Re: OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-10 Thread Matt Maier
I think the stuff I read about crash-only said that it's normally implemented in a hierarchy. So you try to restart little processes. If they come back up and work correctly then nothing else is affected. If they don't, then you crash the larger process. And so on. On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:27 PM,

OT: Switch it off and back on

2016-08-09 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, I've always been in favour of this practice, without questioning why ! I run an old version lof LiveCode (5.5). Quite often, I save a modified version of my stack, and then try to Quit LiveCode. I get the same message asking me to Save or Cancel, and LiveCode is now

Re: OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-09 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 09/08/2016 06:08, Matt Maier wrote: Because we're capable of building systems more complex than we can understand. So there are always ghost states it can get into that we didn't prepare for. I was reading about "crash only" programming a while ago. It like using the "turn it off and back

Re: OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Matt Maier wrote: > I was reading about "crash only" programming a while ago. It like > using the "turn it off and back on again"approach as a part of normal > business. Since all of your systems need to be able to recover from a > crash anyway, why bother programming a graceful shutdown? Just

Re: OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-08 Thread Matt Maier
Because we're capable of building systems more complex than we can understand. So there are always ghost states it can get into that we didn't prepare for. I was reading about "crash only" programming a while ago. It like using the "turn it off and back on again"approach as a part of normal

Re: OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > Why can't we build tech items that don't suffer such problems and get fixed > by this solution > Well God couldn't do it with all his creations but instead ensured there was an impossible to ignore signal of when to

OT: Switch it off and back on ...

2016-08-08 Thread Alex Tweedly
My wife is always annoyed / amused that my stock response to any non-trivial computer / broadband / phone problem is the magic "power-cycle" method. As she says "4 years getting a BSc in Computer Science, 25 years in the electronics design and software business - and that's the best you can