Re: Idea to keep us all connected
On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > On 3/25/20 12:11 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: > >> I used yesterday’s version, and not installed globally (ran from the opened >> dmg). And will purge that account today, and make another if I need to >> again. > > Interesting. I didn't realize it could be run from the dmg. Another option > would be to run it in a container. It seems that *most* things can. At one point, I found that I was running livecode that way . . . ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Idea to keep us all connected
On 3/25/20 12:11 PM, doc hawk via use-livecode wrote: the problem being that the server daemon was still active after ending a zoom session. And also that it was done without user consent, and in violation of the rules enforcedly apple . . . No argument from me. The "fix" for Safari 12 wasn't very well thought out either in technical terms or in public visibility. I used yesterday’s version, and not installed globally (ran from the opened dmg). And will purge that account today, and make another if I need to again. Interesting. I didn't realize it could be run from the dmg. Another option would be to run it in a container. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Idea to keep us all connected
On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: > > the problem being that the server daemon was still active after ending a zoom > session. And also that it was done without user consent, and in violation of the rules enforcedly apple . . . I used yesterday’s version, and not installed globally (ran from the opened dmg). And will purge that account today, and make another if I need to again. Suspicious? Who, me? :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Since we can't post attachments to this list I posted to the web forum a quick script-only stack library I threw together to access up-to-date worldwide covid-19 information from Johns Hopkins. Hope somebody finds it useful. http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5=33815=189459#p189459 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 3/25/20 11:05 AM, Clarence Martin via use-livecode wrote: Interesting. I did a search on "privacy problems with zoom" And got several hits. Has anyone done any other exploration on this matter and how to circumvent these concerns? The CVE for OSX is basically taken care of with zoom versions past 4.4.4. If you were running earlier versions then there's a fairly simple routine to test for and remove the web server. There were valid reasons the server was deemed necessary to put into place, the problem being that the server daemon was still active after ending a zoom session. I use zoom occasionally without any worries, but if you're concerned then LittleSnitch is your friend. https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Idea to keep us all connected
Interesting. I did a search on "privacy problems with zoom" And got several hits. Has anyone done any other exploration on this matter and how to circumvent these concerns? Sincerely, Clarence Martin Email: chi...@themartinz.com Phone: 636 6965561 -Original Message- From: use-livecode On Behalf Of doc hawk via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:50 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: doc hawk Subject: Re: Idea to keep us all connected On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: > > Zoom is fantastic. A Be very cautious with zoom, and note it’s snarky privacy policy which acknowledges they sell data about you . . . I had to use it yesterday for a nonprofit board meeting. I created a throw-away user account. I found that it could *not* run in TOR, and had to settle for a private safari window. And it *did* attempt to access my downloads folder! (OSX caught this). They have also in the past deliberately circumvented apple’s tulles to install a malware web browser to avoid getting permission to use the camera—and third parties compromised machines with this. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Idea to keep us all connected
On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: > > Zoom is fantastic. A Be very cautious with zoom, and note it’s snarky privacy policy which acknowledges they sell data about you . . . I had to use it yesterday for a nonprofit board meeting. I created a throw-away user account. I found that it could *not* run in TOR, and had to settle for a private safari window. And it *did* attempt to access my downloads folder! (OSX caught this). They have also in the past deliberately circumvented apple’s tulles to install a malware web browser to avoid getting permission to use the camera—and third parties compromised machines with this. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Zoom is fantastic. Another I have been using is FreeConferenceCall which is live video, screen share as well as audio. Great for those who can only use the phone rather than data. Skype really sucks. Thanks, Heather, for this. An excellent idea from the team. Stay in. Stay Safe. Y'all. Sean Cole *Pi Digital * On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 16:46, Richmond via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This is a fantastic idea, although I'd be wary of the takeaway pizza: it > might be infected. > > I am using Zoom myself for my work with children, and it works very well > indeed. > > To all my friend, acquaintances, sparring-partners and enemies on the > Use-List: do keep safe and healthy: > the world would be a lot poorer without you. > > Best, Richmond. > > On 25.03.20 16:47, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: > > Dear List Folks, > > > > These are strange and difficult times. Thanks to COVID-19 we at LiveCode > Ltd. are all now working from home, and staying together as a company via > Zoom and Slack. It's working pretty well for us I must say, at least so > far. Turns out programmers don't much mind being locked in a room alone > with just a computer and a takeaway pizza for company... > > > > I'm sure many of you are in the same boat, quarantined or > semi-quarantined and trying to keep going without the usual levels of face > to face support and company. We've been talking about how we can all > support each other during this time, and stick together as a community. > > > > We want to do our bit. To this end, we are planning to setup a monthly > zoom room for everyone on the list to access. You can speak to each other, > find out how everyone is doing, share your projects, tell your story. We > will join these rooms when we can. This will very much be an extension of > the use-list, with the same ground rules - we're here to talk about using > LiveCode, and help each other out with that. Obviously there will be some > water cooler type chit chat but please... no politics, religion or cheese! > Let's keep it positive. It will be community run, we will participate as > and when we can but primarily this is for you all to talk to each other. > We'll work out the mechanics of it as we go along, but it looks like zoom > has the facility to split off smaller groups so it does not become too > unmanageable and everyone has a chance to participate. > > > > On top of this we want to do more - we want to use what we have to help. > We are fully aware that people across the world are having to stay home, > some are fortunate enough to be able to keep their jobs or businesses and > some have not been so fortunate. We want to give people the opportunity to > learn a new skill. Taking a leaf from Andre's book (thanks Andre, and pun > intended...), while this crisis is ongoing we are going to make the first > year of LiveCode Indy available to brand new users from free to full price. > This will be on a sliding scale - people can pay whatever they want or can > afford. No judgement. We hope you can help us spread the word, if you know > anyone who is in a tough situation, or just someone who has always wanted > to code - please pass this on to them. We also ask you (although we know > you will) to welcome new people to the community with open arms and help > them through this new journey. We would love to hear any ideas you have on > how we as a community can help more people through coding. We are putting > the campaign together now, we expect to be ready to launch it in a few days > time. > > > > All we ask at this time is that existing customers do not cancel their > subscriptions to then go ahead and purchase a new license on the sliding > scale. It's worth noting that although the first year will be at a price > determined by the user - the second year will be at full price. If any of > you are struggling at this time and are concerned about your subscription > payments please do get in touch with me on the usual supp...@livecode.com > email and we will try to support you in the best way we can. > > > > Thanks for reading this rather long post. Take care, stay home, stay > well and enjoy this excellent opportunity to really get to grips with > LiveCode in your solitude! > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > Heather > > > > Heather Laine > > Customer Services Manager > > LiveCode Ltd > > www.livecode.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode
Re: Idea to keep us all connected
This is a fantastic idea, although I'd be wary of the takeaway pizza: it might be infected. I am using Zoom myself for my work with children, and it works very well indeed. To all my friend, acquaintances, sparring-partners and enemies on the Use-List: do keep safe and healthy: the world would be a lot poorer without you. Best, Richmond. On 25.03.20 16:47, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: Dear List Folks, These are strange and difficult times. Thanks to COVID-19 we at LiveCode Ltd. are all now working from home, and staying together as a company via Zoom and Slack. It's working pretty well for us I must say, at least so far. Turns out programmers don't much mind being locked in a room alone with just a computer and a takeaway pizza for company... I'm sure many of you are in the same boat, quarantined or semi-quarantined and trying to keep going without the usual levels of face to face support and company. We've been talking about how we can all support each other during this time, and stick together as a community. We want to do our bit. To this end, we are planning to setup a monthly zoom room for everyone on the list to access. You can speak to each other, find out how everyone is doing, share your projects, tell your story. We will join these rooms when we can. This will very much be an extension of the use-list, with the same ground rules - we're here to talk about using LiveCode, and help each other out with that. Obviously there will be some water cooler type chit chat but please... no politics, religion or cheese! Let's keep it positive. It will be community run, we will participate as and when we can but primarily this is for you all to talk to each other. We'll work out the mechanics of it as we go along, but it looks like zoom has the facility to split off smaller groups so it does not become too unmanageable and everyone has a chance to participate. On top of this we want to do more - we want to use what we have to help. We are fully aware that people across the world are having to stay home, some are fortunate enough to be able to keep their jobs or businesses and some have not been so fortunate. We want to give people the opportunity to learn a new skill. Taking a leaf from Andre's book (thanks Andre, and pun intended...), while this crisis is ongoing we are going to make the first year of LiveCode Indy available to brand new users from free to full price. This will be on a sliding scale - people can pay whatever they want or can afford. No judgement. We hope you can help us spread the word, if you know anyone who is in a tough situation, or just someone who has always wanted to code - please pass this on to them. We also ask you (although we know you will) to welcome new people to the community with open arms and help them through this new journey. We would love to hear any ideas you have on how we as a community can help more people through coding. We are putting the campaign together now, we expect to be ready to launch it in a few days time. All we ask at this time is that existing customers do not cancel their subscriptions to then go ahead and purchase a new license on the sliding scale. It's worth noting that although the first year will be at a price determined by the user - the second year will be at full price. If any of you are struggling at this time and are concerned about your subscription payments please do get in touch with me on the usual supp...@livecode.com email and we will try to support you in the best way we can. Thanks for reading this rather long post. Take care, stay home, stay well and enjoy this excellent opportunity to really get to grips with LiveCode in your solitude! Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Also, the Metropolitan Opera in New York is making daily streams available for free, one opera per day. This week is all Wagner, but next week looks more interesting (ducking). There was an absolutely wonderful Il Trovatore last week. Streams are available for 24 hours, so if you can pull yourself away from coding for a couple of hours, check it out. https://www.metopera.org/user-information/nightly-met-opera-streams/ -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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Awesome +1 Creating music is the great unifier and is physiologically calming in this stressful time. I metaphorically dusted off my electric guitar and re-strung it. Fender is offering 3 free months of on-line lessons for all abilities and types of guitars. If you need a break from LC coding take a look. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:21 AM To: Heather Laine via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: Idea to keep us all connected On 3/25/20 7:47 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: > Thanks for reading this rather long post. Take care, stay home, stay well and enjoy this excellent opportunity to really get to grips with LiveCode in your solitude! Awesome. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
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On 3/25/20 7:47 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode wrote: Thanks for reading this rather long post. Take care, stay home, stay well and enjoy this excellent opportunity to really get to grips with LiveCode in your solitude! Awesome. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Idea to keep us all connected
Dear List Folks, These are strange and difficult times. Thanks to COVID-19 we at LiveCode Ltd. are all now working from home, and staying together as a company via Zoom and Slack. It's working pretty well for us I must say, at least so far. Turns out programmers don't much mind being locked in a room alone with just a computer and a takeaway pizza for company... I'm sure many of you are in the same boat, quarantined or semi-quarantined and trying to keep going without the usual levels of face to face support and company. We've been talking about how we can all support each other during this time, and stick together as a community. We want to do our bit. To this end, we are planning to setup a monthly zoom room for everyone on the list to access. You can speak to each other, find out how everyone is doing, share your projects, tell your story. We will join these rooms when we can. This will very much be an extension of the use-list, with the same ground rules - we're here to talk about using LiveCode, and help each other out with that. Obviously there will be some water cooler type chit chat but please... no politics, religion or cheese! Let's keep it positive. It will be community run, we will participate as and when we can but primarily this is for you all to talk to each other. We'll work out the mechanics of it as we go along, but it looks like zoom has the facility to split off smaller groups so it does not become too unmanageable and everyone has a chance to participate. On top of this we want to do more - we want to use what we have to help. We are fully aware that people across the world are having to stay home, some are fortunate enough to be able to keep their jobs or businesses and some have not been so fortunate. We want to give people the opportunity to learn a new skill. Taking a leaf from Andre's book (thanks Andre, and pun intended...), while this crisis is ongoing we are going to make the first year of LiveCode Indy available to brand new users from free to full price. This will be on a sliding scale - people can pay whatever they want or can afford. No judgement. We hope you can help us spread the word, if you know anyone who is in a tough situation, or just someone who has always wanted to code - please pass this on to them. We also ask you (although we know you will) to welcome new people to the community with open arms and help them through this new journey. We would love to hear any ideas you have on how we as a community can help more people through coding. We are putting the campaign together now, we expect to be ready to launch it in a few days time. All we ask at this time is that existing customers do not cancel their subscriptions to then go ahead and purchase a new license on the sliding scale. It's worth noting that although the first year will be at a price determined by the user - the second year will be at full price. If any of you are struggling at this time and are concerned about your subscription payments please do get in touch with me on the usual supp...@livecode.com email and we will try to support you in the best way we can. Thanks for reading this rather long post. Take care, stay home, stay well and enjoy this excellent opportunity to really get to grips with LiveCode in your solitude! Warm Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer Services Manager LiveCode Ltd www.livecode.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode