Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Scott made many of the same good points as you did - so I won't replicate my replies here. On 06/04/2020 05:20, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On April 5, 2020 8:39:15 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequatel

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I’m curious though if a library could be created so that a handler for > a mobile message (let’s say a touch message) could “translate” into a > desktop message? In this way, the app on the mobile would send a > mouseUp message to the target. Why not? Most developers I know

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Touch messages already send duplicate mouse messages. In fact, unless you need two-finger zooming, you don't need touch handlers at all. I only use standard mouse handlers generally because they wotk on both mobile and desktop. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive So

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I think that would kill the Apple Desktop OS. Bob S On Apr 6, 2020, at 6:37 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: Apple is absolutely working towards iOS and macOS being highly similar. However, if you're hoping that brings increased simplicity of appl

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
There’s the rub I think. For RunRev (is the company still called that?) to make what mobile objects they can universal, and leave the others as is would then create a situation where developers would have to know what controls were universal, and which were Mobile/Desktop only. It just adds anot

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-06 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/5/2020 10:48 PM, JB via use-livecode wrote: The question is why don’t they make them compatible? Is their some kind of FCC regulation that prevents Apple from using phone apps on the desktop? Back in the HyperCard days there was hyperDialer and I really liked it a lot but I think the compa

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On April 5, 2020 8:39:15 PM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode wrote: 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately (e.g. scrolling fields). Somewhat true. LC made a start by adding widgets you can drop onto the stack to create native mobile buttons and fields, but I'd like to

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread JB via use-livecode
It seems if Apple made the iOS compatible with the desktop it would solve a lot of problems. The question is why don’t they make them compatible? Is their some kind of FCC regulation that prevents Apple from using phone apps on the desktop? Back in the HyperCard days there was hyperDialer and I

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
As I see it, there are 4 broad areas of problem for LC on mobile OSes. The first two have been well described earlier in the thread and should just be fixed. 1. xTalk features just don't work, or work totally inadequately (e.g. scrolling fields). 2. Failure in cross-platform equivalence. T

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode
Richard: > Exactly. Reducing the differences between runtime and development > is a cornerstone of The xTalk Way. [...] > Suffice to say politely and succinctly: a decade later, LC for > mobile remains half-baked compared to what it could be, compared > to The xTalk Way that rests at the heart

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 4/5/20 1:12 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> Once I saw that the scroller works well on the field content I've >> been working with, I added a routine to my mobile lib that >> automatically removes the vScrollbar from any non-editable field >> that has on

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
What I wrote here originally: >  I've switched over to trying a group set as a container and setting > the field itself to scrolling layermode. I haven't tried it yet on > mobile but we'll see. is wrong, the field inside the container group uses dynamic layermode. Scrolling layermode doesn

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 4/5/20 1:12 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Once I saw that the scroller works well on the field content I've been working with, I added a routine to my mobile lib that automatically removes the vScrollbar from any non-editable field that has one, and instantiates a matching scrol

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On April 5, 2020 12:46:19 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I've had such good luck so far with using scrollers directly on >> fields that it never occurred to me that accelerated rendering >> would be useful for field objects. > > If you're using a vScrollbar then no problem.

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On April 5, 2020 12:46:19 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: I've had such good luck so far with using scrollers directly on fields that it never occurred to me that accelerated rendering would be useful for field objects. If you're using a vScrollbar then no problem. But for swipe

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > @Richard, when developing for desktop you don't need the enclosing > group, but on mobile you do because acceleratedRendering only applies > to groups. Without it you can't achieve smooth scrolling. I wish we > could just set a field to scrolling layermode, it would sure m

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Thanks guys. I did remember there was a limit but for some reason thought it was only for the width of a line. I've switched over to trying a group set as a container and setting the field itself to scrolling layermode. I haven't tried it yet on mobile but we'll see. @Richard, when developing

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > I have a field that reports a formattedheight of 125396. I want to > extend it to full height for use inside an enclosing scrolling group. I see that method used in the Lesson on using a scroller for text as well, but I've never understood why. What is the advantage of

Re: Maximum field height?

2020-04-05 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode
On 4/5/2020 1:16 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I have a field that reports a formattedheight of 125396. I want to extend it to full height for use inside an enclosing scrolling group. But when I try to set the height to the formattedHeight, I get an error: Value is not a number.

Maximum field height?

2020-04-04 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I have a field that reports a formattedheight of 125396. I want to extend it to full height for use inside an enclosing scrolling group. But when I try to set the height to the formattedHeight, I get an error: Value is not a number. If I try to set its height in the property inspector, it rever