Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Gremlins. 

Bob S


> On May 9, 2017, at 20:02 , J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> How come things only fall apart when I'm in a crunch?
> 
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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 5/9/17 2:55 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

Here's what I found earlier with the preferences files:



Very helpful, thanks. It will save me some trouble next time. How come 
things only fall apart when I'm in a crunch?


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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 05/09/2017 12:55 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 05/09/2017 07:32 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:


I do still have an old pre-7 prefs file in the same folder as the new
one, since I need to open LC 6 occasionally. It may be that LC 9
couldn't read or update it so it just gave up.


Also... http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15857 appears to be 
the recycling bin^H^H^Hcentral repository for preferences file bugs.


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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[Mark Wieder via use-livecode]

On 05/09/2017 07:32 AM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:


I do still have an old pre-7 prefs file in the same folder as the new
one, since I need to open LC 6 occasionally. It may be that LC 9
couldn't read or update it so it just gave up.


Here's what I found earlier with the preferences files:

There's some incompatibility between the LC6 and LC7+ preference files, 
and afaict it hasn't been resolved yet. The problem is compounded by the 
fact that when you launch LC7+ without a livecode7.rev preferences file, 
it reads the older format and creates a new one for you. This file is 
incompatible with LC7+, and so you end up with undefined things 
happening. If you don't have a previous preferences file then when LC7+ 
creates a new one for you it doesn't have the problems.


So my way around this is:

delete the livecode7.rev preferences file
rename the livecode.rev preferences file to 
launch LC7+ -- this will create a new livecode7.rev file for you
rename the  file back to livecode.rev

you now have both livecode.rev and livecode7.rev files in your 
preferences folder, both will work with their respective versions, but 
of course you need to configure the LC7+ preferences because now they're 
all the defaults.


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RE: Unable to set breakpoint

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

I showed my location just in case it was relevant. My plugins are on Windows
10 SMB server raid array. I am also running LC on a Hyper-V VM.

Ralph DiMola
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Evergreen Information Services
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Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 1:16 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint

On 5/9/17 10:06 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> It would be interesting to know which Plugins you and Ralph have in
common.

Only one, LiveCode Error Lookup, which does nothing until you manually open
it. I've got these:

4W_FlightRecorder.rev
4W_gzipper.livecode
AirLaunch.livecode
cbfResTool.livecode
Color Names.rev
Go_LiveNet.livecode
Improve LiveCode Handler Finder.livecode keydowner.livecode LiveCode Error
Lookup.livecode objFormats.rev revapplicationoverview.rev -- copied here to
fix a bug Script Manager.mc Shell_Command_Help.rev SVGExtractPath.livecode
Titler.rev tmControl2.livecode Umbrellaman.livecode

I could clean out some of those, I don't use most of them. But since they
don't overlap with Ralph's list I doubt they're the problem.

One thing he and I both do is move our LC user extensions folder to a
nonstandard location. Mine is in my Dropbox folder so that changes will sync
and load from any computer.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

On 5/9/17 10:06 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

It would be interesting to know which Plugins you and Ralph have in common.


Only one, LiveCode Error Lookup, which does nothing until you manually 
open it. I've got these:


4W_FlightRecorder.rev
4W_gzipper.livecode
AirLaunch.livecode
cbfResTool.livecode
Color Names.rev
Go_LiveNet.livecode
Improve LiveCode Handler Finder.livecode
keydowner.livecode
LiveCode Error Lookup.livecode
objFormats.rev
revapplicationoverview.rev -- copied here to fix a bug
Script Manager.mc
Shell_Command_Help.rev
SVGExtractPath.livecode
Titler.rev
tmControl2.livecode
Umbrellaman.livecode

I could clean out some of those, I don't use most of them. But since 
they don't overlap with Ralph's list I doubt they're the problem.


One thing he and I both do is move our LC user extensions folder to a 
nonstandard location. Mine is in my Dropbox folder so that changes will 
sync and load from any computer.


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RE: Unable to set breakpoint

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Mine...

Directory of N:\My LiveCode\Plugins

11/01/2016  09:29 AM 3,709 4wSetStackFileVersion.livecode
03/27/2017  07:33 PM   129,223 AndroidRemoteTesterClient.livecode
10/21/2012  11:35 AM   263,200 animationEngine.livecode
03/15/2017  07:04 PM17,343 DB_Library.livecode
03/15/2017  07:07 PM  Disabled
05/02/2017  06:04 PM93,352 EIS_Library-01.livecode
04/21/2016  04:33 PM18,041 FastJson.livecode
11/01/2016  09:29 AM   863 GoogleMapsAPI.livecodescript
12/09/2013  12:30 PM 1,382,022 lcStackBrowser.livecode
10/17/2012  12:48 AM 1,030,875 lcStackDiff.livecode
08/07/2012  11:55 PM   108,487 lcTaskList.livecode
11/18/2014  07:16 PM42,230 LiveCode Error Lookup.livecode
01/22/2016  12:15 AM   831,403 MasterLibrary.livecode
03/15/2017  07:06 PM33,700 OnRevLibrary.livecode
05/01/2017  06:58 PM   117,335
PlaceControls_Geometry_Library.livecode
03/15/2017  07:07 PM 4,068 Postal_Library.livecode
12/13/2012  04:45 PM30,252 SetLocals.livecode

Ralph DiMola
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 11:07 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: panagiotis merakos
Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint

I had LC 6 Prefs too, but did not have that problem :(

It would be interesting to know which Plugins you and Ralph have in common.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It sounds like both Ralph and I have LC 6 prefs installed. The 
> difference is that he can eventually start up correctly.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2017 8:35:36 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < 
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for chiming in, Ralph.
>>
>> And I was just trying to remember where I had seen this "small blank 
>> stack at the top left" being mentioned!
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < 
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> "LC now freezes with the logo window displayed and a small blank 
>> stack at
>>> the top left of the monitor" I reported this behavior in bug 19344 
>>> on Windows if you delete all your prefs. I found that if you stop 
>>> the process and re-launch, LC will open. This happens every time I 
>>> delete/rename all the pref files. Also after you delete/rename the 
>>> v8 prefs if you still have
>>> v6/v7 prefs they are brought forward to v8. You can't save the 
>>> location of the master IDE bar in v8. I found that if I set it in v6 
>>> and delete the
>>> v8
>>> prefs the that position if brought forward to v8.
>>>
>>> Back to bug 19344... Panos thinks that it might be one of my 
>>> plugins(I have many). I need to follow up on the QC report and see 
>>> if it's one of my plugins. I've just been busy... I will try to get 
>>> to it this week.
>>>
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:03 PM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode
>>> Cc: J. Landman Gay
>>> Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint
>>>
>>> Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the 
>>> logo window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the 
>>> monitor (looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch
now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>> > Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < 
>>> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot 
>>> >> breakpoints are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled 
>>> >> (it has, several
>>> >> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I 
>>> >> am

RE: Unable to set breakpoint

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

Same here... no IDE at all.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net


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Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 10:32 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint

Panos, it wasn't just the tools palette, there was no IDE at all. There were
no menus except for the default OS X one that allowed me to quit. 
Nothing else loaded, so no message box, tools, keyboard shortcuts, etc. It
acted like the startup aborted very early in the process. But the odd thing
was that the start center did appear and when it tried to lead me through
the tutorial it pointed to places on screen where the nonexistent menus
would have been. I was able to open my own stack only by dropping it on the
dock since there was no File menu to use. But without any menus, app or
project browsers, or tools I couldn't actually do anything with it. The
entire IDE was missing.

I do still have an old pre-7 prefs file in the same folder as the new one,
since I need to open LC 6 occasionally. It may be that LC 9 couldn't read or
update it so it just gave up.

I only have one monitor, and the startup didn't get far enough to load any
plugins.

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On May 9, 2017 4:06:33 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Jacque,
>
> I have never seen the Tools palette disappearing after deleting my Prefs.
> Could it be the case that it appeared, but offscreen? Have you 
> connected a secondary monitor? Are you using any Plugins?
>
> Anyway, I am glad the problem is solved now. If you see that again 
> could you please file a bug report?
>
> BTW, I remember in the past, all of a sudden I could not launch *any* 
> version of LiveCode. I tried to delete my Prefs but this did not help.
>
> What fixed the problem was deleting the folder 
> /Users/panos/Libarary/Saved Application 
> State/com.runrev.livecode.savedState/
>
> Best,
> Panos
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < 
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay, restoring prefs from yesterday worked. Major panic averted.
>>
>> But there is something very wrong with a clean startup.
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/17 4:13 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> Panos, I need to get this running. I've tried launching dp5 with the 
>>> same results. If I restore my old prefs, I can't set breakpoints but 
>>> I do get the IDE to load. If I let LC make new prefs, I get no IDE 
>>> at all and my only option is to quit.
>>>
>>> On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < 
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot 
>>>> breakpoints
>>>>> are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, 
>>>>> several
>>>>> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I 
>>>>> am not able to debug.
>>>>>
>>>>> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. 
>>>>> That worked for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and 
>>>>> now I can't set breakpoints.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>>>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>>>>
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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

I had LC 6 Prefs too, but did not have that problem :(

It would be interesting to know which Plugins you and Ralph have in common.

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:02 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> It sounds like both Ralph and I have LC 6 prefs installed. The difference
> is that he can eventually start up correctly.
>
> --
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2017 8:35:36 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for chiming in, Ralph.
>>
>> And I was just trying to remember where I had seen this "small blank stack
>> at the top left" being mentioned!
>>
>> Best,
>> Panos
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>
>> "LC now freezes with the logo window displayed and a small blank stack at
>>> the top left of the monitor" I reported this behavior in bug 19344 on
>>> Windows if you delete all your prefs. I found that if you stop the
>>> process
>>> and re-launch, LC will open. This happens every time I delete/rename all
>>> the
>>> pref files. Also after you delete/rename the v8 prefs if you still have
>>> v6/v7 prefs they are brought forward to v8. You can't save the location
>>> of
>>> the master IDE bar in v8. I found that if I set it in v6 and delete the
>>> v8
>>> prefs the that position if brought forward to v8.
>>>
>>> Back to bug 19344... Panos thinks that it might be one of my plugins(I
>>> have
>>> many). I need to follow up on the QC report and see if it's one of my
>>> plugins. I've just been busy... I will try to get to it this week.
>>>
>>> Ralph DiMola
>>> IT Director
>>> Evergreen Information Services
>>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
>>> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:03 PM
>>> To: How to use LiveCode
>>> Cc: J. Landman Gay
>>> Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint
>>>
>>> Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo
>>> window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor
>>> (looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>> > Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>>> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot
>>> >> breakpoints are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it
>>> >> has, several
>>> >> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am
>>> >> not able to debug.
>>> >>
>>> >> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
>>> >> worked for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I
>>> >> can't set breakpoints.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
>>> >>
>>> >> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>>> >> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>> >>
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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

It sounds like both Ralph and I have LC 6 prefs installed. The difference 
is that he can eventually start up correctly.


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On May 9, 2017 8:35:36 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:



Thanks for chiming in, Ralph.

And I was just trying to remember where I had seen this "small blank stack
at the top left" being mentioned!

Best,
Panos
--



On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


"LC now freezes with the logo window displayed and a small blank stack at
the top left of the monitor" I reported this behavior in bug 19344 on
Windows if you delete all your prefs. I found that if you stop the process
and re-launch, LC will open. This happens every time I delete/rename all
the
pref files. Also after you delete/rename the v8 prefs if you still have
v6/v7 prefs they are brought forward to v8. You can't save the location of
the master IDE bar in v8. I found that if I set it in v6 and delete the v8
prefs the that position if brought forward to v8.

Back to bug 19344... Panos thinks that it might be one of my plugins(I have
many). I need to follow up on the QC report and see if it's one of my
plugins. I've just been busy... I will try to get to it this week.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:03 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo
window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor
(looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.


On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot
>> breakpoints are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it
>> has, several
>> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am
>> not able to debug.
>>
>> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
>> worked for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I
>> can't set breakpoints.
>>
>> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
>>
>> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
>>
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>
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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Panos, it wasn't just the tools palette, there was no IDE at all. There 
were no menus except for the default OS X one that allowed me to quit. 
Nothing else loaded, so no message box, tools, keyboard shortcuts, etc. It 
acted like the startup aborted very early in the process. But the odd thing 
was that the start center did appear and when it tried to lead me through 
the tutorial it pointed to places on screen where the nonexistent menus 
would have been. I was able to open my own stack only by dropping it on the 
dock since there was no File menu to use. But without any menus, app or 
project browsers, or tools I couldn't actually do anything with it. The 
entire IDE was missing.


I do still have an old pre-7 prefs file in the same folder as the new one, 
since I need to open LC 6 occasionally. It may be that LC 9 couldn't read 
or update it so it just gave up.


I only have one monitor, and the startup didn't get far enough to load any 
plugins.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com



On May 9, 2017 4:06:33 AM panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Hi Jacque,

I have never seen the Tools palette disappearing after deleting my Prefs.
Could it be the case that it appeared, but offscreen? Have you connected a
secondary monitor? Are you using any Plugins?

Anyway, I am glad the problem is solved now. If you see that again could
you please file a bug report?

BTW, I remember in the past, all of a sudden I could not launch *any*
version of LiveCode. I tried to delete my Prefs but this did not help.

What fixed the problem was deleting the folder /Users/panos/Libarary/Saved
Application State/com.runrev.livecode.savedState/

Best,
Panos
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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
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Okay, restoring prefs from yesterday worked. Major panic averted.

But there is something very wrong with a clean startup.


On 5/8/17 4:13 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:


Panos, I need to get this running. I've tried launching dp5 with the
same results. If I restore my old prefs, I can't set breakpoints but I
do get the IDE to load. If I let LC make new prefs, I get no IDE at all
and my only option is to quit.

On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:


Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints

are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
able to debug.

Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
worked
for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
breakpoints.

I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Thanks for chiming in, Ralph.

And I was just trying to remember where I had seen this "small blank stack
at the top left" being mentioned!

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On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
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> "LC now freezes with the logo window displayed and a small blank stack at
> the top left of the monitor" I reported this behavior in bug 19344 on
> Windows if you delete all your prefs. I found that if you stop the process
> and re-launch, LC will open. This happens every time I delete/rename all
> the
> pref files. Also after you delete/rename the v8 prefs if you still have
> v6/v7 prefs they are brought forward to v8. You can't save the location of
> the master IDE bar in v8. I found that if I set it in v6 and delete the v8
> prefs the that position if brought forward to v8.
>
> Back to bug 19344... Panos thinks that it might be one of my plugins(I have
> many). I need to follow up on the QC report and see if it's one of my
> plugins. I've just been busy... I will try to get to it this week.
>
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On
> Behalf
> Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:03 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: J. Landman Gay
> Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint
>
> Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo
> window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor
> (looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.
>
>
> On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> > Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
> >
> > On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot
> >> breakpoints are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it
> >> has, several
> >> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am
> >> not able to debug.
> >>
> >> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
> >> worked for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I
> >> can't set breakpoints.
> >>
> >> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
> >>
> >> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
> >>
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RE: Unable to set breakpoint

[Ralph DiMola via use-livecode]

"LC now freezes with the logo window displayed and a small blank stack at
the top left of the monitor" I reported this behavior in bug 19344 on
Windows if you delete all your prefs. I found that if you stop the process
and re-launch, LC will open. This happens every time I delete/rename all the
pref files. Also after you delete/rename the v8 prefs if you still have
v6/v7 prefs they are brought forward to v8. You can't save the location of
the master IDE bar in v8. I found that if I set it in v6 and delete the v8
prefs the that position if brought forward to v8. 

Back to bug 19344... Panos thinks that it might be one of my plugins(I have
many). I need to follow up on the QC report and see if it's one of my
plugins. I've just been busy... I will try to get to it this week.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 5:03 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: Unable to set breakpoint

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo
window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor
(looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.


On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < 
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot 
>> breakpoints are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it 
>> has, several
>> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am 
>> not able to debug.
>>
>> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That 
>> worked for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I 
>> can't set breakpoints.
>>
>> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
>>
>> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
>>
>> --
>> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
>> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
>>
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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[panagiotis merakos via use-livecode]

Hi Jacque,

I have never seen the Tools palette disappearing after deleting my Prefs.
Could it be the case that it appeared, but offscreen? Have you connected a
secondary monitor? Are you using any Plugins?

Anyway, I am glad the problem is solved now. If you see that again could
you please file a bug report?

BTW, I remember in the past, all of a sudden I could not launch *any*
version of LiveCode. I tried to delete my Prefs but this did not help.

What fixed the problem was deleting the folder /Users/panos/Libarary/Saved
Application State/com.runrev.livecode.savedState/

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On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:16 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Okay, restoring prefs from yesterday worked. Major panic averted.
>
> But there is something very wrong with a clean startup.
>
>
> On 5/8/17 4:13 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> Panos, I need to get this running. I've tried launching dp5 with the
>> same results. If I restore my old prefs, I can't set breakpoints but I
>> do get the IDE to load. If I let LC make new prefs, I get no IDE at all
>> and my only option is to quit.
>>
>> On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried deleting your Prefs?
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
 are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
 times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
 able to debug.

 Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
 worked
 for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
 breakpoints.

 I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

 I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Okay, restoring prefs from yesterday worked. Major panic averted.

But there is something very wrong with a clean startup.

On 5/8/17 4:13 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

Panos, I need to get this running. I've tried launching dp5 with the
same results. If I restore my old prefs, I can't set breakpoints but I
do get the IDE to load. If I let LC make new prefs, I get no IDE at all
and my only option is to quit.

On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
able to debug.

Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
worked
for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
breakpoints.

I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Panos, I need to get this running. I've tried launching dp5 with the 
same results. If I restore my old prefs, I can't set breakpoints but I 
do get the IDE to load. If I let LC make new prefs, I get no IDE at all 
and my only option is to quit.


On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
able to debug.

Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That worked
for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
breakpoints.

I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Restarted again and LC proceeded to the welcome screen. I clicked "open 
existing project" and my stack loaded. There are no menus, no tool 
palette, basically the IDE didn't load.


On 5/8/17 4:03 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo
window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor
(looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.


On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
able to debug.

Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That
worked
for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
breakpoints.

I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

[J. Landman Gay via use-livecode]

Thanks, I hadn't thought of that. I tried. LC now freezes with the logo 
window displayed and a small blank stack at the top left of the monitor 
(looks like a livecodescript trying to open.) So, can't launch now.



On 5/8/17 3:55 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
able to debug.

Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That worked
for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
breakpoints.

I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.

I need a quick solution. Real quick.

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Re: Unable to set breakpoint

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Have you tried deleting your Prefs?

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Suddenly I have lost the ability to set breakpoints. Red-dot breakpoints
> are dimmed as though the script has not been compiled (it has, several
> times.) Hard-coded "breakpoint" commands to not trigger either. I am not
> able to debug.
>
> Things were going along well until I allowed remote debugging. That worked
> for a while, then I got several crashes in a row, and now I can't set
> breakpoints.
>
> I have retarted LC several times, reloaded the stack, etc. LC 9 dp 6.
>
> I need a quick solution. Real quick.
>
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