
>>oval
>> >> shape.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Scott Rossi
>> >> Creative Director
>> >> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> >> > >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on
>> >>top of
>> >> >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you
>> >>have to
>> >> >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or
>>scale
>> >>it,
>> >> >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked.
>>However,
>> >>I
>> >> >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would
>>be
>> >>a
>> >> >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami
>>seems
>> >>to
>> >> >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he
>> >>comes
>> >> >up with.
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-04 Thread Terry Judd
OK - given that an image is involved (I think I missed that bit) and
assuming you are feathering to a solid background colour, the best result
that I got was overlaying two identically sized transparent graphics with
a one or two pixel white border and an outer glow. The second graphic has
different parameters to the first and is needed to remove the hint of an
edge of the image that shows though the first graphic’s glow.

Terry...

On 4/02/2016 4:52 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
 wrote:

>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Terry Judd 
>wrote:
>
>> OK, what about thisŠ
>>
>> Transparent (non opaque) graphic object with a 1 pixel linesize. Apply
>>an
>> outer glow - this will display equally on either side of the border.
>>Then
>> alter the border colour to match the glow where it adjoins the border.
>>The
>> border Œdisappears¹ but it may or may not simulate the effect you are
>> looking for.
>>
>
>This is exactly what I did and it works pretty well. Unfortunately, while
>it works fine for creating a feathered rectangle (or oval), it doesn't
>really work for feathering an image, because you don't want the glow to be
>on the inside of the image.
>
>>
>> Terry...
>>
>> On 4/02/2016 3:44 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Scott Rossi"
>> > sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The way one *should* be able to do this is using the innerGlow effect.
>> >However, by itself, using the basic setting is not strong enough, and
>>the
>> >spread effect is backwards (increases outward, rather than inward --
>>bug)
>> >so that's useless.
>> >
>> >You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top
>>of
>> >each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have
>>to
>> >do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale
>>it,
>> >then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>> >
>> >You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a
>>mask
>> >image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect.  If you
>>set
>> >the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius
>>of
>> >glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep
>>the
>> >glow effect intact with no loss of quality.
>> >
>> >FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink
>> >effect.  For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply
>>a
>> >white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to
>> >blendScreen.  This will make all black in the graphic transparent while
>> >keeping the white intact.  But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Scott Rossi
>> >Creative Director
>> >Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> >> >bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
>> >>Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because,
>>as
>> >>he
>> >>says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object
>>no
>> >>matter what we do." (with an opaque object)
>> >>
>> >>He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque
>> >>graphic
>> >>object won't do that (as far as I can tell).
>> >>
>> >>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine
>>for
>> >>>me
>> >>> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic
>> >>>object
>> >>> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set
>>to
>> >>>0.
>> >>>
>> >>> Terry...
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> >>> > >>> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay 
>> >>>wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein
>> >>>> >>> >
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Devin
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Devin Asay
>> >>> >> Office of Digital Humanities
>> >>> >> Brigham Young University
>> >>> >>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-04 Thread Howard Bornstein
Scott,

I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial gradient
with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this what
you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the opaque to
false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not sure
how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did you
use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding here?

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not
> oval-shaped.  That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient using
> a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color set
> to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval
> shape.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>
> >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
> >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
> >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
> >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
> >>
> >
> >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, I
> >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be a
> >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems to
> >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he comes
> >up with.
>
>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-04 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Howard:

I was referring to the opacity of the inner color stop of the gradient.
Use two colors in the radial gradient, such as white to white, and set the
opacity of the color stop assigned to the inner color of the gradient to 0.

The result looks like this:
http://tactilemedia.com/download/gradient-feather.jpg

You can also pull in the position of the outer color stop so you get more
blending at the edge of the oval shape.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 2/4/16, 11:28 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
 wrote:

>Scott,
>
>I don't quite follow this. I made an oval graphic, set up a radial
>gradient
>with both colors set to white and made the fill color clear (is this what
>you mean by the inner color?—nothing shows at all if you set the opaque to
>false). I got a radial gradient that covered the image, but I'm not sure
>how you make that a mask that feathers the image. What blending ink did
>you
>use? Are you using any graphic effects? What am I not understanding here?
>
>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Scott Rossi 
>wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not
>> oval-shaped.  That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient
>>using
>> a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color
>>set
>> to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval
>> shape.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott Rossi
>> Creative Director
>> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/3/16, 9:50 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on
>>top of
>> >>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you
>>have to
>> >>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale
>>it,
>> >>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>> >>
>> >
>> >This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However,
>>I
>> >used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be
>>a
>> >lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems
>>to
>> >think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he
>>comes
>> >up with.
>>
>>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:

>
> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>
> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>
> Devin
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Terry Judd
Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for me
on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic object
when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to 0.

Terry...

On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
 wrote:

>As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>
>On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>>
>> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>>
>> Devin
>>
>> Devin Asay
>> Office of Digital Humanities
>> Brigham Young University
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Devin Asay
Howard,

I'll bet it's what Terry said. I remember being surprised once when effects 
didn't work on a transparent graphic.

Devin

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for me
> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic object
> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to 0.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> 
>> As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein 
 wrote:
 
 If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>>> 
>>> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
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>>> Brigham Young University
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Randy Hengst
When the graphic or button is transparent and show name is selected, you should 
see the outerGlow effect around the name of the control.  

be well,
randy
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com

> On Feb 3, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for me
> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic object
> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to 0.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> 
>> As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein 
 wrote:
 
 If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>>> 
>>> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>>> 
>>> Devin
>>> 
>>> Devin Asay
>>> Office of Digital Humanities
>>> Brigham Young University
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as he
says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no
matter what we do." (with an opaque object)

He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque graphic
object won't do that (as far as I can tell).

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
wrote:

> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for me
> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic object
> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to 0.
>
> Terry...
>
> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>
> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
> >
> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein  >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
> >>
> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
> >>
> >> Devin
> >>
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> >> Office of Digital Humanities
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Scott Rossi
I'm guessing you guys want the final result to be rectangular and not
oval-shaped.  That's too bad because you could use a radial gradient using
a single color (i.e. white to white) in a graphic with the inner color set
to 100% transparent -- this makes a near-perfect mask but only in oval
shape.

Regards,

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Creative Director
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 wrote:

>>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
>>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
>>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
>>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>>
>
>This is how we did it‹using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, I
>used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be a
>lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems to
>think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he comes
>up with.



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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
>
> You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
> each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
> do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
> then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>

This is how we did it—using multiple graphic objects stacked. However, I
used a gradient for each edge and used Outer Glow. I think it would be a
lot of work to script this for general work but Brahmanathaswami seems to
think it will be worthwhile to try it. I'm interested to see what he comes
up with.

You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask
> image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect.  If you set
> the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of
> glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the
> glow effect intact with no loss of quality.
>

I couldn't get this to look anything like feathering because it always had
a hard edge. Maybe that is because of the weakness of the inner glow?


> FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink
> effect.  For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a
> white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to
> blendScreen.  This will make all black in the graphic transparent while
> keeping the white intact.  But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak.
>

I couldn't get this to work at all. When I set the blending ink to
BlendScreen, the black graphic became completely transparent, regardless of
the inner glow settings.

FWIW, I was able to easily create a feathered image for an oval or circular
feather with one graphic object. To do it for a rectangle, took 4 graphic
objects. In each case, we used Outer Glow with a gradient—radial for the
oval, linear for the rectangle.


> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
> On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>  bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
> >Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as he
> >says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no
> >matter what we do." (with an opaque object)
> >
> >He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque graphic
> >object won't do that (as far as I can tell).
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for
> >>me
> >> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic
> >>object
> >> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to
> >>0.
> >>
> >> Terry...
> >>
> >> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
> >>  >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein
> >> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
> >> >>
> >> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
> >> >>
> >> >> Devin
> >> >>
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> >> >> Office of Digital Humanities
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Howard Bornstein
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Terry Judd 
wrote:

> OK, what about thisŠ
>
> Transparent (non opaque) graphic object with a 1 pixel linesize. Apply an
> outer glow - this will display equally on either side of the border. Then
> alter the border colour to match the glow where it adjoins the border. The
> border Œdisappears¹ but it may or may not simulate the effect you are
> looking for.
>

This is exactly what I did and it works pretty well. Unfortunately, while
it works fine for creating a feathered rectangle (or oval), it doesn't
really work for feathering an image, because you don't want the glow to be
on the inside of the image.

>
> Terry...
>
> On 4/02/2016 3:44 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Scott Rossi"
>  sc...@tactilemedia.com> wrote:
>
> >The way one *should* be able to do this is using the innerGlow effect.
> >However, by itself, using the basic setting is not strong enough, and the
> >spread effect is backwards (increases outward, rather than inward -- bug)
> >so that's useless.
> >
> >You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
> >each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
> >do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
> >then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
> >
> >You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask
> >image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect.  If you set
> >the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of
> >glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the
> >glow effect intact with no loss of quality.
> >
> >FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink
> >effect.  For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a
> >white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to
> >blendScreen.  This will make all black in the graphic transparent while
> >keeping the white intact.  But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Scott Rossi
> >Creative Director
> >Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
> > >bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
> >>Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as
> >>he
> >>says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no
> >>matter what we do." (with an opaque object)
> >>
> >>He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque
> >>graphic
> >>object won't do that (as far as I can tell).
> >>
> >>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for
> >>>me
> >>> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic
> >>>object
> >>> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to
> >>>0.
> >>>
> >>> Terry...
> >>>
> >>> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
> >>>  >>> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
> >>> >
> >>> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay 
> >>>wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Devin
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Devin Asay
> >>> >> Office of Digital Humanities
> >>> >> Brigham Young University
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Scott Rossi
The way one *should* be able to do this is using the innerGlow effect.
However, by itself, using the basic setting is not strong enough, and the
spread effect is backwards (increases outward, rather than inward -- bug)
so that's useless.

You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.

You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask
image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect.  If you set
the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of
glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the
glow effect intact with no loss of quality.

FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink
effect.  For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a
white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to
blendScreen.  This will make all black in the graphic transparent while
keeping the white intact.  But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX/UI Design




On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
 wrote:

>Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
>Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as he
>says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no
>matter what we do." (with an opaque object)
>
>He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque graphic
>object won't do that (as far as I can tell).
>
>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for
>>me
>> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic
>>object
>> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to
>>0.
>>
>> Terry...
>>
>> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>> > bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>>
>> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>> >
>> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay  wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein
>>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>> >>
>> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>> >>
>> >> Devin
>> >>
>> >> Devin Asay
>> >> Office of Digital Humanities
>> >> Brigham Young University
>> >>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-03 Thread Terry Judd
OK, what about thisŠ

Transparent (non opaque) graphic object with a 1 pixel linesize. Apply an
outer glow - this will display equally on either side of the border. Then
alter the border colour to match the glow where it adjoins the border. The
border Œdisappears¹ but it may or may not simulate the effect you are
looking for.

Terry...

On 4/02/2016 3:44 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Scott Rossi"
 wrote:

>The way one *should* be able to do this is using the innerGlow effect.
>However, by itself, using the basic setting is not strong enough, and the
>spread effect is backwards (increases outward, rather than inward -- bug)
>so that's useless.
>
>You can achieve a feather effect using multiple objects stacked on top of
>each other, but then you have to ask is that worth doing.  If you have to
>do anything with the set of objects, such as move it around or scale it,
>then the effect is probably too much trouble, especially on mobile.
>
>You can create a feather effect by grouping the source image with a mask
>image that contains a painted rectangular inner glow effect.  If you set
>the centerRect of the mask image to appropriate dimensions (the radius of
>glow at each corner of the image), you can resize the group and keep the
>glow effect intact with no loss of quality.
>
>FYI, you can create a transparent graphic with innerGlow using an ink
>effect.  For example, set the backColor of the graphic to black, apply a
>white innerGlow (255 opacity), and set the ink of the graphic to
>blendScreen.  This will make all black in the graphic transparent while
>keeping the white intact.  But again, the innerGlow is fairly weak.
>
>Regards,
>
>Scott Rossi
>Creative Director
>Tactile Media, UX/UI Design
>
>
>
>
>On 2/3/16, 7:38 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes this is true and understood. However, I've been working with
>>Brahmanathswami to find a solution for a transparent object because, as
>>he
>>says, "Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no
>>matter what we do." (with an opaque object)
>>
>>He was looking for a way to feather images within LC and an opaque
>>graphic
>>object won't do that (as far as I can tell).
>>
>>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Terry Judd 
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Howard - the outerglow (and innerglow) of an object display fine for
>>>me
>>> on both a field and an (and this bit is important) *opaque* graphic
>>>object
>>> when their borderWidth and lineSize properties are respectively set to
>>>0.
>>>
>>> Terry...
>>>
>>> On 4/02/2016 11:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Howard Bornstein"
>>> >> bornst...@designeq.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >As did I. What happened when you set the linesize to 0?
>>> >
>>> >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Devin Asay 
>>>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein
>>>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.
>>> >>
>>> >> For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.
>>> >>
>>> >> Devin
>>> >>
>>> >> Devin Asay
>>> >> Office of Digital Humanities
>>> >> Brigham Young University
>>> >>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-01 Thread Howard Bornstein
If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Devin Asay  wrote:

>
> > On Jan 30, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Terry Judd 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin
> > Brahmanathaswami"  > bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or
> grc?
> >>
> >> Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter
> >> what we do.
> >>
> >> Any options there?
> >
> > Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object
> > boder?
>
> I would try Terry’s approach. User outer glow, but set the lineSize to 0.
> Use the same color for the object fill and the outer glow color.
>
> Devin
>
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-01 Thread Devin Asay

> On Feb 1, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Howard Bornstein  wrote:
> 
> If you set the line size to 0, the outer glow disappears.

For what kind of object? I tested it on a graphic object.

Devin

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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-02-01 Thread Devin Asay

> On Jan 30, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin
> Brahmanathaswami"  bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or grc?
>> 
>> Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter
>> what we do.
>> 
>> Any options there?
> 
> Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object
> boder?

I would try Terry’s approach. User outer glow, but set the lineSize to 0. Use 
the same color for the object fill and the outer glow color.

Devin

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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-01-31 Thread Tore Nilsen
You need to make the group with the object wider and taller than the object 
with the graphic effects in order to show the graphic effects “undisturbed”. 
You must also set the lockLoc (Lock size & position) of the group to true. 

Tore Nilsen


> 31. jan. 2016 kl. 10.29 skrev Phil Jimmieson :
> 
> I've seen clipping of graphic effects when the object with the effect is in a 
> group. For  example I had a round rect with a drop shadow with other objects 
> placed inside it. When I grouped them, the drop shadow became clipped. I 
> removed the drop shadow from the rect and applied it to the group instead - 
> which, in my case, stopped the clipping. If you're unable to do that, perhaps 
> extending the group's margin will prevent the effect from being clipped?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Jan 2016, at 04:02, Terry Judd  wrote:
>> 
>> On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin
>> Brahmanathaswami" > bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or grc?
>>> 
>>> Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter
>>> what we do.
>>> 
>>> Any options there?
>> 
>> Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object
>> boder?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-01-31 Thread Phil Jimmieson
I've seen clipping of graphic effects when the object with the effect is in a 
group. For  example I had a round rect with a drop shadow with other objects 
placed inside it. When I grouped them, the drop shadow became clipped. I 
removed the drop shadow from the rect and applied it to the group instead - 
which, in my case, stopped the clipping. If you're unable to do that, perhaps 
extending the group's margin will prevent the effect from being clipped?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Jan 2016, at 04:02, Terry Judd  wrote:
> 
> On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin
> Brahmanathaswami"  bra...@hindu.org> wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or grc?
>> 
>> Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter
>> what we do.
>> 
>> Any options there?
> 
> Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object
> boder?
> 
> 
> 
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Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-01-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Does anyone have any method to “feather” the edges of a fld, rect or grc?

Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter what 
we do.

Any options there?

BR
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Re: Graphic effects - Feather Edges of Rects

2016-01-30 Thread Terry Judd
On 31/01/2016 1:56 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Sannyasin
Brahmanathaswami"  wrote:

>Does anyone have any method to ³feather² the edges of a fld, rect or grc?
>
>Any inner glow or outer glow leaves a sharp edge on the object no matter
>what we do.
>
>Any options there?

Even if you use both inner and outer glow in combination with no object
boder?

>


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