The person in question is both an adult and has expressed an interest in
learning computer science, not natural languages, so most of the
discussion here has been irrelevant to your request.
Scratch, for example, can be useful for young learners but at higher
cognitive development levels is
Interesting stuff.
"But writing in LC means that you have to master concepts and algorithms"
I wonder which programming language (and I don't mean block-based
baby-hits-the-Lego-bricks stuff)
does not involve mastering concepts and algorithms.
One of the things that has slightly annoyed me
>> There are many good reasons to learn another language, ranging from the
>> well-proven neurological benefits of multiple languages to the simple common
>> courtesy of doing so - but in straightforward "increase in ability to
>> communicate" I'm unconvinced that an English speaker gains
I think that that has little to do with how people acquire other
languages, but quite a lot
to do with concepts of inclusiveness and tribalism.
I doubt whether those Slovakians are consciously setting out to be rude,
but:
1. They probably feel that it is easier to convey certain concepts to
I agree on this Bob.
Op 4-11-2019 om 16:54 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
I'll just throw this in the mix. I find in America that where once people spoke
the language common to their immediate society (the people around them) now
people seem to not care. We have 3 slovakian volleyball
I'll just throw this in the mix. I find in America that where once people spoke
the language common to their immediate society (the people around them) now
people seem to not care. We have 3 slovakian volleyball players at the beach
who in spite of speaking perfectly good english, revert to
On 03/11/2019 22:04, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
I'm not sure if in some countries kids learn languages more easily
than in others.
But, I do think:
1. In English-speaking countries there is an unconscious feeling that
learning a foreign language is not 100%
serious as "all the world
The problem of learning human languages is not very different
from the problem of learning programming languages.
TMHO, not knowing JavaScript is comparable to not knowing Spanish
(the dominant language in the USA).
We all are more or less idiots.
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I'm not sure if in some countries kids learn languages more easily than
in others.
But, I do think:
1. In English-speaking countries there is an unconscious feeling that
learning a foreign language is not 100%
serious as "all the world learns English."
2. Many countries where the national
Funny, the mistake is why one got the error and thus had a blunder.
It seems that in Finland due to their school system that they are also
pretty good in languages, it also seems they have the highest learning
scores in Europe. Surprislngly it seems to be a system created in the
USA where it
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:10 AM, Richmond via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> 1. It uses a higher order of language to issue instructions than the level at
> which the learners
> who are supposed to benefit from that software are supposed to be at.
>
> 2. It features screens that are cluttered with
Thanks to those who replied to my original question.
I also liked the OT diversion into learning Dutch. I have Dutch friends and I
just don’t know how they successfully learn languages at school when other
nationalities (British, French, Spanish etc) seem hopelessly bad at it. As an
Personally I'd far rather learn from LiveCode and NOT "Scratch"
(awfully sorry but that was just too juicy to pass up on!)
I posted something that is really goofy on the Forums: basically what I
do with
LiveCode when I'm not being a nutty fruitcake with Sanskrit, but
actually making money
Yes we watch it too, he is famous. I love when his son tries to speak dutch
haha. Sometimes his brother is in the show, then you can hear some Drents which
is different from normal dutch but not as hard as Fries that's a language on
it's own.
Bob Sneidar via use-livecode schreef op 1
ol and fun.
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
>mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>>> To: How to use LiveCode <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>>> Cc: R
Dr. Pol is Dutch. I love that show.
Bob S
> On Nov 1, 2019, at 15:31 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> we were very often in the Netherlands for vacation, so i seriously tried to
> learn Dutch.
> But it ended that the Dutch better understood me when i spoke German or
>
> To: How to use LiveCode > <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
>> Cc: Richmond Mathewson > <mailto:richmondmathew...@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
>>
>>
> The trick is the engagement, to make it seem cool and fun.
> Craig
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Richmond Mathewson
> Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019
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> From: Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Richmond Mathewson
> Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:59 pm
> Subject: Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
>
> I have a radical disagreement with Scratch and its ilk
stuff in software.
The trick is the engagement, to make it seem cool and fun.
Craig
-Original Message-
From: Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Richmond Mathewson
Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
I
12:59 pm
Subject: Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
I have a radical disagreement with Scratch and its ilk as, while it does
allow one to run up simple computer games, it does not let users see the
"guts" of a program, and seems not to give children transferrable skill for
I have a radical disagreement with Scratch and its ilk as, while it does
allow one to run up simple computer games, it does not let users see the
"guts" of a program, and seems not to give children transferrable skill for
non-block programming languages. I have successfully started kids from 9
My recommendation is to have them start with scratch.mit.edu and spend a month
making stuff with that language. Scratch is built for 1st graders to pick up
and it is extremely satisfying as the starter language. They get exposed to all
sorts of concepts, message passing, variables, flow
I'm not really qualified to answer that, so I was mum, but if I had to answer
and couldn't be held to account... ;-)
I would say that any young person who wants to become a programmer or app
designer (not sure the distinction) will need a degree, pure and simple.
Otherwise they will not even
I was disappointed that I only got one reply to my query about LC as a platform
for learning programming - I thought this was a big thing with quite a few
people on this list, some of whom are actually educators. Since I’ve failed in
this, can someone suggest a better way of getting an answer
and comfortable. If you are good at this, it
will also appear to be fun.
Craig
-Original Message-
From: Graham Samuel via use-livecode
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Graham Samuel
Sent: Mon, Oct 28, 2019 8:53 am
Subject: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
Hi all
I have been approached
Hi all
I have been approached by one of my family to ask what would be the first steps
for someone (a young adult) to enable them to enter the world of app design and
programming. Obviously I need to ask more questions myself, such as whether
this would be to get a job, or simply as an
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