Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 08/03/2017 02:58 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: > > tsk, tsk. >> >> Alcohol and math don't mix: don't drink and derive! >> > > They do, but then you end up with fuzzy logic. > > Or the swine and coswine functions, which came when a group at a math convention, with some help from Bachus, started playing with trigonometry and the unit square (rather than circle or hyperbola). It turned out that many of the basic relations shared by trig and h-trig functions still applied . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On 08/03/2017 02:58 PM, Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode wrote: tsk, tsk. Alcohol and math don't mix: don't drink and derive! They do, but then you end up with fuzzy logic. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
Erdős is considered one of the most prolific mathematicians of the 20th century. His most famous quote is 'a mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems'. He drank a lot of coffee. He also took a lot of amphetamines. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Aug 2017, at 23:23, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Now we know how new math came to be. > > >>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 13:53 , Monte Goulding via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 4 Aug 2017, at 6:38 am, hh via use-livecode wrote: Monte wrote: ... G&T drinking holiday ;-) >>> >>> Practising Geometry & Trigonometry and drinking?? >> >> Yeah I know… crazy mathematicians! What can you do. >> >> Cheers >> >> Monte > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:38 PM, hh via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Monte wrote: > > ... G&T drinking holiday ;-) > tsk, tsk. Alcohol and math don't mix: don't drink and derive! [*duck*] -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
Now we know how new math came to be. > On Aug 3, 2017, at 13:53 , Monte Goulding via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> On 4 Aug 2017, at 6:38 am, hh via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >>> Monte wrote: >>> ... G&T drinking holiday ;-) >> >> Practising Geometry & Trigonometry and drinking?? > > Yeah I know… crazy mathematicians! What can you do. > > Cheers > > Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
> On 4 Aug 2017, at 6:38 am, hh via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Monte wrote: >> ... G&T drinking holiday ;-) > > Practising Geometry & Trigonometry and drinking?? Yeah I know… crazy mathematicians! What can you do. Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
> Monte wrote: > ... G&T drinking holiday ;-) Practising Geometry & Trigonometry and drinking?? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
> On 4 Aug 2017, at 6:16 am, Monte Goulding via use-livecode > wrote: > > They probably should be deprecated. I have started some internal discussion about this. There’s mouseStillDown as well. I think they shouldn’t be in the handler list as they may not be deprecated but are certainly not recommended. We will see what Mark thinks when he’s back from his G&T drinking holiday ;-) or not as he seems to be responding to lots of things anyway! Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > A better mouseWithin would be something like this: > > local sMouseWithin = false > > on mouseEnter >put true into sMouseWithin > end mouseEnter > that would take some serious work on mouseEnter and mouseLeave, I think. I've been finding them "less than reliable" (particularly, mouseEnter seems to be able to fire in a new group in a way that prevents mouseLeave from hitting the old when the mouse its moving quickly) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
> On 3 Aug 2017, at 10:54 pm, dunbarx via use-livecode > wrote: > > Note: If there is no mouseWithin handler in the target object's script, no > mouseWithin message is sent, even if there is a mouseWithin handler in an > object that's further along the message path. > > Why this should be so is a mystery, but maybe someone from the team will > chime in. This is the case with the idle handler as well. These are very inefficient and would basically bog down the message path if they traversed the it for every object on every cycle. They probably should be deprecated. A better mouseWithin would be something like this: local sMouseWithin = false on mouseEnter put true into sMouseWithin end mouseEnter on mouseLeave put false into sMouseWithin end mouseLeave Or just handle mouseMove instead of mouseWithin. Cheers Monte ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
This changed in LC 9dp8 and default handlers are no longer inserted, to avoid just this issue. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On August 3, 2017 10:45:06 AM dunbarx via use-livecode wrote: yes, that was the problem craig. So need to remove that manually... Well, maybe, if you accidentally compiled that script. But all new buttons contain the uncompiled "head start" handler, so you can ignore them as a rule. I do, but have, now and then accidentally compiled, and had to track down issues like you did. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/MouseDown-sent-to-button-in-group-but-MouseUp-sent-to-card-tp4717935p4717959.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
>yes, that was the problem craig. So need to remove that manually... Well, maybe, if you accidentally compiled that script. But all new buttons contain the uncompiled "head start" handler, so you can ignore them as a rule. I do, but have, now and then accidentally compiled, and had to track down issues like you did. Craig -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/MouseDown-sent-to-button-in-group-but-MouseUp-sent-to-card-tp4717935p4717959.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 AM, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Note: If there is no mouseWithin handler in the target object's script, no > mouseWithin message is sent, even if there is a mouseWithin handler in an > object that's further along the message path. > > Why this should be so is a mystery, but maybe someone from the team will > chime in. > I've always assumed that that and similar case was due to the performance penalty for checking and sending messages on older machines; I think that mouseWithin dates to hypercard which ran on 8mhz 16 bit processors . . . -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
On 3 August 2017 at 14:47, dunbarx via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I feel a bit dumb. yes, there was an empty mouseup handler in the buttons. > So that is fixed. > > > Be careful in that a newly created button will, by default, have an > uncompiled mouseUp handler pre-installed. It is not "applied" as of yet, > but > its "text' appears in the script of the button. Such a construct is > included > as a head start for the most common handler in button scripts. > > yes, that was the problem craig. So need to remove that manually... > Craig Newman > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution. > 278305.n4.nabble.com/MouseDown-sent-to-button-in- > group-but-MouseUp-sent-to-card-tp4717935p4717949.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Kaveh Bazargan Director River Valley Technologies @kaveh1000 +44 7771 824 111 www.rivervalleytechnologies.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
I feel a bit dumb. yes, there was an empty mouseup handler in the buttons. So that is fixed. Be careful in that a newly created button will, by default, have an uncompiled mouseUp handler pre-installed. It is not "applied" as of yet, but its "text' appears in the script of the button. Such a construct is included as a head start for the most common handler in button scripts. Craig Newman -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/MouseDown-sent-to-button-in-group-but-MouseUp-sent-to-card-tp4717935p4717949.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
Hi. This is an anomalous (in my opinion) behavior of the "mouseWithin" message. >From the dictionary: Note: If there is no mouseWithin handler in the target object's script, no mouseWithin message is sent, even if there is a mouseWithin handler in an object that's further along the message path. Why this should be so is a mystery, but maybe someone from the team will chime in. Craig Newman -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/MouseDown-sent-to-button-in-group-but-MouseUp-sent-to-card-tp4717935p4717947.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
I feel a bit dumb. yes, there was an empty mouseup handler in the buttons. So that is fixed. Now for mousewithin... Having mousewithin in the stack script does not work unless I put: on mousewithin pass mousewithin end mousewithin in the button. What is the explanation for that? On 3 August 2017 at 12:55, Randy Hengst via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I’d start by double-checking that there is a mouseUp handler in the > button. If there isn’t, then the mouseUp will move to the group… if no > mouseUp in the group it will move to the card. > > be well, > randy > > > On Aug 3, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > I have buttons in a group. When I click any button, the mousedown message > > is received by the button correctly but mouseup is received by card. > Also I > > believe mousewithin. > > > > How can I get the button to be the target for all? > > > > My script is in the stack > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > -- > > Kaveh Bazargan > > Director > > River Valley Technologies > > @kaveh1000 > > +44 7771 824 111 > > www.rivervalleytechnologies.com > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Kaveh Bazargan Director River Valley Technologies @kaveh1000 +44 7771 824 111 www.rivervalleytechnologies.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
I’d start by double-checking that there is a mouseUp handler in the button. If there isn’t, then the mouseUp will move to the group… if no mouseUp in the group it will move to the card. be well, randy > On Aug 3, 2017, at 5:10 AM, Kaveh Bazargan via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have buttons in a group. When I click any button, the mousedown message > is received by the button correctly but mouseup is received by card. Also I > believe mousewithin. > > How can I get the button to be the target for all? > > My script is in the stack > > Thanks. > > > > -- > Kaveh Bazargan > Director > River Valley Technologies > @kaveh1000 > +44 7771 824 111 > www.rivervalleytechnologies.com > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
MouseDown sent to button in group, but MouseUp sent to card
I have buttons in a group. When I click any button, the mousedown message is received by the button correctly but mouseup is received by card. Also I believe mousewithin. How can I get the button to be the target for all? My script is in the stack Thanks. -- Kaveh Bazargan Director River Valley Technologies @kaveh1000 +44 7771 824 111 www.rivervalleytechnologies.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
