Re: Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-26 Thread Paul Dupuis via use-livecode

On 10/25/2019 8:35 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
After installing LC 9.5 on macOS "Catalina", when I run it I get a 
system alert I've never seen before:


 "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0" wants access to
 control "System Events". Allowing control
 will provide access to documents and data
 in "System Events", and to perform actions
 within that app."

What fresh hell is this?  Is this something all of our users will be 
seeing?


I'm guessing (because there's not much in that text for actually 
knowing) that this occurs with some Apple event and/or AppleScript use 
- is that correct?


Anyone know how to never see that weird thing again? (Other than just 
clicking "OK", which users will do but is never a good idea unless 
they fully understand the implications, which I don't believe is 
possible in this case given the vague wording).




I have not seen that one, but I have seen one-time permission dialogs 
for (a) Internet access and (b) writing to the user's "Documents" folder 
for a properly CODE SIGNED 9.0.5 standalone under Catalina.


I assumed it was like iOS permissions and probably LC will need to add 
to the OSX standalone setting tab a list of permissions you have to 
check off for your app, but I have not taken the time to research what 
needs to be done to prevent such warnings.


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Re: Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

True, but only because you can't give Apple its cut unless the app is signed.
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On October 25, 2019 8:38:13 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



hh wrote:

> The new security hystery will surprise you every few
> minutes when you really work on that OS.

Let me guess: If I give 30% of my income to Apple then all those nasty
warnings in my apps just go away.

#shakedown

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Re: Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

hh wrote:

> The new security hystery will surprise you every few
> minutes when you really work on that OS.

Let me guess: If I give 30% of my income to Apple then all those nasty 
warnings in my apps just go away.


#shakedown

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 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-25 Thread hh via use-livecode
> What fresh hell is this?  Is this something all of our
> users will be seeing?

Yes. But this is only the camp fire before the hell.

The new security hystery will surprise you every few
minutes when you really work on that OS.


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Re: Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Thanks, Jacque.

Looking into this more deeply I believe it's not triggered by LC itself, 
but by a companion app my client has written.


I'll suggest they sign that to make that abstract annoyance go away.

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Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote:


Weird macOS error dialog
J. Landman Gay jacque at hyperactivesw.com
Fri Oct 25 20:57:25 EDT 2019

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It isn't new but apparently it changed a little in Mojave.

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/335848/mojave-disable-or-control-the-some-app-name-wants-access-to-control-another
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On October 25, 2019 7:37:35 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
 wrote:



After installing LC 9.5 on macOS "Catalina", when I run it I get a
system alert I've never seen before:

 "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0" wants access to
 control "System Events". Allowing control
 will provide access to documents and data
 in "System Events", and to perform actions
 within that app."

What fresh hell is this?  Is this something all of our users will be seeing?

I'm guessing (because there's not much in that text for actually
knowing) that this occurs with some Apple event and/or AppleScript use -
is that correct?

Anyone know how to never see that weird thing again? (Other than just
clicking "OK", which users will do but is never a good idea unless they
fully understand the implications, which I don't believe is possible in
this case given the vague wording).

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems



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Weird macOS error dialog

2019-10-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
After installing LC 9.5 on macOS "Catalina", when I run it I get a 
system alert I've never seen before:


 "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0" wants access to
 control "System Events". Allowing control
 will provide access to documents and data
 in "System Events", and to perform actions
 within that app."

What fresh hell is this?  Is this something all of our users will be seeing?

I'm guessing (because there's not much in that text for actually 
knowing) that this occurs with some Apple event and/or AppleScript use - 
is that correct?


Anyone know how to never see that weird thing again? (Other than just 
clicking "OK", which users will do but is never a good idea unless they 
fully understand the implications, which I don't believe is possible in 
this case given the vague wording).


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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