Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 28/11/2016 16:19, Bob Sneidar wrote: It was a joke Peter. Buggy? Licecode? Ticksperience?? Apparently I missed it. Sorry! Peter :-) -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Technical Project Manager lcb-mode for Emacs:

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Bob Sneidar
It was a joke Peter. Buggy? Licecode? Ticksperience?? Bob S > On Nov 28, 2016, at 08:16 , Peter TB Brett wrote: > > > > On 28/11/2016 16:00, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too >> buggy for my needs. You may have

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 28/11/2016 16:00, Bob Sneidar wrote: I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too buggy for my needs. You may have a different ticksperience. :-) Hi Bob, Please can you let me know which bugs are causing you particular trouble? I could take a look and see whether

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-28 Thread Bob Sneidar
I personally have founf the current version of Licecode to be too buggy for my needs. You may have a different ticksperience. :-) Bob S On Nov 24, 2016, at 07:49 , Todd Fabacher > wrote: Our thinking is it would have 5+ core functionalities

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Roger Eller
On Nov 25, 2016 11:03 AM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote: > > Roger Eller wrote: > > > Back when we had the RevWeb plugin, my browser based apps just worked. > > That's exactly where a standalone is every bit as valuable as Mark was suggesting... > > I can't say enough

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matt Maier wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: [a bunch of stuff too long to quote but available at: ] > Richard, > Thanks for that explanation. I've heard you mention this setup several >

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Actually I have two long running apps (15 years) working exactly has Richard describes. Indeed is has so many advantages. I love being on SKYPE with one of our volunteers who may have a small complaint about the UX or wants to added something to the back end database… I quicklyl fix it and just

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Matt Maier
Richard, Thanks for that explanation. I've heard you mention this setup several times before but this is the most detail I've seen you put in one place. Clarification question: do you cache the last stacks downloaded in case the user isn't connected to a network? On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 8:02 AM,

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > I disagree that you might as well be running a desktop app. The > download of the helper would only be necessary once (like the old > RevWeb plugin). Back when we had the RevWeb plugin, my browser based > apps just worked. > Being in a position where localized automation is

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-25 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 25/11/2016 04:38, Todd Fabacher wrote: Mark, One question I had that was NOT answered is..Can a JavaScript function call a LiveCode function? I know this was added in the LC8 browser. Hi Todd, Mark and Kevin are on holiday today, but I'll try and address this for you. At the moment,

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Todd Fabacher
Hello Roger, you need to remember almost 50% of web users are on a non-desktop OS, and almost none of them support plugins like you are describing. LC HTML5 is what it is...It is an App running in an HTML5 canvas. We will be limited that those restrictions. But I understand where you are coming

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
I too never quite understood why the RevWeb Plugin was abandoned. The old issue that users resist such downloads, never, IMHO, really materialized… just look at the kJillion extensions for FireFox or Chrome, there is no end in sight. So the plugin was abandoned, but in the end, hasn't the team

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Roger Eller
I disagree that you might as well be running a desktop app. The download of the helper would only be necessary once (like the old RevWeb plugin). Back when we had the RevWeb plugin, my browser based apps just worked. Being in a position where localized automation is primarily what I create for

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Mark Waddingham
I should perhaps say that whilst what I'm saying above sounds somewhat doom and gloom, it isn't. Browsers have a huge responsibility to keep your computer safe from malicious attack (there are people who spend all their time trying to find holes to wriggle through and then exploit). Browser

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Mark Waddingham
The connection could possibly be made by using web sockets I guess (someone correct me if I'm wrong). However, the user would have to download, install and run the helper process... At which point you might as well be running a desktop app I'd think. Browsers do not and will almost certainly

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Roger Eller
Mark, Would it be possible to have a LC executable (something resembling LC Server) on a Desktop, allowing the browser to access the local machine by way of that backgrounded process? Could it be an out of the box capability only turned on by the machine's primary user, via the html5 application

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Mark Waddingham
Indeed. Once we have JS which 'does a similar thing' to answer file (or any other OS related piece of syntax) - hooking it up to that command is relatively straightforward. The hard part is writing the JavaScript implementations of the various OS services we are so used to using directly in

Re: JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Roger Eller
File picker should not have to be built in another language, in my opinion. Ask or Answer file SHOULD just work. Again, my opinion. This is LiveCode after all. ~Roger On Nov 24, 2016 10:49 AM, "Todd Fabacher" wrote: > Hello LiveCode community, > > At Digital Pomegranate

JavaScript + LC HTML5 = LiveCode.js

2016-11-24 Thread Todd Fabacher
Hello LiveCode community, At Digital Pomegranate we are very excited about the update to LiveCode HTML5. We already have several projects that we plan on using the platform for. Since our LiveCode team has only a little experience in JavaScript, we are thinking of creating a LiveCode.js. This