Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
Probably not related, none of my test stacks call out to external files. I relaunched LC 10.0.0 and everthing works again. The only difference is that I closed the App Overview before quitting and then reopened it manually after the new launch. I don't know if that made the difference, or if something just got screwy while running the IDE. The same issue happened in LC 10.0.0dp1 though and I went back to 9.6.6 rather than deal with it. I'll see if the problem recurs over time. On 2/21/22 7:20 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: We're tracking down a Big Sur "bug/feature" that I don't have a recipe stack for yet, but I'll explains as it *might* be related? We've found that if a stack is internal to the .app under Big Sur (and presumably Monterey) that has a video player, the video in the player plays and pauses normally (i.e the UI is responsive to any messages to the player or menus that control the player). i.e it behaves as expected - normally. However, if the player is in a LOCAL stack, but loaded from OUTSIDE the .app package (say from the desktop or elsewhere in the Applications folder, but outside the BUNDLE), then when the video is played, the UI becomes non-responsive until the video is finished playing. We have seen other issues relating to file and folder actions that FAIL under Catalina and up if performed from a loaded external stack but work if loaded from a substack as part of the .app build. (Stacks in the app bundle, but external to the .app standalone may work - we've not tested) We think this is due to Apple's permission scheme under Catalina and above and how it tries to detect resource access in real time and perhaps something about the stack being external sets the permissions system off. I mention it in the unlikely case you are loading a external stack prior to your message box tests. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
We're tracking down a Big Sur "bug/feature" that I don't have a recipe stack for yet, but I'll explains as it *might* be related? We've found that if a stack is internal to the .app under Big Sur (and presumably Monterey) that has a video player, the video in the player plays and pauses normally (i.e the UI is responsive to any messages to the player or menus that control the player). i.e it behaves as expected - normally. However, if the player is in a LOCAL stack, but loaded from OUTSIDE the .app package (say from the desktop or elsewhere in the Applications folder, but outside the BUNDLE), then when the video is played, the UI becomes non-responsive until the video is finished playing. We have seen other issues relating to file and folder actions that FAIL under Catalina and up if performed from a loaded external stack but work if loaded from a substack as part of the .app build. (Stacks in the app bundle, but external to the .app standalone may work - we've not tested) We think this is due to Apple's permission scheme under Catalina and above and how it tries to detect resource access in real time and perhaps something about the stack being external sets the permissions system off. I mention it in the unlikely case you are loading a external stack prior to your message box tests. On 2/21/2022 2:16 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Thanks, looks like it's just me. Glad I asked here first, but I have no idea what might be causing it. . -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 11:13:33 PM Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Just downloaded and tested and it works ok for me on Monterey. Terry From: use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Date: Monday, 21 February 2022 at 3:26 pm To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0? Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned I'm on Mac OS X Big Sur. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 6:21:01 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit) under Windows 10 On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no response appears: put the number of cds put the number of cds of this stack put the number of cards of stack "mystack" the rect of stack "mystack" edit script of etc. This works sometimes: set the rect of this stack to I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. Maybe. Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property inspector since typing "edit script of btn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
Thanks, looks like it's just me. Glad I asked here first, but I have no idea what might be causing it. . -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 11:13:33 PM Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: Just downloaded and tested and it works ok for me on Monterey. Terry From: use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Date: Monday, 21 February 2022 at 3:26 pm To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0? Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned I'm on Mac OS X Big Sur. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 6:21:01 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit) under Windows 10 On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no response appears: put the number of cds put the number of cds of this stack put the number of cards of stack "mystack" the rect of stack "mystack" edit script of etc. This works sometimes: set the rect of this stack to I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. Maybe. Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property inspector since typing "edit script of btn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
Just downloaded and tested and it works ok for me on Monterey. Terry From: use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Date: Monday, 21 February 2022 at 3:26 pm To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0? Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned I'm on Mac OS X Big Sur. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 6:21:01 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: > These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit) > under Windows 10 > > On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >> I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be >> working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just >> me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no >> response appears: >> >> put the number of cds >> put the number of cds of this stack >> put the number of cards of stack "mystack" >> the rect of stack "mystack" >> edit script of >> etc. >> >> This works sometimes: >> set the rect of this stack to >> >> I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. >> Maybe. >> >> Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do >> contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I >> can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or >> the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and >> since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property >> inspector since typing "edit script of btn > box does nothing. >> >> I've double-checked the Messages button in the toolbar and toggled it >> a few times, but no change. I tested on a couple of stacks in case it >> was stack-related. >> >> Just me? >> > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
Thanks for the reply. I should have mentioned I'm on Mac OS X Big Sur. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On February 20, 2022 6:21:01 PM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit) under Windows 10 On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no response appears: put the number of cds put the number of cds of this stack put the number of cards of stack "mystack" the rect of stack "mystack" edit script of etc. This works sometimes: set the rect of this stack to I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. Maybe. Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property inspector since typing "edit script of btn ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Message box failure in 10.0.0?
These are working for me in the message box under LC 10.0.0dp2 (64bit) under Windows 10 On 2/20/2022 6:48 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no response appears: put the number of cds put the number of cds of this stack put the number of cards of stack "mystack" the rect of stack "mystack" edit script of etc. This works sometimes: set the rect of this stack to I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. Maybe. Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property inspector since typing "edit script of btn box does nothing. I've double-checked the Messages button in the toolbar and toggled it a few times, but no change. I tested on a couple of stacks in case it was stack-related. Just me? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Message box failure in 10.0.0?
I'm trying out LC 10.0.0dp2 and the message box doesn't seem to be working. I'm just checking here before I report it, in case it's just me. None of the following work, the message box doesn't error but no response appears: put the number of cds put the number of cds of this stack put the number of cards of stack "mystack" the rect of stack "mystack" edit script of etc. This works sometimes: set the rect of this stack to I'm not positive but it seems that "put" isn't working but "set" does. Maybe. Also, keyboard shortcuts do not open the script editor, nor do contextual menus show when Cmd-Control-Shift clicking. The only way I can currently get to scripts is via the property inspector button or the Objects menu. Cmd-opt-click doesn't open scripts of controls, and since those aren't in the Object menu I need to use the property inspector since typing "edit script of btn I've double-checked the Messages button in the toolbar and toggled it a few times, but no change. I tested on a couple of stacks in case it was stack-related. Just me? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
