On 29/01/13 11:35, Heather Laine wrote:
Dear List Members,
We are hugely excited to be launching this project today:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode
Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open for
everybody to
Well I think that's probably the most expensive shirt I'll ever buy but I can't
wait to get it.
Good work RunRev!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode
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Dear Heather,
This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this would
be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open source means
free (as in free speech) for everyone, including professionals. Are you using
your own version of the GPL?
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Dual license. See MySQL for an example of this. Free for everyone, but
needs commercial license for commercial use. No need for a seperate version
of the GPL, it's dual licensed.
PS: professionals are probably able to use it for free under GPL3 as well
as long as they release their source code
Hi Mark,
It is GPL3, we are not modifying the license. It will be free for a wide
variety of professional uses (e.g. in house software) but there are some
you will need to pay for, such as creating closed source software to sell
or accessing technical support. See the FAQ page link on the
On 29/01/2013, at 8:52 PM, Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com
wrote:
This sound really, really interesting. Could you please explain how this
would be free for everyone except professionals under GPL 3? AFAIK, open
source means free (as in free speech) for everyone,
Dear Mark,
We will be offering a dual license. You can use the GPL license and release
your source code, or you can purchase a commercial license and continue to
publish closed source apps.
Regards,
Heather
On 29 Jan 2013, at 09:52, Mark Schonewille wrote:
Dear Heather,
This sound
2013 10:36
An: How to use LiveCode
Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear List Members,
We are hugely excited to be launching this project today:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-
livecode
Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode
Betreff: Open Source LiveCode Project
Dear List Members,
We are hugely excited to be launching this project today:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-
livecode
Join our campaign to make a full version of LiveCode that is free and open
for everybody
A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside
the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can go
back in and adjust it.
Just a thought... @RunRev have you considered having pickup at the conference
as an option?
Cheers
Monte
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We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just
drop us a line if that's what you want to do.
Kind regards,
Kevin
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LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App
On 29/01/2013 10:36, Monte Goulding
Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours
isn't in it?
On 29.01.2013, at 11:36, Monte Goulding wrote:
A little warning folks. You need to manually add the shipping if your outside
the UK. Kickstarter doesn't do it for you. If you've already pledged you can
On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours
isn't in it?
Lol.. Taswhere?
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On 29.01.2013, at 11:44, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 29/01/2013, at 9:43 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours
isn't in it?
Lol.. Taswhere?
I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit
On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and yours
isn't in it?
Lol.. Taswhere?
I'm sorry, i didn't catch what you meant, can you elaborate a bit more?
I live in Tasmania...
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Localisation based on ip address is notoriously hard and failure prone. There's
no telling which IP will be recognized correctly, which will be miss-placed and
which will be unrecogised. That is also why I hate auto-redirects based on
locality so much (besides the fact that they create walled
On 29/01/2013, at 9:46 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
There is a fee that is automatically added to your pledge, that is identical
in amount to the shipping cost. If goodies can be picked up in Edinburgh then
I guess that amount could be removed from your pledge. Would be funny
Thanks Kevin, that's good to know.
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Dear Kevin, Heather and Team,
Just to say : thanks for being able to purpose this strategic and very
courageous double-license paradigm orientation. An announced great success at
work. Makes me, again and again, so proud the belong to this incredibly
creative dev community. Back to you after
News from France :
http://www.mac4ever.com/actu/77182_l-outil-de-developpement-livecode-bientot-en-open-source
Le 29 janv. 2013 à 11:40, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com a écrit :
We haven't put it in but I don't see any reason not to allow that - just
drop us a line if that's what you want to
We are hugely excited to be launching this project today:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode
Hey folks,
For existing customers, what is the effective date for requiring that
an application be released open sourced versus commercial as usual?
Also,
Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term.
Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more
details in the FAQ http://runrev.com/home/ks1/?preview
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
LiveCode: Unleash Your
What about this (see the *bold* area)? I have a commercial license. From
what I remember when I purchased it I could create, edit applications and
distribute applications for as long as I wanted UNTIL I decided to upgrade.
See below.
The commercial version will be available as an annual
Thank you very much for the prompt reply, Kevin,
...however, I'm not quite sure that the FAQ addresses my concern, or
at least it still seems a bit unclear.
From the FAQ:
We will continue to honor your existing license terms until its
expiry date. Once it expires you will be invited to renew with
Dear David,
What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license,
under our existing perpetual license EULA, that EULA applies to that license.
You will always be able to build closed source apps using LiveCode 4.5 (as long
as you have hardware that will run it and its
I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode
complete. Will I get the updates I paid for to the new commercial
license for that time period?
regards,
Andrew Kluthe
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:
Dear David,
What you own is
Thank you very much, Heather!
...that is simple and plain enough.
Regards,
David C.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:
Dear David,
What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license,
under our existing perpetual license EULA, that
Heather, that answered my question too, however my license is 5.5, which
was purchased June 1st, 2012.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:
Dear David,
What you own is yours. If you have purchased (say) a LiveCode 4.5 license,
under our existing
That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially
software rental, the perpetual license is just that - perpetual.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App
On 29/01/2013 15:08, Shawn Blc
If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer pay as you go
licenses, it never expires.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App
On 29/01/2013 15:09, David C. davidoco...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you very
What happens if you did a change of license? Like, if I was perpetual up to
version 5.5, but pay as you go from 5.5.1, would I be able to use 5.5, but not
5.5.1?
On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Kevin Miller ke...@runrev.com wrote:
If it is a perpetual license, as opposed to one of the newer
Yes absolutely.
Kind regards,
Kevin
Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/
LiveCode: Unleash Your Killer App
On 29/01/2013 15:29, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote:
I had just paid for three years of commercial updates to livecode
complete. Will I get the updates I paid
Wow, this will teach me to go to sleep! Kevin, Heather, everyone at runrev
THANK YOU! I'll be seeing what I can scrounge up to help, and will point
the 1 other person I know who might be interested towards the website.
Thanks!
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Erm. The question as it stands does not compute Colin :). You can't have 5.5
and not 5.5.1, you always get those minor releases with your major version.
However, if we rephrase it, suppose you had a perpetual 5.0 license, but then
instead of updating it purchased a PAYG license, what would
Dear List Members,
We are hugely excited to be launching this project today:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode
To the RunRev team and community,
Unless something significant changes in the next few days, current
circumstances will not allow me
Won't the $499 a year still effectively be a pay as you go license?
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Heather Laine heat...@runrev.com wrote:
We will be discontinuing the PAYG license types once we go dual license, so
no new purchases of this will be possible.
I hear the devil's from there. groan
Bob
On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:48 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 29/01/2013, at 9:45 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
Weird, it added it for me.. it probably has a db of ip-locations, and
yours isn't in it?
Lol.. Taswhere?
I'm sorry, i
There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of those??
Bob
On Jan 29, 2013, at 6:52 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:
Yes existing licenses remain the same until the end of their term.
Existing perpetual licenses are just that - perpetual. You can see more
details in the FAQ
Oh never mind I already have that!! I thot it meant Lifetime Renewal! I would
probably have gone for that!
Bob
On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:32 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:
That's correct. Unlike the pay as you go licenses which are essentially
software rental, the perpetual license is just that -
If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome!
Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of
the largest funded KS project ever!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Robert Sneidar slylab...@me.com wrote:
Oh never mind I already have that!!
On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote:
If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome!
Being a little optimistic here --- Looking forward to being part of
the largest funded KS project ever!
uhm... just saying:
Björnke, it'd be awesome wouldn't it? Talking about being optimistic!!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote:
If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome!
Being a little
Is it like the perpetual care arrangements in cemeteries? Does that mean that
your descendants get updates forever?
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On Jan 29, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Robert Sneidar wrote:
There's a perpetual license?? How do I get one of
It's my experience in life that almost nothing is linear. It will be important
for all of us to get the word out (which I suppose we should have been doing
all along). I have posted on my Facebook page and alerted people at my (former)
place of employment.
Bob
On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM,
That is a pretty amazing watch! I want one!
Pete
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote:
On 29.01.2013, at 20:54, Shawn Blc wrote:
If we keep on this track our KS project will be over £700,000! Awesome!
Being a
Hi All,
I learned about this breaking News from a post made by Richard.
Now I have a question for Kevin:
Kevin, Did you know if it will be possible to translate the open source version
of LiveCode to other languages?
If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month
On 30/01/2013, at 10:37 AM, Alejandro Tejada wrote:
If so, then I would recommend to expand the Kickstarter deadline from 1 month
to
6 months to allow Universities and Educational Leaders around the
world to evaluate
the usefulness AND viability of porting LiveCode to their native
Hi Monte,
Monte Goulding wrote:
30 day campaigns are statistically more likely to
succeed apparently. By a small fraction.
I imagine that project might hang on the back
of the open language one. I'm imagining some
kind of syntax loader...
What if each function, command, handler, reserved
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