Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-14 Thread Rick Harrison via use-livecode
Hi Colin, It’s nice to know they have set up a nice way of handling things. Two questions come to mind though: 1. Can hackers get around the method they are using? 2. Should we really believe that they are doing what they say they are doing, or are they really listening all the time,

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-14 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
I frequently get targeted ads after just having off-line conversations. They ARE listening! On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Colin Holgate via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I was at Google for meetings last week, some of which was with the Google > Home and also

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-14 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
I was at Google for meetings last week, some of which was with the Google Home and also Assistant teams. They have the same need as Siri, and I imagine that they solve the problem in the same way. For Google, they are always listening for “ok google”, and Apple are listening for “hey Siri”.

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If Apple was doing data collection via Siri always on and feeding the data to Amazon, that would be a huge news story. Americans would FREAK OUT! Bob S > On Nov 10, 2017, at 19:18 , Kay C Lan via use-livecode > wrote: > > I have an iPhone with Siri usually

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-10 Thread Kay C Lan via use-livecode
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:23 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > > But there's no question that all voice-activated systems (Apple's Siri, > Amazon's Alexa, Microsoft's Corana, Google's voice navigation) must listen > at all times in order to be able to know

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-09 Thread hh via use-livecode
Perhaps you dreamed of Jeannie ;-) Was she there? (The NBC series was very popular in Germany, also in the 90's). ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
I would need to look, but I recall Apple making a big deal about Siri doing the wake up completely on device and not transmitting anything unless actually doing a query. This was around the time the 6 or 6S came out with the always listening option. (Of course I do occasionally wake her up

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:15 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > >> It wouldn't be possible for them to do what they do without an always-on >> mic connected to the Internet. > > Also true. But I suspect recognizing the wake up command can be done entirely

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Jim Lambert wrote: > RichardG wrote: >> >> But there's no question that all voice-activated systems (Apple's >> Siri, Amazon's Alexa, Microsoft's Corana, Google's voice navigation) >> must listen at all times in order to be able to know when you call >> them by name. > > True. > >> It wouldn't

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
RichardG wrote: > > But there's no question that all voice-activated systems (Apple's Siri, > Amazon's Alexa, Microsoft's Corana, Google's voice navigation) must > listen at all times in order to be able to know when you call them by > name. > True. > It wouldn't be possible for them to do

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Keith Martin via use-livecode
On 8 Nov 2017, at 10:25, prothero--- via use-livecode wrote: Admittedly, I was laying sick in bed at the time I suspect that may be the reason. I've heard (well, misheard) pretty weird stuff when I've been unwell enough to be bed-ridden. :) k --- Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:51 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > >> Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Zuckerberg keeps tape over his laptop camera. > If anyone by happenstance caught me on camera after a shower, I'm sure they would burn their own phone. :-) Bob S

RE: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
> Richard Gaskin wrote: >Zuckerberg keeps tape over his laptop camera. Who doesn't? I had mine on for so long that when I was a speaker at RR Global I had a heck of a time getting it off and cleaning the lenses. I also cover all mobile devices front facing camera. I keep the back facing one

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
My only contact with Alexa was at Christmas, 2 yrs ago. I don’t activate “hey, Siri” on any of my devices. I’ll have to check my Kindle Fire, tho but I’m pretty sure I didn’t turn it on. I’ll update this group if I find anything interesting. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
prothero wrote: > ...this did get me thinking about the spyware developed to listen in > on people’s smart phone microphone without the owner being logged in. > Especially by intelligence agencies, but who would be interested in a > retire Santa Barbara faculty member. I will get on

RE: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:04 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant Well if it's spyware, why would they announce themselves? Bob S > On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:51 , proth

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well if it's spyware, why would they announce themselves? Bob S > On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:51 , prothero--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob, > No I don’t. But this did get me thinking about the spyware developed to > listen in on people’s smart phone microphone

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Bob, No I don’t. But this did get me thinking about the spyware developed to listen in on people’s smart phone microphone without the owner being logged in. Especially by intelligence agencies, but who would be interested in a retire Santa Barbara faculty member. I will get on bitdefender’s

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Did you jailbreak your iPhone? Bob S > On Nov 8, 2017, at 02:25 , prothero--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > I wonder if any of journalists had this happen to you. > > Admittedly, I was laying sick in bed at the time. I clearly and distinctly > heard my iPhone

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread Erik Beugelaar via use-livecode
Bill, Usually my code look the same as this when I am awake from a hangover… ;-) Before I thought this was the best piece of code I’ve ever had written ( Cheers, Erik On 08/11/17 12:29, "use-livecode on behalf of prothero--- via use-livecode"

Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
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Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant

2017-11-08 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Folks, Autocorrect foiled me again! I meant to say: I wonder if any of you have had this happen to you? With hackers able to listen in on locked phones, I wonder. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org > On Nov 8, 2017, at 2:25 AM, prothero--- via use-livecode >