Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Hi Ralph, It is working just fine. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On May 25, 2017, at 6:45 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode >wrote: > > It works for me on OSX 10.11.6 > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:04 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Mike Kerner > Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume > rather than restart? > > I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications folder. > You have to command-drag it out of the applications folder, first, before > you modify it - at least I do, anyway. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> This is great Ralph >> >> Thank you >> >> I wonder if this can open up other possibilities as well >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Ralph DiMola >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> 1) Go to the Applications folder >>> 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package >>> Contents" >>> 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder >>> 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and >> select >>> "Get Info" >>> 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your >>> account >> name >>> and select "Read & Write" >>> 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders >>> 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. >>> 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" >> and >>> then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". >>> 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock >> option. >>> >>> 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" >>> or >> like I >>> do delete the key all together(2 lines) >>> 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator >> folders. >>> 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. >>> >>> Ralph DiMola >>> IT Director >>> Evergreen Information Services >>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On >> Behalf >>> Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM >>> To: How to use LiveCode >>> Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com >>> Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply >>> resume rather than restart? >>> >>> I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be >> easy on >>> a pc. Researching it now. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. I am playing with the hack now. I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - >> changing >>> the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a >>> lot of trouble to set up right now. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >>> wrote: > > Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I > built in > 8 that still use the hack. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. >> >> Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a >> plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers >> might ding the app. >> >> What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing >> to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings > option. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the > current state, but my users would have to wait for the map > widget to reload >> every > time they came back from another app. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > use-livecode mailing list >
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
On 2017-05-24 21:34, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. Like this: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/5515 Alex is also working on adding all the options for 'background execution' too. Both of these should appear in the next 9 DP (7), which will appear when we've finally got everything working again (after updating Skia, toolchains etc.) - the latter has been causing us significant headaches for quite a while... Warmest Regards, Mark. P.S. Yes it took a long time to add this - a slight case of ball-dropping amongst a vast variety of other things! -- Mark Waddingham ~ m...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
It works for me on OSX 10.11.6 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:04 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart? I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications folder. You have to command-drag it out of the applications folder, first, before you modify it - at least I do, anyway. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This is great Ralph > > Thank you > > I wonder if this can open up other possibilities as well > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Ralph DiMola > >> wrote: > > > > 1) Go to the Applications folder > > 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package > > Contents" > > 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder > > 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and > select > > "Get Info" > > 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your > > account > name > > and select "Read & Write" > > 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders > > 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. > > 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" > and > > then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". > > 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock > option. > > > > 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" > > or > like I > > do delete the key all together(2 lines) > > 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator > folders. > > 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > > Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM > > To: How to use LiveCode > > Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply > > resume rather than restart? > > > > I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be > easy on > > a pc. Researching it now. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. > >> > >> I am playing with the hack now. > >> > >> I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - > changing > > the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a > > lot of trouble to set up right now. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > > wrote: > >>> > >>> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I > >>> built in > >>> 8 that still use the hack. > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >>> > It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. > > Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a > plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers > might ding the app. > > What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Thank you! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The > >> only thing > to > >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform > >> the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > >> > >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via > >> use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the > >>> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map > >>> widget to reload > every > >>> time they came back from another app. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage > >>> your subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> On the first day, God
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Jonathan, Are we running? For the next person who is trying to solve the same problem, it would be good to let them know how it ends. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Mike Kernerwrote: > I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications > folder. You have to command-drag it out of the applications folder, first, > before you modify it - at least I do, anyway. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> This is great Ralph >> >> Thank you >> >> I wonder if this can open up other possibilities as well >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On May 24, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Ralph DiMola >> wrote: >> > >> > 1) Go to the Applications folder >> > 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package >> > Contents" >> > 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder >> > 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and >> select >> > "Get Info" >> > 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account >> name >> > and select "Read & Write" >> > 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders >> > 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. >> > 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" >> and >> > then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". >> > 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock >> option. >> > >> > 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" or >> like I >> > do delete the key all together(2 lines) >> > 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator >> folders. >> > 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. >> > >> > Ralph DiMola >> > IT Director >> > Evergreen Information Services >> > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On >> Behalf >> > Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM >> > To: How to use LiveCode >> > Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com >> > Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume >> > rather than restart? >> > >> > I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be >> easy on >> > a pc. Researching it now. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. >> >> >> >> I am playing with the hack now. >> >> >> >> I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - >> changing >> > the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of >> > trouble to set up right now. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I >> >>> built in >> >>> 8 that still use the hack. >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> >> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. >> >> Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a >> plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers >> might ding the app. >> >> What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > Thank you! >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only >> >> thing >> to >> >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the >> >> hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the >> >>> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget >> >>> to reload >> every >> >>> time they came back from another app. >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> ___ >> >>> use-livecode mailing list >> >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> >>> subscription preferences: >> >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the >> >> second day, God created the oceans. >> >>
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
I'm pretty sure you can't do it while it's still in the applications folder. You have to command-drag it out of the applications folder, first, before you modify it - at least I do, anyway. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > This is great Ralph > > Thank you > > I wonder if this can open up other possibilities as well > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Ralph DiMola> wrote: > > > > 1) Go to the Applications folder > > 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package > > Contents" > > 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder > > 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and > select > > "Get Info" > > 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account > name > > and select "Read & Write" > > 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders > > 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. > > 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" > and > > then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". > > 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock > option. > > > > 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" or > like I > > do delete the key all together(2 lines) > > 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator > folders. > > 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > > Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM > > To: How to use LiveCode > > Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume > > rather than restart? > > > > I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be > easy on > > a pc. Researching it now. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. > >> > >> I am playing with the hack now. > >> > >> I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - > changing > > the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of > > trouble to set up right now. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > > wrote: > >>> > >>> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I > >>> built in > >>> 8 that still use the hack. > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >>> > It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. > > Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a > plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers > might ding the app. > > What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Thank you! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only > >> thing > to > >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the > >> hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > >> > >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the > >>> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget > >>> to reload > every > >>> time they came back from another app. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > >> second day, God created the oceans. > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and > >> did a little diving. > >> And God said, "This is good." > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
This is great Ralph Thank you I wonder if this can open up other possibilities as well Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Ralph DiMolawrote: > > 1) Go to the Applications folder > 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package > Contents" > 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder > 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and select > "Get Info" > 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account name > and select "Read & Write" > 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders > 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. > 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" and > then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". > 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock option. > > 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" or like I > do delete the key all together(2 lines) > 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator folders. > 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume > rather than restart? > > I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be easy on > a pc. Researching it now. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. >> >> I am playing with the hack now. >> >> I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - changing > the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of > trouble to set up right now. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: >>> >>> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I >>> built in >>> 8 that still use the hack. >>> >>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding the app. What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only >> thing to >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the >> hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the >>> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget >>> to reload every >>> time they came back from another app. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the >> second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and >> did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second >>> day, God created the oceans. >>> On the third day, God
RE: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
1) Go to the Applications folder 2) Right click on the LC app you are using and select "Show Package Contents" 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and select "Get Info" 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account name and select "Read & Write" 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" and then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock option. 10) Either change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" or like I do delete the key all together(2 lines) 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator folders. 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:37 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart? I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be easy on a pc. Researching it now. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. > > I am playing with the hack now. > > I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - changing the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of trouble to set up right now. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecodewrote: >> >> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I >> built in >> 8 that still use the hack. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. >>> >>> Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a >>> plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers >>> might ding the app. >>> >>> What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only > thing >>> to > remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the > hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the >> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget >> to reload >>> every >> time they came back from another app. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the > second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and > did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second >> day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and >> did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
I don't actually know how to do any of the steps for this - would be easy on a pc. Researching it now. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 4:27 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. > > I am playing with the hack now. > > I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - changing > the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of > trouble to set up right now. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >>wrote: >> >> Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I built in >> 8 that still use the hack. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. >>> >>> Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a >>> plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding >>> the app. >>> >>> What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you! Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing >>> to > remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, > again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current >> state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload >>> every >> time they came back from another app. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >> On the second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
I read that on the forums, but I defer to Ralph on this. I am playing with the hack now. I think I could also have a legitimate reason for playing audio - changing the music as a user gets closer to a marker - but that would be a lot of trouble to set up right now. Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >wrote: > > Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I built in > 8 that still use the hack. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. >> >> Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a >> plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding >> the app. >> >> What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing >> to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current > state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload >> every > time they came back from another app. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I have at least a couple of apps I built in 8 that still use the hack. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. > > Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a > plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding > the app. > > What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Thank you! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing > to > >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, > >> again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > >> > >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current > >>> state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload > every > >>> time they came back from another app. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> ___ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > >> On the second day, God created the oceans. > >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > >> and did a little diving. > >> And God said, "This is good." > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Jonathan, This works in V8/V9. I don't make a copy. 1) In the app bundle look in the folder ==>"Tools/Runtime/iOS" set all the folders to read/write. 2) Edit the setting.plist in each of the folders and change UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key value to "False" (or like I do...delete the key all together) Apple has never complained. But... Ticking the "Background Audio" option sets UIBackgroundModes key to "audio". You will get rejected if you app does not play background audio. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 3:55 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: jonathandly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart? It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding the app. What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecodewrote: >> >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only >> thing to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform >> the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the >>> current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to >>> reload every time they came back from another app. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second >> day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and >> did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
It looks like the plist hack is not available in version 8. Choosing background audio works - but that means I need to have a plausible reason for having background audio or Apple reviewers might ding the app. What a pain - why not just allow it to work the way other apps work? Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, jonathandly...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >>wrote: >> >> If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing to >> remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, >> again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current >>> state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload every >>> time they came back from another app. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth >> On the second day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
The other thing to remember is that you will have to command-drag the LC app out of your Applications folder, modify it, then put it back (you can't modify an application in the applications folder). On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thank you! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing > to > > remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, > > again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > > > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current > >> state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload > every > >> time they came back from another app. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > > On the second day, God created the oceans. > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > and did a little diving. > > And God said, "This is good." > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Thank you! Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2017, at 3:34 PM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode >wrote: > > If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing to > remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, > again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current >> state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload every >> time they came back from another app. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
If you're referring to ios, look up "plist hack", here. The only thing to remember is that for each version of LC, you have to perform the hack, again, until Edinburgh gives us a Standalone Settings option. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current > state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload every > time they came back from another app. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, "This is good." ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Is there any way at all to have a mobile app simply resume rather than restart?
Having to restart the app from scratch sucks. I can store the current state, but my users would have to wait for the map widget to reload every time they came back from another app. Sent from my iPhone ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode