Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Talluto
On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:11 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 4/24/12 10:08 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > >> However, I'd agree with Richard Gaskin's post that a feature limited >> demo is generally a better marketing approach than a time limited demo. > > I think so too. Or even just make the program slig

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yeah CCC has saved my buttocks a few times, and I use it a lot, so I "donated" a few times already. Bob On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:23 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:11 AM, J. Landman Gay > wrote: > >> Graphic Converter does that and its author has been supporting himself for >>

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
My approach to buying shareware is if I try something and it helps me do something I need to do, I go buy it, even if I do not need to do that thing again. It's a matter of integrity to me. I think there are a lot of people like that, but I know there are also a lot of other people who think if

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:11 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Graphic Converter does that and its author has been supporting himself for > years with it, it's hugely popular. It isn't limited in any way. > > I don't know that Mike Bombich supports himself off the 'donations' to Carbon Copy Cloner, but

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-25 Thread Bill Vlahos
Richmond, I don't know what your program does but if it allows the user to store data you could embed the timestamp in the data. This is what I do with InfoWallet. The program InfoWallet itself isn't really timestamped but data files it creates are. When the datafile is created it gets a date

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 9:11:08 AM, you wrote: > I think so too. Or even just make the program slightly annoying during > launch. Graphic Converter does that and its author has been supporting > himself for years with it, it's hugely popular. It isn't limited in any > way. He just insert

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-25 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, OK, so we wandered off the subject just a little ! Jecqueline wrote, talking about Graphic Converter : He just inserts a 10 second wait after every launch before the program becomes useable. Like most people, I used the free version for a couple of years until th

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-25 Thread Tim Jones
On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: > I agree with the others though, I despise time limited apps because I never > have 30 days to test them, I only have a day here and a day there and I spend > half of it recapping what I learnt before. Maybe the proper solution is a number of uses,

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:11 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > He just inserts a 10 second wait after every launch before the program > becomes useable. Like most people, I used the free version for a couple of > years until the ten seconds got so annoying I paid up. I've been paying for > updates ever

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread Richmond
On 04/24/2012 07:11 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 4/24/12 10:08 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: However, I'd agree with Richard Gaskin's post that a feature limited demo is generally a better marketing approach than a time limited demo. I think so too. Or even just make the program slightly annoying du

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 4/24/12 10:08 AM, Paul Dupuis wrote: However, I'd agree with Richard Gaskin's post that a feature limited demo is generally a better marketing approach than a time limited demo. I think so too. Or even just make the program slightly annoying during launch. Graphic Converter does that and i

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 4/24/2012 8:36 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 24/04/12 04:04, Kay C Lan wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, >> Richmondwrote: >> >>> Blast! I am trying to find a way so that I don't have a file "floating >>> about" on somebody's system that they can just flush away to >>> reset the 30 day limit

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread Peter Haworth
Hi Richmond, I just went through this same thought process. I have a 30 day and functionality limits in my product but finally accepted that it's impossible to make them foolproof. In my case, I.m selling a $25 product so it doesn't make sense to spend huge amounts of time to foil the efforts of a

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: Blast! I am trying to find a way so that I don't have a file "floating about" on somebody's system that they can just flush away to reset the 30 day limit on my DEMO. Have you considered a non-expiring feature-limited demo instead? Time-limited trials not only are they harder t

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-24 Thread Richmond
On 24/04/12 04:04, Kay C Lan wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Richmondwrote: Blast! I am trying to find a way so that I don't have a file "floating about" on somebody's system that they can just flush away to reset the 30 day limit on my DEMO. I'm assuming then you must have some sort

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Kay C Lan
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Richmond wrote: > > Blast! I am trying to find a way so that I don't have a file "floating > about" on somebody's system that they can just flush away to > reset the 30 day limit on my DEMO. > I'm assuming then you must have some sort of licensing system for those

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Francis, Using software that keeps a list of all existing files, it is easy to find newly created files. This way, it is very easy to find preferences files and "secret" license files. On the other hand, I believe that only very few people actually do this. Most people just delete the softw

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs

2012-04-23 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Richmond wrote : Blast! I am trying to find a way so that I don't have a file "floating about" on somebody's system that they can just flush away to reset the 30 day limit on my DEMO. Richmond, forgive me if I am being obtuse, but I don't see the problem. Create a

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs via substacks?

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
In the clouds, baby! That presupposes that my target demographic are all connected, permanently, to the internet; and they are not. Richmond, The best way to go is to call the DAZE30 function from your standalone and compare it with a TSTAMP reference stored on the cloud so your customers w

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
On 04/23/2012 12:30 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Yes, it will. I would use a time limitation using a separate file together with a functional limitation, e.g. the inability to save documents. Actually, I rarely use time limitations for my own products, because I believe that every time a u

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Yes, it will. I would use a time limitation using a separate file together with a functional limitation, e.g. the inability to save documents. Actually, I rarely use time limitations for my own products, because I believe that every time a user starts up your software is a potential sale.

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
On 04/23/2012 11:37 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richmond, Standalones can't write to themselves and thus your standalone can't save anything in a substack. You can create a separate stack file in a different folder, e.g. application data on Windows, Preferences on Mac OS X and the Home fol

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs via substacks?

2012-04-23 Thread Pierre Sahores
Richmond, The best way to go is to call the DAZE30 function from your standalone and compare it with a TSTAMP reference stored on the cloud so your customers won't find any local file to delete to get a way to bypass your 30 days try-period key. HTH, Le 23 avr. 2012 à 10:31, Richmond a écrit

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
On 04/23/2012 11:37 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richmond, Standalones can't write to themselves and thus your standalone can't save anything in a substack. You can create a separate stack file in a different folder, e.g. application data on Windows, Preferences on Mac OS X and the Home fol

Re: Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Richmond, Standalones can't write to themselves and thus your standalone can't save anything in a substack. You can create a separate stack file in a different folder, e.g. application data on Windows, Preferences on Mac OS X and the Home folder on Linux and save time stamp in that stack fil

Time-Stamping Demo programs #2

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
Um: --30 Day code-- if the fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" is empty then set the lockScreen to true put the seconds into into fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" save stack "STAMP" set the lockScreen to false end if put the seconds into DAZE30 put fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" into TSTAMP if D

Time-Stamping Demo programs via substacks?

2012-04-23 Thread Richmond
Um: --30 Day code-- if the fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" is empty then set the lockScreen to true put the seconds into into fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" save stack "STAMP" set the lockScreen to false end if put the seconds into DAZE30 put fld "STAMP" of stack "STAMP" into TSTAMP if D