Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-24 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 08/02/2016 19:01, Devin Asay wrote: In the new toolbar, yes there are very clean and clear scalable icons, but when you change modes there is only one visual change—a small circle with slash appears atop the icon. Too me it’s nowhere near as clear that you’ve entered a “special” mode:

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-10 Thread RM
On 8.02.2016 22:09, RM wrote: Almost inevitably, I shall be spending a spot of time working on a "hack stack" so that end-users can change the revMenuBar icons to a variety of possibilities ;-) http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=26506=137728#p137728 I did warn you! Love,

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Roger Guay
I like yours better, Richard. Would you share your script with us? thanks, Roger > On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:11 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > So rather than require other people to design the LC menu bar to look how I > personally prefer it, I just made a short script

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Guay wrote: I like yours better, Richard. Would you share your script with us? Sure. It's a checkbox in my soon-to-be-released-once-I-finish-compatibility-with-v8 devolution toolkit - here's the script: on UbuntifyRevMenubar put the defaultStack into tSaveDS set the

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread AndyP
One of the great attributes of LiveCode is as the ide is written in LiveCode, it's really easy to hack. So changing the colour of the menu bar is a simple one liner. Set the backgroundColor of stack "revMenubar" to mycolor - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
On 8.02.2016 09:54, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 08/02/2016 06:31, RM wrote: Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this a blip? Yes, this is the new LiveCode 8 icon theme! We're really pleased with it. The new icons make it much clearer what each menu bar item

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Monday, February 8, 2016, RM wrote: > > > Could everybody who cares about this sort of thing indicate whether they > prefer the coloured icons > or the black ones? > Black ones. -- Trevor DeVore ___ use-livecode

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Democracy is useful for many things, but I'm not sure UI is among them. > In fact, I'd argue squarely against it for several reasons: > > How many in our audience are specialists in UI design? > > IMO this has

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
RM wrote: > ? > > Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this > a blip? I'm glad it's happened, and v8 is the right time for this to happen. The shift to monochrome icons has been a pervasive trend across the UI world for some years now, and I rather like how it

RE: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
in Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 10:11 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14 RM wrote: > ? > > Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this > a blip? I'm glad it's happened, and v8 is the right time for this to

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Antti Ilola
Nevermind 2016-02-08 14:18 GMT+02:00 Trevor DeVore : > On Monday, February 8, 2016, RM wrote: > > > > > > Could everybody who cares about this sort of thing indicate whether they > > prefer the coloured icons > > or the black ones? > > > >

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread [-hh]
black, lightgray, darkgray, white, red , yellow, blue and "102,255,204" :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
Do you mean "I don't have a preference" or something else? Richmond. On 8.02.2016 15:29, Antti Ilola wrote: Nevermind 2016-02-08 14:18 GMT+02:00 Trevor DeVore : On Monday, February 8, 2016, RM wrote: Could everybody who cares about

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
A hint or sarcasm there, methinks . . . Richmond. On 8.02.2016 15:37, [-hh] wrote: black, lightgray, darkgray, white, red , yellow, blue and "102,255,204" :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
On 8.02.2016 17:24, Ralph DiMola wrote: "This is one of those areas where meritocracy trumps democracy" In 1982 at Citibank we created a worldwide information product that had news/weather/stock prices/Commodity prices/FX rates(sound familiar?). We had many meeting on the UI and democracy

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Ali Lloyd
The label text of the menu buttons actually does go bold, but it seems to be an unfortunate feature of the system font on OSX (Yosemite onwards) that it either changes imperceptibly or not at all when bolded. I have noted it as something we should deal with.

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Devin Asay
> On Feb 8, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Ali Lloyd wrote: > > The label text of the menu buttons actually does go bold, but it seems to > be an unfortunate feature of the system font on OSX (Yosemite onwards) that > it either changes imperceptibly or not at all when bolded. I have

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
On 8.02.2016 17:11, Richard Gaskin wrote: RM wrote: > ? > > Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this > a blip? I'm glad it's happened, and v8 is the right time for this to happen. The shift to monochrome icons has been a pervasive trend across the UI world

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Roger Guay
You are always so kind. Thank you. > On Feb 8, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > Sure. It's a checkbox in my > soon-to-be-released-once-I-finish-compatibility-with-v8 devolution toolkit - > here's the script:

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
An interesting fact about the new, black icons, is not that they are black, but that they are NOT the previous coloured icons rendered in black, but entirely new designs (generally larger), and a lot of them have new names. Richmond. ___

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Devin Asay
> On Feb 8, 2016, at 12:54 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > On 08/02/2016 06:31, RM wrote: > >> Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this a >> blip? > > Yes, this is the new LiveCode 8 icon theme! We're really pleased with it. > The new

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread AndyP
Richard, you can make that 4! But i've always been a fan of dark themes. I like the monotone icons but agree with Devin that the active state needs to be more pronounced, maybe a subtle colour overlay on the button? - Andy Piddock My software never has bugs. It just develops random

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/8/2016 1:01 PM, Devin Asay wrote: RECOMMENDATION: At the very minimum, I would like to see the bolded icon label restored, and ideally another visual cue added to really shout to the user, “Hey, you’re in a special mode now! Pay attention because things will work a little differently until

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread RM
Almost inevitably, I shall be spending a spot of time working on a "hack stack" so that end-users can change the revMenuBar icons to a variety of possibilities ;-) http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9=26506=137728#p137728 I did warn you! Love, Richmond.

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Guay wrote: >> On Feb 8, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Sure. It's a checkbox in my soon-to-be-released-once-I-finish- >> compatibility-with-v8 devolution toolkit - here's the script: > > You are always so kind. Thank you. Thank, Roger. I'm jut tickled someone else finds

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
On 02/08/2016 11:25 AM, AndyP wrote: Richard, you can make that 4! But i've always been a fan of dark themes. I like the monotone icons but agree with Devin that the active state needs to be more pronounced, maybe a subtle colour overlay on the button? I'm not fond of the overly macho

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-08 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm seeing what I think is a related issue in the Script Editor. Not sure what font was used in the SE tabs prior to 8 DP14 but it was noticeably bold on the active tab. In DP14, the bold is hardly noticeable so I'm guessing it's using the system font and this is the same issue as with the

Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14

2016-02-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 08/02/2016 06:31, RM wrote: Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this a blip? Yes, this is the new LiveCode 8 icon theme! We're really pleased with it. The new icons make it much clearer what each menu bar item actually does, and they work much more nicely at