Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Do you have/use triggered breakpoints? It happened at one time that these 
breakpoints get sticky and clearing them didn't, actually. I was under the 
impression they fixed that, but it might have regressed. 

Bob S


> On Mar 25, 2019, at 13:56 , JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great!
> 
> i finally got time to test it, i can open the password protected stack by 
> another stack(standalone) without needing for the password
> 
> opening the stack with texteditor i see just scrambled txt
> 
> Nice!
> 
> Op 20-3-2019 om 18:07 schreef JJS via use-livecode:
>> Ok thank you Andy.
>> 
>> I will give that a try.
>> 
>> Op 20-3-2019 om 09:09 schreef AndyP via use-livecode:
>>> The password function protects the script of your stack files so that they
>>> are scrambled when viewed in a text editor or if they are opened in in the
>>> LC IDE a password is required before you are able to view or edit the stack
>>> files.
>>> 
>>> I just tried using the Standalone Application Settings option of "Encrypt
>>> with password" and in Indy 9.0.2 this only works if you the option to "Move
>>> substacks into individual stack files" is ticked.
>>> 
>>> A fail-safe way is  using the code below adjusted for your stack name and
>>> password, in the message box to protect your stacks.
>>> 
>>> set the password of stack "myStack" to "myPassword"
>>> 
>>> and save
>>> 
>>> if you need to remove the password you can use
>>> 
>>> set the password of stack "myStack" to empty
>>> 
>>> and save
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Andy Piddock
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>>> 
>>> TinyIDE  a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> finder.
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 3/26/19 9:06 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote:

I just tested and this problem(feature?) seems to have gone
away in v9.0.3. I tested with v8.1.10 and the problem was still there. The
message box displayed "put someHandler" and it also failed silently.


That's how it starts, the message box can't find what you're asking for 
and just repeats the command name. I haven't noticed the behavior is 
limited to password-protected stacks (mine aren't) but maybe you've 
found another trigger for the issue. It might at least be a lead.


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RE: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-26 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
The issue was accessing handlers in a password protected library stack from
the message box. I just tested and this problem(feature?) seems to have gone
away in v9.0.3. I tested with v8.1.10 and the problem was still there. The
message box displayed "put someHandler" and it also failed silently. So...
Sorry for the red-herring. Nothing to see here in v9.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 1:15 AM
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Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: password protected stack and passkey

It may have been the problem where the message box stops finding things. It
started in LC 9 for me and happened again today. The message box couldn't
find a handler in the only card that was open, then couldn't even find the
card. Keyboard shortcuts stopped working and "edit script of this card" did
nothing. When that sort of thing starts happening you're about to crash, and
two minutes later I did. There's no recipe except that debugging seems to
set it off.


The point being, maybe the fault wasn't that any features have changed but
rather something else got very confused.
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http://www.hyperactivesw.com On March 25, 2019 9:30:41 PM Richard Gaskin via
use-livecode  wrote:

> Ralph DiMola wrote:
>
> > FYI: If the stack is password protected(no line count in PB) you 
> > can't access any of the stack's handlers from the message box. I 
> > find this annoying but I guess it's safety mechanism. This changed 
> > in 8.x I think? In previous versions you could access handlers in a 
> > password protected stack from the message box.
>
> I can't reproduce that (just tested in v9.0.3), which is a good thing 
> because it would definitely be a bug.
>
> The Message Box is just a stack with scripts, not a compiled engine 
> component as with HC's Message Box.  If LC's Message Box can't call 
> routines in a password-protected stack, neither could anything else.
> That would break a lot of projects, and make protected libraries 
> instantly useless.
>
> What else might be going on with what you saw?  Got a recipe I can try?
>
> --
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>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web  
> 
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It may have been the problem where the message box stops finding things. It 
started in LC 9 for me and happened again today. The message box couldn't 
find a handler in the only card that was open, then couldn't even find the 
card. Keyboard shortcuts stopped working and "edit script of this card" did 
nothing. When that sort of thing starts happening you're about to crash, 
and two minutes later I did. There's no recipe except that debugging seems 
to set it off.



The point being, maybe the fault wasn't that any features have changed but 
rather something else got very confused.

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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
On March 25, 2019 9:30:41 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



Ralph DiMola wrote:

> FYI: If the stack is password protected(no line count in PB) you can't
> access any of the stack's handlers from the message box. I find this
> annoying but I guess it's safety mechanism. This changed in 8.x I
> think? In previous versions you could access handlers in a password
> protected stack from the message box.

I can't reproduce that (just tested in v9.0.3), which is a good thing
because it would definitely be a bug.

The Message Box is just a stack with scripts, not a compiled engine
component as with HC's Message Box.  If LC's Message Box can't call
routines in a password-protected stack, neither could anything else.
That would break a lot of projects, and make protected libraries
instantly useless.

What else might be going on with what you saw?  Got a recipe I can try?

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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Ralph DiMola wrote:

> FYI: If the stack is password protected(no line count in PB) you can't
> access any of the stack's handlers from the message box. I find this
> annoying but I guess it's safety mechanism. This changed in 8.x I
> think? In previous versions you could access handlers in a password
> protected stack from the message box.

I can't reproduce that (just tested in v9.0.3), which is a good thing 
because it would definitely be a bug.


The Message Box is just a stack with scripts, not a compiled engine 
component as with HC's Message Box.  If LC's Message Box can't call 
routines in a password-protected stack, neither could anything else. 
That would break a lot of projects, and make protected libraries 
instantly useless.


What else might be going on with what you saw?  Got a recipe I can try?

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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RE: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-25 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
FYI: If the stack is password protected(no line count in PB) you can't access 
any of the stack's handlers from the message box. I find this annoying but I 
guess it's safety mechanism. This changed in 8.x I think? In previous versions 
you could access handlers in a password protected stack from the message box.

Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
JJS via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 4:56 PM
To: JJS via use-livecode
Cc: JJS
Subject: Re: password protected stack and passkey

Great!

i finally got time to test it, i can open the password protected stack by 
another stack(standalone) without needing for the password

opening the stack with texteditor i see just scrambled txt

Nice!

Op 20-3-2019 om 18:07 schreef JJS via use-livecode:
> Ok thank you Andy.
>
> I will give that a try.
>
> Op 20-3-2019 om 09:09 schreef AndyP via use-livecode:
>> The password function protects the script of your stack files so that 
>> they are scrambled when viewed in a text editor or if they are opened 
>> in in the LC IDE a password is required before you are able to view 
>> or edit the stack files.
>>
>> I just tried using the Standalone Application Settings option of 
>> "Encrypt with password" and in Indy 9.0.2 this only works if you the 
>> option to "Move substacks into individual stack files" is ticked.
>>
>> A fail-safe way is  using the code below adjusted for your stack name 
>> and password, in the message box to protect your stacks.
>>
>> set the password of stack "myStack" to "myPassword"
>>
>> and save
>>
>> if you need to remove the password you can use
>>
>> set the password of stack "myStack" to empty
>>
>> and save
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Andy Piddock
>>
>>
>> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>>
>> TinyIDE  a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode
>>
>>
>> Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk
>>
>> PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour 
>> picker / finder.
>> http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
>> --
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-25 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Great!

i finally got time to test it, i can open the password protected stack 
by another stack(standalone) without needing for the password


opening the stack with texteditor i see just scrambled txt

Nice!

Op 20-3-2019 om 18:07 schreef JJS via use-livecode:

Ok thank you Andy.

I will give that a try.

Op 20-3-2019 om 09:09 schreef AndyP via use-livecode:
The password function protects the script of your stack files so that 
they
are scrambled when viewed in a text editor or if they are opened in 
in the
LC IDE a password is required before you are able to view or edit the 
stack

files.

I just tried using the Standalone Application Settings option of 
"Encrypt
with password" and in Indy 9.0.2 this only works if you the option to 
"Move

substacks into individual stack files" is ticked.

A fail-safe way is  using the code below adjusted for your stack name 
and

password, in the message box to protect your stacks.

set the password of stack "myStack" to "myPassword"

and save

if you need to remove the password you can use

set the password of stack "myStack" to empty

and save








-
Andy Piddock


My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.

TinyIDE  a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode


Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk

PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour 
picker / finder.

http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-20 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Ok thank you Andy.

I will give that a try.

Op 20-3-2019 om 09:09 schreef AndyP via use-livecode:

The password function protects the script of your stack files so that they
are scrambled when viewed in a text editor or if they are opened in in the
LC IDE a password is required before you are able to view or edit the stack
files.

I just tried using the Standalone Application Settings option of "Encrypt
with password" and in Indy 9.0.2 this only works if you the option to "Move
substacks into individual stack files" is ticked.

A fail-safe way is  using the code below adjusted for your stack name and
password, in the message box to protect your stacks.

set the password of stack "myStack" to "myPassword"

and save

if you need to remove the password you can use

set the password of stack "myStack" to empty

and save








-
Andy Piddock


My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.

TinyIDE  a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode


Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk

PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
finder.
http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-20 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
The password function protects the script of your stack files so that they
are scrambled when viewed in a text editor or if they are opened in in the
LC IDE a password is required before you are able to view or edit the stack
files.

I just tried using the Standalone Application Settings option of "Encrypt
with password" and in Indy 9.0.2 this only works if you the option to "Move
substacks into individual stack files" is ticked.

A fail-safe way is  using the code below adjusted for your stack name and
password, in the message box to protect your stacks.

set the password of stack "myStack" to "myPassword"

and save

if you need to remove the password you can use

set the password of stack "myStack" to empty

and save








-
Andy Piddock 


My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. 

TinyIDE  a Free alternative minimalist IDE Plugin for LiveCode 


Script editor Themer for LC http://2108.co.uk  

PointandSee is a FREE simple but full featured under cursor colour picker / 
finder.
http://www.pointandsee.co.uk  - made with LiveCode
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Re: password protected stack and passkey

2019-03-19 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
Perhaps you are using the community server?

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 12:01 JJS via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> HI,
>
>
> i don't fully understand the password protection on how it functions in
> Indy.
>
> If i add a password and save the stack, unload it from memory. Then
> reload it again, nothing happens and i can see all scripts.
>
>
> If i put the password protected stack on a server, then load it with a
> splash program.
>
> Then If i set the passkey or not in the splash program, it just loads it
> and runs it.
>
>
> So how should work? The dictionary does not make it clearer for me.
>
>
> Should the IDE not ask me for a password? after reload i can see the
> password in the standalone settings.
>
> Should the splah program not run it if no passkey has been set?
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jerry
>
>
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